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Post# 542136   9/7/2011 at 00:07 (4,613 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Oh, the things you find when you tell yourself "There's nothing cool around here!"
This little gem showed-up on Craigslist. The gentleman posting it was very concerned that it be acquired by someone who wasn't going to turn it into a Honda. We found it out in a small MCM community out on the east side of Tucson. He also had a coppertone Frigidaire Custom Deluxe cooktop he was selling, with matching vent hood--too bad we have a freestanding gas range now! I thought this was a TOL belt-drive. |
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Post# 542137 , Reply# 1   9/7/2011 at 00:07 (4,613 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Post# 542138 , Reply# 2   9/7/2011 at 00:09 (4,613 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Post# 542139 , Reply# 3   9/7/2011 at 00:10 (4,613 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Post# 542140 , Reply# 4   9/7/2011 at 00:12 (4,613 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Post# 542142 , Reply# 5   9/7/2011 at 00:12 (4,613 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Post# 542143 , Reply# 6   9/7/2011 at 00:15 (4,613 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Post# 542144 , Reply# 7   9/7/2011 at 00:16 (4,613 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Post# 542145 , Reply# 8   9/7/2011 at 00:18 (4,613 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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This is definitely quieter than a belt-drive, but the indicator light on the front is still hardly a necessity :-)
The main noise is the pulsating hum of the motor. Everything else is a lot of whooshing water. It's very satisfying--and works amazingly! I've always wanted to have one of these reverse-racks to play with (the last one we had was BOL, and someone had broken the Bakelite timer housing by bumping the timer knob on something in transit), and we always wanted to find the rapid-advance TOL series. We just never thought there would be any DU900s here in Tucson, but it just goes to show, you never know! |
Post# 542147 , Reply# 9   9/7/2011 at 00:27 (4,613 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 542148 , Reply# 10   9/7/2011 at 00:28 (4,613 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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That stubby little tower looks delightfully obscene.
My compliments on the reconfiguration by the sink! That was absolutely necessary and, from the way the enclosure fits so perfectly in the space, clearly meant to happen. Yippee for making a super dysfunctional kitchen much less so! Who gets the credit?
Is that sunburst clock still keeping time since I inadvertently kicked it into submission? And do I spy the land line I've been hoping for (fingers crossed since I know that's where the jack is) or is that beige '59 500 still just a prop?
Great looking machine. Does this mean the Whirly remains on deck indefinitely? Wither the Wards???
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Post# 542157 , Reply# 11   9/7/2011 at 05:12 (4,613 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 542158 , Reply# 12   9/7/2011 at 05:20 (4,613 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 542161 , Reply# 13   9/7/2011 at 05:33 (4,613 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 542166 , Reply# 14   9/7/2011 at 07:15 (4,613 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Congratulations on your new DW find Nate. I remember these machines well as I started working at a MT home appliance store in the mid 1970s and this store had sold a lot of these machines. Like many original designs this machine was better in many ways than the BD machines that followed. Yours would be a later build model built somewhere 1973-1975 from the looks of it and they had worked a number of bugs out of it by then. MTs very small jets in the wash arms tended to not toss light weight items around like most DWs do, the disadvantage was if you triple stack items on top of other items the center items don't get as much water as KAs WPs etc etc, and can leave some unwashed areas.
You have certainly found a rare machine as these did not hold up well past 10-15 years in daily use. I found a basic one of the WU200s a few years ago that I was going to save for the Museum but it was just too tired. I do have a customer that has a WU400 that has only been run twice since 1979 when he bought his house that has told me I can have it if I put something newer in its place. I may go after it at some point, but I already have an unused TOL BD model for our collection already.
PS I also have a Jenn-Air BD TOL 1988 DW in excellent condition that needs a home if someone wants the best reverse rack machine ever contact me. |
Post# 542167 , Reply# 15   9/7/2011 at 07:32 (4,613 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 542170 , Reply# 16   9/7/2011 at 07:48 (4,613 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 542172 , Reply# 17   9/7/2011 at 07:51 (4,613 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 542175 , Reply# 18   9/7/2011 at 07:57 (4,613 days old) by cuffs054 (MONTICELLO, GA)   |   | |
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Nate, do you have to hold down the cycle button till the machine starts like the belt drive I had or does start immediately? |
Post# 542179 , Reply# 19   9/7/2011 at 08:19 (4,613 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)   |   | |
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Post# 542182 , Reply# 20   9/7/2011 at 08:38 (4,613 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Ooo, very very nice. Low use with original racks!
