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Post# 524827   6/16/2011 at 11:08 (4,691 days old) by desecratecub ()        

Hi everyone. =)

To be honest, I really don't understand the fascination and passion everyone here has with washing machines and vintage appliances.

I'm here to try understand it all. The man I've fallen for - yes, he is a member of this site - has the fascination for all things appliances. I want to understand that part of his world. Who knows, I might even get into it myself!

I figure asking everyone what it is about the machines they're into that fascinates and enthralls you might help me understand what it's all about...

So...

What about the washing machines, cycles, detergents and everything else that goes along with it fascinates you? What brought about the fascination?

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks muchly!

Matt
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Post# 524853 , Reply# 1   6/16/2011 at 12:34 (4,691 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
You are kind to ask about this Matt

It seems to be a fascination one is born with. It has to do with motion, watching repetitive motion, water motion & play, repetitive sounds/rhythms, light, appreciation of both brute and harnessed power and other things and how they impact our brains. I don't ever remember not being attracted to large pieces of equipment. I love the motion of the driving and connecting rods in steam locomotives as well as the steam, the fire, the sounds and the way it all works to make the engine move. It is said that late 19th and all 20th century composers were influenced by the rhythm of trains; it's discernable in the "beat" of the music. I guess before that it was the sounds of horses hooves, so sound affects all who are open to perceiving it whether you are composing music, tuning an automobile or musical instrument or using an appliance. There is an interrelatedness to all of this stimuli. Operating a dishwasher, a clothes washer or using a coffeemaker or a pressure cooker are different yet related in certain ways and I guess it would be rooted in manipulating energy: heat, water and electricity. Maybe this is also present in playing or listening to a pipe organ with an awareness of all of the mechanics and power involved. I love watching You Tube videos of organs being played and with tracker instruments, the coupling action is fascinating.

So mechanics, mechanisms, machinery, using them, controlling them, watching and listening to them, using a male's instinct for analysis to figure out how to modify them like Tim The Toolman Taylor on Home Improvement (a TV show) to get more power out of them or make them work more efficiently figures into this also. Car entusiasts do this also; it's just a more common interest.

There is the appeal of certain types of styling; certain brands of appliances just never had the styling of others. This goes for major appliances as well as small appliances. There is no confusing Sunbeam, Westinghouse and Presto small electrics from the golden age of the 50s into the 60s. Even as a young child vaccuum coffeemakers caught my eye, just the shape, before I even knew how they operated.

You are to be commended for wanting to try to understand and share. Maybe through love you can come to share an appreciation for machinery if not the affection. One thing is for sure, you will hear about appliances constantly and if a fellow appliance lover comes to visit you can either listen and hope to learn or just give up and leave, but finding someone with whom to discuss equipment is such a treat it precludes the discussion of much else. It is not much different than car buffs or electronics geeks talking; it can be a foreign language to those outside the circle.It is not meant to exclude you or devalue you as a person or partner. It just happens.

If you can share a love for things your partner loves and vice versa, if you have ever enjoyed cooking or doing laundry or using any type of mechanical equipment, if you have enjoyed going to estate sales, flea markets, "junque" and second hand stores, if you appreciate certain elements of style like Streamline, Machine Age, Art Deco, Modern, if you like to clean and restore things to their original beauty, there are grounds for your development into a wonderful partner who will be able to work & play with the man you love and be able to validate his interests to others. You can be an extra pair of eyes spotting things, too.

You have not told us of your interests. What are they? What can he learn from your interests to bring enrichment to his life in exchange for all you are attempting to learn about his interests? Are there shared interests that can form a bridge between his major interests and yours? You probably did not meet while looking at appliances or at a convention of washer collectors. Best wishes to you both.


Post# 524862 , Reply# 2   6/16/2011 at 13:01 (4,691 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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I agree.  It's an interest and for some a fascination with mechanical devices and contraptions and understanding how they work, the logic behind their design, as well as the aesthetics of their industrial design with regard to exterior treatments.

 

Not everyone can be expected to share this interest.  There are people who love opera and/or Broadway musicals.  I can't stand either of them.

 

I think it's wonderful that you want to be able to relate to your special man's fascination with vintage machinery, but you shouldn't be expected to develop his same level of interest.  No doubt you have interests that he doesn't share, but both of you can learn from each other. 

 

Good luck and best wishes for long term happiness.

 

Ralph


Post# 524871 , Reply# 3   6/16/2011 at 13:18 (4,691 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

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Welcome. Here's a recent discussion of the same thing:

CLICK HERE TO GO TO arbilab's LINK


Post# 524886 , Reply# 4   6/16/2011 at 14:20 (4,691 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
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It doesn't matter whether your guy likes wash machines or whatnot. Kindly take an interest in a few of his hobbies, also share a few of yours with him. Hopefully he'll find some of your habits/hobbies are pretty fun too.
With me, it's a joy of tinkering, repairing/restoring, and my boyfriend doesn't mind that I am happy to do ALL the laundry for both of us. The older machines are also nostalgic, what Mom used and such. Pretty harmless hobby, I think.


