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Post# 533540   7/28/2011 at 20:29 (4,626 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        

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Being we went over 200 postings and per request I am starting a new thread
I hope we can go up to 200 posts again
We will start with a 1958 wizard!





Post# 533543 , Reply# 1   7/28/2011 at 20:54 (4,626 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
A interesting one!

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Heart shaped??

Post# 533545 , Reply# 2   7/28/2011 at 21:03 (4,626 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
A interesting one

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Another picture from above!

Post# 533551 , Reply# 3   7/28/2011 at 22:05 (4,626 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Sears

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1957!



Post# 533553 , Reply# 4   7/28/2011 at 22:06 (4,626 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Brown

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1967!



Post# 533582 , Reply# 5   7/29/2011 at 06:59 (4,626 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Brown !

Is still made in Cleveland Tenn, and is the only family owned range manufacturer left!

Post# 533599 , Reply# 6   7/29/2011 at 08:49 (4,626 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Brown!

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Yes also sold under the Summit name.

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Post# 533600 , Reply# 7   7/29/2011 at 09:04 (4,626 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Thermador!

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This was probably the next series from when they added a window. These Gems were in the previous postings.

Post# 533636 , Reply# 8   7/29/2011 at 16:16 (4,626 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Thermador

I found this same oven at the Habitat store and for 5 dollars bought it, It is now in the wall at a good friends house who had a worn out Westinghouse, They love it!

Post# 533666 , Reply# 9   7/29/2011 at 21:29 (4,625 days old) by westie2 ()        

My grandmother that had the Westinghouse Laundrymat had a Brown stove it was a great stove the simmer burners were the best to her at that time.  After selling her general store she took a part time job as a cook at a resturant and sid her Brown was a better stove than the ones qt the resturant.

 

The Brown was a 30" and was the Coppertone.


Post# 533679 , Reply# 10   7/30/2011 at 00:18 (4,625 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Here's a range model that was quite popular in Canada in the sixties/seventies, they were made with minimal changes over a long period of time. I have seen very similar Enterprise ranges (larger 40" models) with a wood stove on their side and other ones with a combined oil furnace. This one is from 1974 but I have seen some older ones from 1967, 1971 and 1972 that were identical (or almost).

Some 40" models were combined wood/electric or oil heaters  (see the link).

 

 



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Post# 533680 , Reply# 11   7/30/2011 at 00:25 (4,625 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Here's a matching oil heater for the range above.


Post# 533681 , Reply# 12   7/30/2011 at 00:27 (4,625 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Or a wood heater.


Post# 533684 , Reply# 13   7/30/2011 at 01:19 (4,625 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Here's an ad with different ranges from Enterprise from 1966 (I think they got redesigned with two burner controls on each side the following year).

 

As I see this picture, I'm thinking about something else. Here in Canada, there seems to be very few ranges from the late fifties or newer that don't have a glass in their oven's door.  From the pictures I have seen on the net, it seems much more common to have a door without a glass on 1960's and even 1970's ovens in the US than it is here. Am I right?  Also, timed convenience outlets were still seen on most ranges here until a few years ago. I don't know if they have been banned here too or if manufacturers just stopped offering them.




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Post# 533692 , Reply# 14   7/30/2011 at 06:41 (4,625 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Enterprise...

This is VERY interesting! There was also a range made in the us called Enterprise, it was what we call a "Off brand" meaning it was a lesser known product than say GE,lots of them were used in new construction in the 60s, very similar to Modern Maid, both being made in Tennessee...The Canadian Enterprise looks good!

Post# 533693 , Reply# 15   7/30/2011 at 06:49 (4,625 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Here is!

The 52 Okeefe and Merrit Hi Vue range I have...Someone needs this!

Post# 533700 , Reply# 16   7/30/2011 at 08:25 (4,625 days old) by 58limited (Port Arthur, Texas)        
1956 Tappan Greenbriar - $25.00 in New York State

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Found this on ebay, looks like a nice stove but there is only one picture, no close-ups. Located in Larchmont, NY.

