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Post# 540639 , Reply# 1   8/30/2011 at 16:02 (4,594 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 540645 , Reply# 2   8/30/2011 at 16:24 (4,594 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 540673 , Reply# 3   8/30/2011 at 18:52 (4,594 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 540677 , Reply# 4   8/30/2011 at 19:14 (4,594 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 540699 , Reply# 5   8/30/2011 at 20:47 (4,594 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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I love your modifications Barry, I am very familiar with this machine I still have one customer with this model who is determined to keep it to the bitter end. I just parted one out and decided to keep a GSD1200 instead for the working museum project. I just don't have that much faith in GEs electronics from this period. But I admire your determination, Good Luck with it. |
Post# 540701 , Reply# 6   8/30/2011 at 20:56 (4,594 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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I love your modifications Barry, I am very familiar with this machine I still have one customer with this model who is determined to keep it to the bitter end. I just parted one out and decided to keep a GSD1200 instead for the working museum project. I just don't have that much faith in GEs electronics from this period. But I admire your determination, Good Luck with it.
While these DWs actually can clean very well I can never get used to the limitations of a daily driver DW that doesn't have a full upper wash arm that allows large pots and pans to be placed in the lower rack without sacrificing cleaning the glass ware in the corners of the top rack. The other thing I could never stand about GE DWs was the cheap shaded pole motor that was always changing speed as it washed, it always sounded like it was straining. The good news is that the newer Chinese motor will fit these machines and it has a much better sound plus it uses 1/3 the electricity. |
Post# 540713 , Reply# 7   8/30/2011 at 21:38 (4,594 days old) by GadgetGary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 540722 , Reply# 9   8/30/2011 at 22:19 (4,594 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 540787 , Reply# 10   8/31/2011 at 07:15 (4,593 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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There is no difference in water output from the two different pump and motors, both motors run at the same speed and use the same wash impeller, seal etc. While it may be true that later DWs that were built with the newer pump did not move as much water it had more to due with wash arm design etc as they were trying to reengineer the machines for lower water use and quietness. But if you put the newer PSC motor in the older machines you will get the same cleaning performance without the loud roar of the fan and the droning- surging sound of the pump plus a noticeably cooler kitchen without the additional over 1000 BTUs of heat generated per hour of the old inefficient motor.
The original induction motors that GE used from 1967-the 1990s was easily the cheapest most inefficient and poorly built motor ever used in a home DW. You can tell that GE was involved in building Nuclear power plants and they were still betting on unlimited cheap power when they put that motor in DWs. GE also had lots of problems with bad control boards in these DWs we used to change them all the time. A lot of times the display would get so dim you could not see it any longer and another common problem was the connector harness plug that included the blue wire going to the motor would burn badly destroying the board and wiring harness. My customer with this machine just had this problem earlier this year and this is another good reason to change the motor to the PSC motor if this gets much use.
But don't get me wrong I think it is great that you are preserving this machine, it outperformed the KA KD21s and on DWs. And I to am a glutton for punishment as I have a KDSS-20 DW in my kitchen [ as far as I can tell it may be the last one left ] I also really liked these early electronic appliances from the late 1970s through the 80s. |
Post# 540927 , Reply# 12   8/31/2011 at 19:38 (4,593 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 540942 , Reply# 14   8/31/2011 at 21:00 (4,593 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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This is a awsome dishwasher and I always liked the GE style but for me my prefrence was the upper spray arm as opposed to the tower. I always found it easier to give the arm a quick spin as opposed to loading around the tower. But I still did a good job at loading any machine. Do you have pictures of the interior?
Best of Luck with this unit. Peter |
Post# 540948 , Reply# 15   8/31/2011 at 21:38 (4,593 days old) by bwoods ()   |   | |
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Here, Peter HAVE TO SEND ANOTHER WHEN ITS UNLOADED! |
Post# 540950 , Reply# 16   8/31/2011 at 21:48 (4,593 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Thanks for posting. You have a great style to loading. I never realized you could put in the electric elements from the stove. I used to have a electric stove and I never thought of doing that. After I cleaned the stove I would plug them back in and turn on for a minute or two to burn off the debre. See you learn something everyday!
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Post# 540988 , Reply# 18   9/1/2011 at 06:15 (4,593 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 540990 , Reply# 19   9/1/2011 at 06:32 (4,592 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)   |   | |
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electric stove element burners are really "self cleaning"just turn them on for a few min on high-the debris is burned away-they should NOT be run thru a dishwasher or immersed. |
Post# 541075 , Reply# 22   9/1/2011 at 16:02 (4,592 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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I once had a Frigidare Electra-Clean range in my shop for testing that had been sitting outside for over a month and enough moisture had gotten inside the bake element that when I was preheating the oven I heard this strange sound like steam escaping. I opened the oven door and everything looked normal, bake element nice and red hot, then closed the door and as I turned away from the range there I heard this loud explosion and the oven door blew open with enough force to hit me in the butt. I am very lucky that it didn't do this a moment earlier as I may have been blinded. I have also heard from many customers over the years that have had surface elements fail violently and shooting sparks and even welding cookware to the element in the process. This is way it is important not to use electric elements on the high heat setting for long periods of time if large portions of it are glowing red hot. If this is occurring you either need better [ flat ] pans or the elements are warped and should be replaced. This is one reason that appliance manufacturers have been pushing smooth-top ranges as they are much safer in the hands of stupid consumers. I personally like the Calrod type surface elements but they do need to be used with a bit of common sense.
On cleaning Items in the self-cleaning oven, I have always done this and always leave the racks in place. In fact most SCOs ever made either suggested leaving the racks in or said it was permissible if you didn't mind the initial discoloration that occurred from doing so. I know that there are some newer SCOs that tell you to take the racks out or even have an interlock that forces you to remove them, but I would never buy such an oven. SCOs are wonderful for cleaning porcelain on steel cookware and drip bowls, cast iron cookware, many aluminum pieces and one of my favorites Corning-Ware. |
Post# 541096 , Reply# 24   9/1/2011 at 18:31 (4,592 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))   |   | |
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