Post# 524902 , Reply# 5   6/16/2011 at 15:04 (4,691 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
Hmm,

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I can't speak for anyone else here, but I experience deep satisfaction in good machinery and good design.

And PANK! Definitely, PANK!


Post# 524938 , Reply# 6   6/16/2011 at 16:35 (4,691 days old) by randycmaynard ()        
Yes definitely good, well built machinery........

I think that's part of it all for me. The vintage appliances, for the most part, are well built and there was much pride taken in the building of them by the companies and their personnel who designed and built them - even the ones that didn't hold up as well were still far, far, far better in quality and build than anything made today and those great vintage machines were made, again with pride, in there respective countries - the US, UK, Canada, Australia etc. The machines were and are fasinating to watch as they were in operation plus that nagging desire to get inside them and see how they worked.

Someone above mentioned the pipe organ - same thing tends to apply..... I am an organist and I've worked on them behind the scenes where the pipework is, tuning and repair etc and it is just as much a fascination and love and very much akin to what our passions are about the vintage appliances. I'm also a rep for a pipe organ company as well so the passions are well established and I think too that many who have a love for vintage anything tend to "live in the past" to some extent for lack of a better way to put it - for example I prefer traditional home decor, traditional home/house designs, traditional church, traditional church buildings and architecture..... even vintage Christmas ornaments - bring on the Shiny Brite!! You get the idea..... just the way we are wired and I like it this way very much and wouldn't change a thing. Hope all works out for you and yours!!


Post# 524948 , Reply# 7   6/16/2011 at 17:49 (4,691 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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I like seeing the foam splash in many different patterns against the glass windows as well as seeing the movement of the pieces in the cylinders.I remember seeing the first FRIGIDAIRE washer when I was 4 years old at my Aunty's house and she put my teddy bear in and told me to watch it do summersults.That did it for me.I've been fascinated ever since and broadened my interests into a more balanced method by investigating other appliances like dishwashers,electric ranges,blenders,vacuum cleaners,floor care products and small appliances.I NEVER allowed anyone,including my parents,family and lovers to even attempt to change my interests.I also met younger kids with the same interests/fascinations who's parents were either embaresed or ashamed of their child's "weirdness" and taught them how to let it be. All of them are now grown up and have great careers in the appliance industry.

Post# 525009 , Reply# 8   6/17/2011 at 01:36 (4,690 days old) by desecratecub ()        
Thanks! :)

Thanks everyone for your responses. =)

Tomturbomatic - My major interests are already shared with him. Aside from wanting to be able to understand his excitement when he talks about washing machines (twintubs specifically - I'm learning, yay!) I wanted to understand because he already understands mine. I'm a musician. I sing / play guitar (+ most other instruments) and he has a passion for music that rivals mine. =)

Ralph - I don't expect or think I *could* develop his level of interest. I'm just fascinated by his fascination, and really just want to be able to understand it all. =)

Arbilab - thanks for link. =)

Akron - I've been told the same thing by matt. Apparenlty I'll never have to do washing again. haha.





Post# 525014 , Reply# 9   6/17/2011 at 02:44 (4,690 days old) by mixfinder ()        
Sililoquy

Tom is a hero to me and so many others because he has the ability to organize and memorize like a savant.  He is extremely well read, an intellectual, working in the Library of Congress.  He enjoys appliances like an engineer would repairing, haywiring and inventing whatever it takes tofind out what makes them tick.  Tom runs a tight ship, things are organized and in order and not even Mother Nature dares to stand in his way.  He can cook, sew a tad, clean and entertain in ways that make Martha Stewart flush with envy.  The truly amazing part is that a soft and tender heart, a discerning spirit and foracious friend co exist within this computerized human genius. To answer your question his words say it far better than I ever could.  As a fat kid who sucked at sports, liked to visit with ladies and would rather cook than breathe I was always hazed, bullied and even beaten by my father who wanted to make a man of me.  I can't say what instilled the spiritual call of appliances but I certainly got chastised for asking to see people's mixer or ask what kind of washing machine they had.  There was no place on the planet of the earth where I fit, where I could take off my iron collar and had to make a concious effort to try to act like a "man".  It was here in this club, this amazing place filled with fantasies beyond my wildest imagination could have never conjured.  I can revel in the nuance, smell, tint, clunk and hiss of every machine I have ever touched and it is all glorified and amplified within the group.  I have traveled all over the country to meet members and my heart aches to return and hungers to meet the ones that have spoken to my heart.  I might need to get a bus and paint the side with Appliance Camp Meeting and become an Appliavengelist zooming from one place to next to meet everyone and see their collections.  It beats in my veins and pulses out my fingertips.  My wife was furious with my collecting and for several years I legitimized it with a second hand outlet.  Now, six years into a new relationship, Peter seems to think its completely normal to have 30 mixers, 5 washers and 9 ranges in those 6 years.  Patrick invited us to spend three days with them and both Patrick and I who have water cooled jaw muscles to keep our tongues from flaming worried how our stoic husbands would do.  It was pure bliss!!  We will see each other again and both guys look at each other and shrug when we're fussing over belt drive, direct drive and fluid drive.  Now the new normal is living without fear, without hiding, doing the dance of joy when a new appliance shows up and most of all it is these men who show up everyday to support me, laugh with me, give me advice and slap my lala when I get too full of myself.  This has become my heaven on earth and appliances have now become machines that do housework that are the conduit to every expanding joy.  I have learned if anything causes me to bristle with Peter, in that moment in love and a cool head we discuss it.  I state clearly what I need and never expect him to be a mind reader.  And the real truth is that there is nothing in the world, not one thing worth arguing over as long as I am with the one who adores me and gave me the greatest gift of all, love.