Several years ago Cory found one of these with a brushed chrome front panel. I believe it ended up in Davenport. I've always wanted to hear one of the original drive designs run. If I remember right, they are much heavier than their later belt-drive cousins. Ben |
Post# 542186 , Reply# 21   9/7/2011 at 09:19 (4,613 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN)   |   | |
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Post# 542197 , Reply# 22   9/7/2011 at 10:38 (4,613 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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The lower wash arm and center spray tower are made of SS.
Ken that wonderful heavy duty silverware basket with the small holes in the bottom caused a lot of consumer complaints for MT. The closely spaced holes in the bottom held a lot of water and when you went to unload the machine if you pulled out the lower rack first then the top rack the dry dishes in the lower rack got an extra rinse. MT redesigned the SWB many times to try an reduce this common complaint. |
Post# 542200 , Reply# 23   9/7/2011 at 10:52 (4,613 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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That's why you unload the bottom rack first :-)
Justin, yep, we're back for good! :-) It'd be great to meet-up with you and yours! John, thank you so much, and that's fascinating stuff! I've really enjoyed looking over this machine and seeing just how creative Maytag was with the design. It definitely feels like they were handed a blank sheet of paper and said, "Here, build a dishwasher." The motor and pump nestled in the back, and the odd tricycle legs give it a very quirky feel. Ben, yes, it sounds very different. Kind of reminds me of an air compressor or industrial refrigeration unit. With water spraying around :-) Ken, sorry for the TLAs :-) "MCM" = "Mid-century Modern." Cuffs, you can just pick the cycle and press ON and the machine will jump to the beginning. Or... Peteski, you press the cycle button once more when it is in progress to cancel :-). Robert, let's do it! :-D We'd need to relocate the detergent dispenser, but the rinse aid dispenser is already pretty high-up on this one. I guess the vent would be an issue, but it's workable ;-) Oh, and those are pics of our kitchen, not the original. The dishwasher was already outside on a dolly when we pulled up. The house (from the outside, mind you) had this aroma of used litter box that was pervasive, so I'm thinking the little old lady who had it before the current owner might have gone a little downhill, sadly. Eugene and Eddie, thank you! :-D Bob, like John said, the plastics are not very much affected. I've only had the tiniest things flip over and fill with water. Plus, the stacking of the top rack over the bottom leaves little space between the racks, meaning that plastics placed in the bottom rack are effectively "sandwiched" in place, so they don't go anywhere. HOWEVER, they can fall prey to the heating element, which cannot be switched off on this machine (so I try to catch it at the end of the cycle every time and cancel the dry). Ralph, the phone's still a prop for now, but will become live probably in the next few months. I like having a landline for reliability. And no, the sunburst clock has reverted to its ill behavior. I'll take it to a clock shop for a thorough going-over; it feels like something is binding or inadequately lubricated. Toby suggested removing the guts and putting a battery-operated quartz movement in it, but I'm too keen on preserving the original workings. And yes, that spray tower is delightfully...suggestive. As for the kitchen, I shuffled stuff around and cleaned it, and then refinished the Varde enclosure and put it where the cabinets used to be. The kitchen feels much more open now :-) The Wards is probably destined for Nate and Melissa's as a utility washer, and the Whirlpool has shuffled off the mortal coil :-) |
Post# 542211 , Reply# 24   9/7/2011 at 12:22 (4,613 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Very nice, Nate! This looks like the second generation of the axial-mount motor machines. The very first had a few problems, as John mentioned. Early on, I heard they had to change the spray pattern of the arms a bit to prevent the arms synchronizing their rotation and driving the owners batty. The early spray tower was aluminum with a plastic cap which was even more provocative than the all-plastic iteration in this machine. I usually FF> past the dry cycle as well, my 1st gen. belt-drive was just before the fan-forced drying feature was added.