 

 



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Post# 533708 , Reply# 17   7/30/2011 at 09:45 (4,625 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)        

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I believe that the Consumer Product Safety Commission in the US mandated that plugs no longer be offered in stoves for sale in the US because of the danger of dangling cords in about 1970. They're still widely available in Canada. That Enterprise stove is interesting looking...what company made it? GSW? It appears to have quite an appealing industrial design (slightly different than GE/Frigidaire/Westinghouse) but still better designed than the off-brand range manufacturers which aren't quite in the same league for design...essentially it looks like someone actually looked at the design and cared. I think that some of the electric stoves in Canada currently made are really better looking and more functional than some of the ones we have here (the ones with the stacked burner controls at each end, with outlets). If I were in the market for a stove, I'd probably drive to Windsor to get something interesting.

Post# 533722 , Reply# 18   7/30/2011 at 10:23 (4,625 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Enterprise Range!

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That is one awsome range series. The styling is really nice. Their was a lot of ranges in the USA in the 60s and 70s with windows. At times the lower end models didnt have them. On a lot of the upper end models that had self cleaning ovens the window was absent on earlier models because the glass wasnt made strong enough to endure the heat. When improvements were made many models featured windows.
I do miss the electric plug connections on the ranges. I never knew the exact reason as to why they stopped making them but I had heard it was some type of safty issue. If it was due to a dangingling cord many were positioned in back where the cord couldnt dangle.
Also did these enterprise ranges come out with self cleaning or continous cleaning ovens at a later time?
Thanks,
Peter


Post# 533730 , Reply# 19   7/30/2011 at 11:36 (4,625 days old) by westie2 ()        

Peter

 

I think that the cord on the electrical apliances were in the same year the outlets on the stove were removed  to be much shorted than before so they would not dangle over a counter top.  I renenber that you could buy a 48 to 60 inch cord to a coffee maker or a waffle iron, or an electric skillt or pan.  Since the early to mid 70's have been the short cords.  Have a second cousin who did this withh  log cord that came off my cousins counter.  She was burnt by the shock and had to have sone plastic surgery.  Lucky for her the breaker tripped.


Post# 533738 , Reply# 20   7/30/2011 at 13:20 (4,625 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Jamie,

I think Enterprise was an independent company, The Enterprise Foundry, in New Brunswick. I think the company still exists but they don't make electric ranges anymore.

 

Peter,

I have never seen a self-cleaning Enterprise range but many were clean-free (including this one).

 

My aunt had a 3 years older Enterprise clean free oven from 1971 with a full glass door and wood grain trim on the lower drawer. It's one of the first appliances I have worked on when I was a kid!


Post# 533752 , Reply# 21   7/30/2011 at 14:11 (4,625 days old) by mixfinder ()        
Cousins

There must be a connection with Enterprise and the US brand Monarch. The style and functions is identical to Monarchs of the 60's.

Post# 533763 , Reply# 22   7/30/2011 at 14:39 (4,625 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Please!

Anyone who has them, post more pics of Canadian built ranges, like the vacuums made there, they are interesting!

Post# 533779 , Reply# 23   7/30/2011 at 16:29 (4,625 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
clean free oven

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I assume by clean free you mean continious cleaning - am I right?
Also some ranges had panels that slide out to clean which I think was a really good idea. Their was a lot of people against continous cleaning ovens, but I did like them if used properly. I think they should have improved the concept instead of removing it off the market!


Post# 533853 , Reply# 24   7/30/2011 at 22:46 (4,624 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)        
kind of unusual...

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...electric & wood burning Monarch range currently on ebay (Colorado) for $400

Post# 533854 , Reply# 25   7/30/2011 at 22:46 (4,624 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        
Nice GE Range on SF Bay Area CL

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Post# 533855 , Reply# 26   7/30/2011 at 22:49 (4,624 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Piano keys

 

 


Post# 534013 , Reply# 27   7/31/2011 at 12:37 (4,624 days old) by retropia ()        
GE Ranges

Here are a few pages from a manual titled "How to use and enjoy your new General Electric Automatic Electric Range."


Post# 534014 , Reply# 28   7/31/2011 at 12:39 (4,624 days old) by retropia ()        

I'm guessing these are early 1950s models?