Post# 525024 , Reply# 10   6/17/2011 at 04:41 (4,690 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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Hey, i'm Matts partner, he has really been trying to get into the grips of why i have such a love for laundry and everything to do with it. I told him to get on here and ask others for their stories, I can only explain from one mans perspective. We are about to move in together and we have been choosing appliances and I found an Electrolux on special, 8kg, 1400rpm, Time Manager, perfect at the right price which it was. Took a while to get Matt to understand I guess why these things are important to me.

I'm proud of him for coming on here and trying to find out more about the fascination, makes me feel like hes meant to be with me if hes willing to really try and understand how I 'tick'.

Gotta love love lol.


Post# 525028 , Reply# 11   6/17/2011 at 06:03 (4,690 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Kelly is too kind, but he did bring up a memory of how I got into trouble by asking my first grade teachers, both of them, what kind of washing machines they had. The first one lived down the street from us and answered me that she had a Maytag. Another neighbor had an AMP and even at 6 years of age, it was incongruous to me that anyone would want a washing machine that would not let you watch it operate. I did not say any of that to my teacher. I probably would have been institutionalized for that. I was thinking the other day about our old neighborhood and I remembered sometime in the early 60s when that Maytag appeared on the curb in front of my old teacher's house at the time they got a new GE. The other one was unmarried and did not have a washer at all! That was amazing to me, but my asking must have amazed her more because she told my parents about it and did I catch hell after that conference.

This was kind of made up for by the nice people Heaven sent into my miserable life who would let me ask about their appliances and let me watch them operate. I tried to keep all of that from my parents. Meeting John and Jeff in 1981 opened a new world for me. Even my brother was impressed that other people shared my interest which had been a family embarrassment. Having people to validate you and your interests makes a big difference in your life, especially when it is an exotic interest and not something like sports or racing and the other stuff that was popular. Science, almost all the fields, was another refuge as was reading and music. I prefer to think that I survived growing up, not without scars, but I survived.


Post# 525275 , Reply# 12   6/18/2011 at 07:57 (4,689 days old) by reversomatic (east anglia,england,u.k.)        
something for you both

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Congrats to you both.Music and washers can go together ,there have been some great pop videos featuring washers.My all time favourite is Robin S. Love 4 Love.I dont know how to do links but found the video on a site called Video Detective and another favourite is Z Z Top,Rough boy.There are probably many more .I seem to remember a wall of washers in the video for Vic and Bobs.Dizy but cant find a video of it ,also an unknown washer in David Bowies Ashes To Ashes.How sad am i? But there you have it, music and washers can combine.There must be many more and i cant help but think of Laundromats when hear I heard it through the grapevine.In fact it could be a whole new thread.And enjoy your new washer.Regards Nige.

Post# 526079 , Reply# 13   6/21/2011 at 16:15 (4,686 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
appliances in music videos

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Nigel,

The ashes to ashes machine was an Indesit 099 or some ilk of that model.
I knew I wasnt going mad about the Vic Reeves and The Wonderstuff thankgod!

Others I can think of are,

The Beautiful Souths video for "a little time" Hotpoint 18361.

moving onto vacs

Kirby Classic III in Holly Johnsons "Americano's"
The shake n Vac Hoover "Senior Ranger" in Beautiful Souths "Dont Marry Her"
Hoover Turbopower U2194 in Spaces "you and me vs the world"
and finally good old Freddie.......



Post# 526159 , Reply# 14   6/22/2011 at 00:40 (4,685 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

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Post# 526171 , Reply# 15   6/22/2011 at 03:14 (4,685 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Welcome to the site Matt.   alr2903



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