My mom's aunt got this very machine, in coppertone, and I can remember sitting on a kitchen chair in front of it for cycle after cycle. I thought it was coolest thing I'd ever heard in a kitchen. This post was last edited 09/07/2011 at 14:49 |
Post# 542229 , Reply# 25   9/7/2011 at 13:17 (4,613 days old) by AutowasherFreak ()   |   | |
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That's one beautiful dishwasher. I love your cozy kitchen too. |
Post# 542289 , Reply# 27   9/7/2011 at 17:48 (4,613 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 542298 , Reply# 28   9/7/2011 at 18:33 (4,612 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 542299 , Reply# 29   9/7/2011 at 18:33 (4,612 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 542300 , Reply# 30   9/7/2011 at 18:34 (4,612 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 542302 , Reply# 31   9/7/2011 at 18:42 (4,612 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Post# 542306 , Reply# 32   9/7/2011 at 19:02 (4,612 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 542307 , Reply# 33   9/7/2011 at 19:04 (4,612 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 542398 , Reply# 35   9/8/2011 at 13:04 (4,612 days old) by CleanteamofNY ((Monroe, New York)   |   | |
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Post# 542415 , Reply# 36   9/8/2011 at 14:16 (4,612 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Lawrence, ha! I don't think I've made it a full year for the last few years with the same dishwasher. But I will try my best :-)
John, I think what I am seeing may be a "faux" sump. See how there are two "sumps" under the wash-arm, in a figure eight pattern? Is there only really one that is a true sump? And if so, is the micromesh filter what's contained beneath? Since this unit was so minty, I didn't want to muck it up by tearing into it to see how it worked. Bob, no, I did not know that, the dealer clearly failed to include the manual. :-) Not to mention that this is the only pushbutton Maytag I've had! |
Post# 542417 , Reply# 37   9/8/2011 at 14:18 (4,612 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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Kind of range is that hiding around the corner in your picture???? |
Post# 542428 , Reply# 38   9/8/2011 at 15:15 (4,612 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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@John - stainless steel, yeah, that's what I said - aluminum would make no sense :-)
I stripped one of these early portables for parts and there are a heap of hoses in that machine. It was fascinating how they used the filter and were able to keep it so clean. I have mine in the garage next to the KitchenAid 14 but it sadly doesn't get used as much as it should. I can hear it crying out for attention once in a while... |
Post# 542461 , Reply# 39   9/8/2011 at 18:17 (4,611 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Hans, that's a little 21" Vesta. It's adorable, and I love it. I never thought I'd be so satisfied with anything less than 40 inches, but then we've all heard that before.
Greg, how DOES that filter work in the axial-mount units? Is it just the same iteration as in Peteski's picture that depicts the belt-drive version of the micro-mesh filter? So, same deal, just offset and underneath? |
Post# 542483 , Reply# 40   9/8/2011 at 20:28 (4,611 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )   |   | |
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Post# 542514 , Reply# 41   9/9/2011 at 03:23 (4,611 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)   |   | |
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Hey Nate I have not been here for awhile...But Congratulations on one of the best looking Maytags Iv'e ever seen. I love that dishwasher !
When I was in this elementary school , They had the same exact machine and color. This was a seperate building where they had arts and crafts as well as a cooking class. When no one was around I would turn on the machine they never used it. But when it cycled on it would fill up and then start spraying ,the bad thing was the wash arm would not turn. I would open it up and spin it around then close the door and it would for 20 seconds. Now HERE is the big question which I have encounterd before with a Kitchenaid ... I don't no if the holes where clogged at the end of the wash arm but I did not see any in the Kitchenaid.
Could it be a bad pole piece...But it spun when I turned it ? Anyway that machine had so much power when it sprayed lol. I was with Mike this summer and got him I beleave the last of the series reverse rack models. We got this machine at Habitat for Humanity. This one has the plastic light blue arms. And the wash motor pictured in Peters Litariture.
Good luck with that machine ! Greg your machine looks great did you make that color.. Peter you are amazing with your litariture !
Here is the machine Mike ( Dishwashercrazy ) Got this summer.
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Post# 542515 , Reply# 42   9/9/2011 at 03:24 (4,611 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)   |   | |
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Post# 542516 , Reply# 43   9/9/2011 at 03:31 (4,611 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)   |   | |
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