Post# 534015 , Reply# 29   7/31/2011 at 12:40 (4,624 days old) by retropia ()        

It's interesting that several ranges have aviation-themed model names.


Post# 534016 , Reply# 30   7/31/2011 at 12:42 (4,624 days old) by retropia ()        

These are the top-of-the-line in the freestanding models.


Post# 534017 , Reply# 31   7/31/2011 at 12:44 (4,624 days old) by retropia ()        

Built-in oven and cooktop.


Post# 534087 , Reply# 32   7/31/2011 at 14:31 (4,624 days old) by drmitch ()        

Retopia, thanks for posting those! Mine looks like the J405 Speedster.

Post# 534099 , Reply# 33   7/31/2011 at 15:51 (4,624 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
My..

61 GE, its about time for this to go, I dont like the divided units.

Post# 534109 , Reply# 34   7/31/2011 at 16:47 (4,624 days old) by paulg (My sweet home... Chicago)        
Another Custom Trend picture

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A better pix i hope.. Sorry for the clutter.

Post# 534110 , Reply# 35   7/31/2011 at 16:54 (4,624 days old) by paulg (My sweet home... Chicago)        
TAPPAN Electronic 1961

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A very early built-in microwave. I even have the bill-of-sale. $1500 in 1961. Destined for a museum.
It has a water pump and radiator. Must fill with antifreeze before using.
Although complete, It'll be a showpiece only.
The TAPPAN logo below the door is actually a drawer with recipe cards. Unit is equipped with a browner.


Post# 534116 , Reply# 36   7/31/2011 at 17:12 (4,623 days old) by xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania )        

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here is a 1947 Western Holly with awesome porthole windows


Post# 534119 , Reply# 37   7/31/2011 at 17:14 (4,623 days old) by xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania )        

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here is an 8 burner 1925 Reliable with 3 ovens, broiler and 2 warming compartments


Post# 534120 , Reply# 38   7/31/2011 at 17:16 (4,623 days old) by xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania )        

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turquoise 59 General Electric. I'd be happier than a pig in shit if I could find me one in turquoise


Post# 534122 , Reply# 39   7/31/2011 at 17:33 (4,623 days old) by moparguy (Virginia)        

Sam that's a beautiful stove... I think of them as the Jetsons model because they look like that's where they came from... the one in the photo is a later model, with the window and with the glass control panel... the earlier ones had the stamped control panel, and many had an optional nickel/chrome companion oven door... I see them around periodically, but usually white or pink (I have a pink one), sometimes but less frequently the turquoise and the yellow... I agree it would be quite a catch, lol...


Post# 534123 , Reply# 40   7/31/2011 at 17:34 (4,623 days old) by moparguy (Virginia)        

I think "earlier" by the way is only a couple of years older than the one that you posted, I think mine is a 1957, which I think is the first year.

Post# 534160 , Reply# 41   7/31/2011 at 21:56 (4,623 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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 "I assume by clean free you mean continious cleaning - am I right?

Also some ranges had panels that slide out to clean which I think was a really good idea. Their was a lot of people against continous cleaning ovens, but I did like them if used properly. I think they should have improved the concept instead of removing it off the market!"
Peter,
This range has removable panels that are supposed not to require cleaning (but they can be removed if they do need it...)


Post# 534172 , Reply# 42   7/31/2011 at 22:29 (4,623 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Enterprise Ranges!

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Phil this does look like a continous cleaning surface inside this range. Don't seem like the panels are removeable but the top of the oven does look like it may slide out. I like the fact that their looks to be a lot of adjustable rack positions. It is possible the baking and broiling elements May be removeable.
Thanks for posting,
Peter



Post# 534173 , Reply# 43   7/31/2011 at 22:36 (4,623 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Tappan wall micro!

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I would like to see the specs on that wall oven microwave in post 534110!



Post# 534176 , Reply# 44   7/31/2011 at 22:40 (4,623 days old) by 58limited (Port Arthur, Texas)        
I would like to see the specs on that wall oven microwave in

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Me too! I didn't know they were liquid cooled.  Where did you find it?

 

 


Post# 534179 , Reply# 45   7/31/2011 at 23:00 (4,623 days old) by 54monroe ()        
1939 Magic Chef

1939 Magic Chef 8 burner in original condition

Post# 534182 , Reply# 46   7/31/2011 at 23:44 (4,623 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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peteski50's profile picture    " Don't seem like the panels are removable. "


They are. I know, I removed those seen on the pictures quite a few times! Wink

peteski50's profile picture    "It is possible the baking and broiling elements May be removable. "

They aren't,  (I mean, not by just pulling on them like the baking elements in my Flair range!) but the panel under the baking element is removable.  

mixfinder's profile pictureThere must be a connection with Enterprise and the US brand Monarch. The style and functions is identical to Monarchs of the 60's.

That's possible, I have searched for a picture or an ad showing Monarch ranges from the 1960's-1970's but all I found was that...
A current product from Enterprise (who doesn't sell electric ranges anymore) is called Monarch.
http://www.enterprise-fawcett.com/monarch.php
And this:
http://www.monarchrange.com/ads/pages/DodgeCountyFairAssoc_LaterYrs.pdf  (same link as below)


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Post# 534183 , Reply# 47   7/31/2011 at 23:57 (4,623 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Magic Chef made some of the most handsome stoves ever.  That one above is absolutely stunning.


Post# 534190 , Reply# 48   8/1/2011 at 00:30 (4,623 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Magic Chef,

 

It certainly looks much nicer than the avocado mini gas range (with just 3 burners and a small oven) that I have in my 1968 16' trailer. Even the "Magic Chef" emblem on this one is just a partially peeled-off sticker that looks very cheap (and the oven doesn't work anymore!).

My grandmother also had a Magic Chef wall oven and cook top in her 1964 trailer in Florida and these looked better than mine (but she didn't like the oven much, even if she was used to gas ovens).

She had adjusted the pilot on the cook top so low that just a draft from the open windows was enough to turn it off. I didn't like the propane scent (which my grandmother didn't even notice) when it happened so I readjusted it while she wasn't there!


Post# 534303 , Reply# 49   8/1/2011 at 11:05 (4,623 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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No doubt about it, Magic Chef isn't what it used to be.  Last time I bothered to check, they had been absorbed into the Maytag/Jenn-Air and who knows what else conglomerate, which I guess subsequently got swallowed up by the Whirlpool behemoth.


Post# 534313 , Reply# 50   8/1/2011 at 11:37 (4,623 days old) by retropia ()        

That 1939 Magic Chef reminds me of the range Mildred Pierce had in her first restaurant, in the HBO version. What was the menu? I think your choices were fried chicken and waffles, or a vegetable if you didn't want the waffles.


Post# 534373 , Reply# 51   8/1/2011 at 16:24 (4,623 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Hardwick!

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1971 series - I wish I could see the print better!



Post# 534392 , Reply# 52   8/1/2011 at 18:08 (4,622 days old) by paulg (My sweet home... Chicago)        
TAPPAN Electronic model R-4-LA

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Here's some specs from the info that came with the oven.
220 lbs.
208-236 volts
40 amp service required. 45 amp fuse internal.
Coolant: 1/3 Atlas Permaguard to 2/3 distilled water
A pump circulates coolant through the plate transformer, through the magnetron, to the radiator where it is cooled by two fans.
It uses a Litton Microtron. There's a whole article about this unit in the March,1963 edition of Radio-Electronics.
More info to follow..


Post# 534394 , Reply# 53   8/1/2011 at 18:34 (4,622 days old) by paulg (My sweet home... Chicago)        
TAPPAN Electronic model R-4-LA

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How did I find it? ...Actually it found me.
My partner has an elderly family member that was being moved to assisted living. Knowing that the house was going to be repaired by family, she advised that an expert had to be called to decommission that electronic oven.
I am not one to toot my horn much but I will now admit that I am an expert in microwave ovens. I have performed training classes on their service and repair and still handle product safety issues for this product although my daily duties actually lie elsewhere. It was rather obvious that they needed to call me. Sort of a no-brainer here...
I thought I was being called in to pull some standard-grade oven. However when I finally saw the oven I knew exactly what that was. This oven actually dates back more to 1950's rather than the 1960's. This oven is not for any novice and only me and one other colleague know anything about water-cooled microwave ovens.
After I safely pulled the oven i asked the family what was to be done with it. It was going to the dump.
... No it wasn't.
I advised that this was a museum piece and I'd find a home for it. And that I'll do.
Life gets busy and so I haven't cleaned it up yet. However, it'll find a home someday to help teach the history of the microwave oven.


Post# 534397 , Reply# 54   8/1/2011 at 18:53 (4,622 days old) by xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania )        

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The Aunt in-law of a co-worker has one of these Amanas in their kitchen of their custom built 1959 Ranch. Last they knew of Aunt Dee-Dee was still using it. It was one of the very first ones sold in the area


Post# 534420 , Reply# 55   8/1/2011 at 22:48 (4,622 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Hotpoint!

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1950's Hotpoint
I like the fact it has dials instead of push buttons!


Post# 534421 , Reply# 56   8/1/2011 at 22:49 (4,622 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Hotpoint

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next

Post# 534423 , Reply# 57   8/1/2011 at 22:49 (4,622 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Hotpoint

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last

Post# 534672 , Reply# 58   8/2/2011 at 21:51 (4,621 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Norge gas stove available in the ATL area...



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Post# 534675 , Reply# 59   8/2/2011 at 22:20 (4,621 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Sears!

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Real nice range I copied not sure of the year or specs!

Post# 534700 , Reply# 60   8/3/2011 at 04:28 (4,621 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)        
Speaking of Enterprise Ranges......

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There is a 1955 Enterprise Range Brochure for sale on Ebay right now...PAT COFFEY



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Post# 534711 , Reply# 61   8/3/2011 at 06:48 (4,621 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Sears!

It might SAY Sears, but that is Kelvinator all the way!! I loved those.

Post# 534731 , Reply# 62   8/3/2011 at 09:29 (4,621 days old) by 54monroe ()        
1953 O'keefe & Merritt

This is model 515G. I restored it 5 years ago to use in my kitchen.

Post# 534740 , Reply# 63   8/3/2011 at 09:57 (4,621 days old) by henry200 ()        
Stunning O&M!

The addition of the red accents really makes it pop! 


Post# 534857 , Reply# 64   8/3/2011 at 21:30 (4,620 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
GE series!

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I want to put out a few good ones from GE years gone bye!
Lete start with a 1950's space saver!


Post# 534858 , Reply# 65   8/3/2011 at 21:31 (4,620 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
GE

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Americana 1962

Post# 534859 , Reply# 66   8/3/2011 at 21:32 (4,620 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
GE

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Americana 1962 next!

Post# 534860 , Reply# 67   8/3/2011 at 21:33 (4,620 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
GE

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Americana 1964!

Post# 534861 , Reply# 68   8/3/2011 at 21:34 (4,620 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
GE

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Dropin 1961!

Post# 534862 , Reply# 69   8/3/2011 at 21:35 (4,620 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
GE

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1961

Post# 534863 , Reply# 70   8/3/2011 at 21:36 (4,620 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
GE

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1960

Post# 534864 , Reply# 71   8/3/2011 at 21:37 (4,620 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
GE

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not sure of year maybe 1960 or 1961

Post# 534865 , Reply# 72   8/3/2011 at 21:41 (4,620 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
GE

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1968 someone else had posted this before!

Post# 534866 , Reply# 73   8/3/2011 at 21:41 (4,620 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
GE

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1968!

Post# 534867 , Reply# 74   8/3/2011 at 21:43 (4,620 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
GE

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1972

Post# 534868 , Reply# 75   8/3/2011 at 21:44 (4,620 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
GE

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1978!

Post# 534869 , Reply# 76   8/3/2011 at 21:45 (4,620 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
GE

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Microwave Range 1978!

Post# 534880 , Reply# 77   8/4/2011 at 00:08 (4,620 days old) by Maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)        
The GE Microwave Guide and Cookbook

as mentioned in the ad immediately above is well worth seeking out in the secondary market. With (a) very little trial and error, the recipes will work nicely in almost any microwave. Some public libraries may still have copies.


Lawrence/Maytagbear


Post# 535234 , Reply# 78   8/5/2011 at 18:03 (4,618 days old) by hydralique (Los Angeles)        
Paulg . . .

Thanks for the photos and explanation of the Tappan water-cooled microwave! That's a seriously cool piece of equipment, I didn't realize anyone made one that elaborate so early on. It's worth remembering that in '61 $1500 would have bought quite a few compact cars, so that was a chunk of change for a special use oven. Was it still working when you pulled it? If not I wonder how long it kept going after it was installed in '61?

Post# 535315 , Reply# 79   8/6/2011 at 09:09 (4,618 days old) by paulg (My sweet home... Chicago)        
TAPPAN was not working

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The TAPPAN Electronic was presumed to not be working as it was unplugged when I arrived. Despite this, I ensured there were no residual charges on the unit and pulled it.
I don't know how long they used it. I do know it was working in 1964 as they had it repaired. TAPPAN/O'KEEFE & MERRITT Factory service came out and adjusted the safety switches and trimmed up the current - for a whopping eight dollars.
Apparently the owners of these TAPPAN ovens were on a subscription plan for recipes. I have these recipes through about 1967 I think. Also there was a brochure for new electronic ovens circa about the same time. Perhaps TAPPAN wanted their legacy owners to buy up.. Hmm.


Post# 535340 , Reply# 80   8/6/2011 at 11:21 (4,618 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Are these Tappan microwave ovens supposed to be unsafe or unreliable? Otherwise, it would be cool to have this unit working and occasionally used!

 

 

To continue on vintage ranges, here in Canada, we also had some brands like Belanger, L'Islet, Tappan Gurney and Moffat. I have seen Moffat refrigerators from the 1950's that were identified as Moffat Crosley so I presumed they were built under license. I don't know much about their ranges, here's a picture of one.

 

 




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Post# 535342 , Reply# 81   8/6/2011 at 11:38 (4,618 days old) by paulg (My sweet home... Chicago)        
Old electronic ovens unsafe?

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Are very old electronic ovens unsafe or unreliable? Don't really know. Here's my swing on it...
I believe in the notion that just about anything is going to be reasonably reliable provided it is properly maintained over time.
You have to keep it in context of the time the unit was made. For example, early color TVs were expected to have five to seven service calls a year! Expect the same for a well-maintained unit of the same age today. I don't know the expected frequency-of-service for a 1960 electronic oven but I presume they needed to be serviced regularly unlike modern ovens.
For early microwave ovens, RF leakage is a concern. I own an official Holaday certification RF leakage tester and so I can check my ovens to ensure their leakage is low. I would use the FDA method of checking. If the leakage isn't low the oven needs to be adjusted or just not used. Since my oven isn't powered up I can't quite get to that point to try.


Post# 535423 , Reply# 82   8/6/2011 at 21:20 (4,617 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Beautiful Frigidaire on CL this week - you go grandma!

Post# 535424 , Reply# 83   8/6/2011 at 21:21 (4,617 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
That's a better view.

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Post# 535489 , Reply# 84   8/7/2011 at 09:33 (4,617 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
well...

Its a 56 not a 54, we had a similar one at home, and I wish I still had it, it had a very well insulated oven, unlike the pull and cleans, the 56 never got hot on the outside....That Moffat looks very Norge like or Monarch like to me, wonder what the connection was.

Post# 535499 , Reply# 85   8/7/2011 at 11:11 (4,617 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Here's an ad that shows a Moffat range from the 1960s or early seventies and the picture shows an older one.



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Post# 535500 , Reply# 86   8/7/2011 at 11:16 (4,617 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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One in Ontario. (free! if anyone wants it!)



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Post# 535560 , Reply# 87   8/7/2011 at 18:12 (4,616 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Wow that is only 1.5 hours away from me.  Wish I had the space for it.

 

Gary


Post# 535594 , Reply# 88   8/7/2011 at 20:08 (4,616 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
EARLY MICROWAVE OVENS

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The 1962 Tappan built Westinghouse oven that I just bought I intend to get running and use occasionally at our warehouse-museum. I do have the Holiday MWO leakage meter and will check it, however after checking litterly hundreds of MWs over the years and never finding one that leaked badly I am not very worried. I have had a 1968 Tappan built-in MW oven in my W Va house for over 25 years and it does leak about 10 milla-watts on the left side, but as there is no known harm to such low level leakage it has never bothered me at all.   The 1968 Tappan has never needed any repair except a new magnetron tube when I got it over 25 years ago. I am sure this earlier machine may be a little more service prone, but this is nothing like an early color TV or even a B&W one for that matter. The factory seals had never been disturbed on the one I just picked up, however the owner said she never once tried to use it since they bought the house it was in since 1967. The MW shows no sign that it was ever used in fact. I am thinking of registering it with Frigidare to see if I can claim the 1 year warranty LOL.


Post# 535610 , Reply# 89   8/7/2011 at 21:06 (4,616 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Hotpoint 1960!

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I know this was posted but I now found the ad!

Post# 535613 , Reply# 90   8/7/2011 at 21:21 (4,616 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Westinghouse Terrace!

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I didnt realize they made a terrace hi/lo!
1964


Post# 535625 , Reply# 91   8/7/2011 at 22:29 (4,616 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Tappan!

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Tappan 1956

Post# 535629 , Reply# 92   8/7/2011 at 23:06 (4,616 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
GE!

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1967 wall oven!

Post# 535632 , Reply# 93   8/8/2011 at 00:06 (4,616 days old) by MaytagA710 ()        
Westinghouse Terrace

Hey Peter! Here is that exact Westy Range! For sale in my neighbourhood.



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Post# 535714 , Reply# 94   8/8/2011 at 13:45 (4,616 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Terrace top ..

I think that was a great idea!, Isn't it amazing what wonderful innovations were thought up years ago, I wonder what happened, the stuff built today is so plain by comparison.

Post# 535774 , Reply# 95   8/8/2011 at 18:30 (4,615 days old) by paulg (My sweet home... Chicago)        
Westinghouse Electronic

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Would love to see the Westinghouse Electronic in action. It'll be a great piece to show. I have no real desire to jump-start mine but I may be changing my mind on that.
I've run into some leakers over the years. The worst units had cavity or door damage though and were quickly put out of service.

Thanks Peteski for that TAPPAN Electronic ad. Clearly my unit looks very much like it although my knobs are different. I presume they designed the oven and ran it from the 1950s - 1960s with some rolling changes. Microwave cavities are not easy to design and so they probably didn't want to play with the design too often.
If anyone can tell me how to decipher the year of manufacture on a TAPPAN label I would appreciate it.


Post# 535797 , Reply# 96   8/8/2011 at 20:51 (4,615 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        
I remember seeing...--

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--One Westinghouse terrace-top electric range... It was at a Salvation Army store & in turquoise...

Only there had been a fire in the oven, so the inside was totally charred, and even burned through the vent going through one of the burners on the cooktop above...

I also remember seeing one Westinghouse 20" in a used appliance store that was closed & it had "Westinghouse" going across the front of the stove & even the "W" lit up, too...


-- Dave


Post# 535810 , Reply# 97   8/8/2011 at 22:22 (4,615 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Westinghouse

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A 1965 that can broil on both sides at once - thats a new one to me. I bet it left a big mess on the oven floor unless the drip pan was under the bottom heating element.

Post# 536019 , Reply# 98   8/9/2011 at 18:02 (4,614 days old) by paulg (My sweet home... Chicago)        
TAPPAN Electronic relatives

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I was perusing the TAPPAN original tech data supplied with the TAPPAN Electronic R-4.
On some of the data, in teensie-weensie print they remark other models:

R4, R-4A (Probably TAPPAN here...)
OLB22XX (Sounds like Westinghouse to me)
PBR-1 (Who is this?)


Post# 536024 , Reply# 99   8/9/2011 at 18:34 (4,614 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
westinghouse no turn speed broil

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Pete my 1965 WH self-cleaning range in my basement has the no turn SB feature. When you used it you placed the bottom of the broiler pan on the 2nd shelf below the food being cooked so there really wasn't much mess to clean up. My range also has the motorized stirrer on the RF 8" element. This range also has the temperature controlled 6" elements on the left. But best of all the oven is self-cleaning including the porcelain drip bowls in just over 1 hour. WH had the fastest and most energy efficient SC oven clean cycle, and easiest to use just latch the door and select clean on the selector switch, no confusing clock to set.


Post# 536076 , Reply# 100   8/9/2011 at 23:24 (4,614 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
westinghouse no turn speed broil

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Thanks John for the information - it is amazing we used to have such awsome stuff and it seemed like progress was being made back than. And now we have worked our way backwards in technology!
Best Wishes,
Peter


Post# 536196 , Reply# 101   8/10/2011 at 14:15 (4,614 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
?????

I wonder why Westinghouse ranges, are not as common as GE/Hotpoint or Frigidaire, to me, they were at least as good, and in most ways much better.

Post# 536197 , Reply# 102   8/10/2011 at 14:27 (4,614 days old) by moparguy (Virginia)        
Westinghouse Ranges

And they had the cool single 40" oven option!



Post# 536885 , Reply# 103   8/14/2011 at 06:53 (4,610 days old) by MrPapa ()        
Westinghouse electric broiler microwave (1957?)

I have one of these classic microwaves (anecdotally referred to as the first microwave in the state of Maine) in my kitchen, and I'm interested in finding a new home for it. Where does someone advertize an item like this to sell? I see the thread mentions that it might be a museum piece, and on Google I did find one just like it at a college museum in Indiana.

Post# 538187 , Reply# 104   8/19/2011 at 21:43 (4,604 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Anyone can identify this range?



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Post# 538400 , Reply# 105   8/20/2011 at 19:38 (4,603 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
I Can!

Its a mid 50s RCA Estate!

Post# 538401 , Reply# 106   8/20/2011 at 19:43 (4,603 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
And!

Boy would it take some work! The Estate stove company was aquired by Noma Electric in the 40s...Yes the Christmas Light people, Then in the 50s RCA got involved, im not sure but I think they were gobbled up by Whirlpool, if you remember RCA was on Whirlpool at one time, so I dont know who bought who, but I do know that the range pictured was one of the last Estate ranges made, 55 or 56 I believe, maybe John L will know, he is more of an expert than I am.

Post# 538433 , Reply# 107   8/20/2011 at 22:49 (4,603 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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The large burners look very similar to the ones used in Frigidaire ranges. Are they the same?


Post# 538630 , Reply# 108   8/21/2011 at 20:23 (4,602 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        
Westinghouse Ranges...--

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--Very Under-Rated!!!!

Seems a shame to me, too, that they never caught on; I try to look for them all the time Online (Google, eBay, etc.)...

Maybe the majority of electric range consumers preferred the majority of GE (the majority actually sold & many in use today!) and Westinghouse just couldn't work all the bugs out of theirs...


-- Dave


Post# 538635 , Reply# 109   8/21/2011 at 20:52 (4,602 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
RCA units..

These were made by a company called T-K., short for Terro and Kift, referred to as "Monotubes", Frigidaire either bought there units from them or liscense built them, Admiral,Some Kelvinators as wll as Universal all used them...Oh yeah, Philco did also, To my mind ,very good units, a tad slower than Calrods, but longer lasting and more even..IMHO!

Post# 538638 , Reply# 110   8/21/2011 at 20:59 (4,602 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Westinghouse!

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This 1957 model looks really good in a more modern kitchen!

Post# 538641 , Reply# 111   8/21/2011 at 21:38 (4,602 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
That..

Is the largest wall oven I think, ever made! Lenoir NC, my hometown had a large number of these as we had 2 Westinghouse dealers, I believe that thing is about 36 inches wide, maybe 30, but in any case...its a whopper!

Post# 538672 , Reply# 112   8/22/2011 at 02:01 (4,602 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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My grandmother's Westinghouse wall-oven was similar to that... She had a matching cooktop, single door fridge & drawer-type dishwasher, too...

They may have gotten replaced w/ new stuff by now...

I'm sure there was some movie I saw that had a Westy wall oven like that one, too...

-- Dave

[Correction needed on previous post: Meant "sold on RELIABILITY", not "sold on majority"...]



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