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Sneak peek at the New Candy tumble dryer range
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Post# 544548   9/19/2011 at 13:18 (4,574 days old) by nrones ()        

Hi guys!

So, finally, Candy made it's heatpump A class dryers!

Before we start anything, I have to say, that I know some of you like "hate" me because of my strong oppineon about Candy. Whatever I told/written here I did, because my personal experience was usually 90% opposite of what was written here, not to mention it later turned out that those things didn't quite have a valid background, but let's not talk about it. It is just that I've heard that people refuse to even read my threads, because they think I will immediatley start arguing etc etc.. I WON'T DOO THAT, and I want everyone to feel free to write anything on my threads! Cause I'm a person that is loudly talking just after a strong experience, and I will not dare to say something's good, just because it has Candy label on it!

But I wrote all this, because when it comes to tumble dryers, don't match those with me, as I've never used them (not once), and, obviously, I can't say anything so sure, however I can match the things I read on the Internet :)

Remember, this is a Sneak peek, it is not all official yet, but it seems these will be launched officialy soon!

Dex

P.S
Here are images of Hoover and Candy versions, my independent review of pros and cons is comming soon! :)






Post# 544549 , Reply# 1   9/19/2011 at 13:21 (4,574 days old) by HotpointFan (United Kingdom)        
I don't hate you!

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I think your knowledge of hoover - Candy should be praised - so well done!

I like them both!

Jacob


Post# 544550 , Reply# 2   9/19/2011 at 13:25 (4,574 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Ooh the look nice!

Post# 544552 , Reply# 3   9/19/2011 at 13:59 (4,574 days old) by nrones ()        
Beauty (technical) and the Beast (outer look)

So, let me start with NEGATIVE things:
It is kinda personal taste, but the outer look, something I hate with a passion, especially when it comes to Candy-branded dryers. I love when washer and dryer perfectly match with their outer look, no matter if they stand on top of each other or next to each other. On Hoover Aquavision models when they are on top of each other, they match very good, however when they are next to each other, they quite don't, because door is lower than the washer, and whole cabinet of machine on washer is shaped (you know what I mean? they aren't flat, they are kinda "fat"), and on the dryer it is completely flat. But look at the EVO dryer, it doesn't match washer at all!!! After putting such a great door on washers, they put THIS on dryers? and BANG you got Disney's Beauty and the Beast cartoon right in your home xD

POSITIVE:
When I was in Candy, they told me that they've greatly improoved quality of their dryers, since the production started in Turkey. Since you have to pay Turkish worker much less than UK, there was more money to invest in materials, parts etc..

1. On websites like reevoo.com no matter UK, Germany, Italy, Spain you could see (specially in the UK - where dryers are most common) that there was a lot of complaints about leaving clothes Damp on the EXTRA DRY setting.. On newer ones, with glass doors (Candy) and Aquavision if you read reviews, even the lowest rated one doesn't complain about that, if we should belive them, that major thing was sorted out.

2. If you don't like reviews of people who own them, then you have another option: Test magazines! GERMAN test magazine (some other, not Stiftung warrenttest) Gave Hoover Aquavision Dryer "SEHR GUT 92.7%" (VERY GOOD 92.7%), So that was the "milestone" between reviews and oppineons that made me think they are really better.

Now about the cycles.. Standard ones, but there are ones like ECO, Shirts, Mix&Dry, or Relax, if you have any questions about how any of these particulary works, please ask.
If you want, I will write about Mix&Dry, as it is really interesting and inteligent programme, if you want :)
I would have written it now, however I've typed a lot, so kinda need to relax my fingers and doo some homework too :/

PLEASE LEAVE YOUR OPPINEON, as it is not still efficially launched, I can send a mail to Candy with some Ideas of corrections, or something like that.. I am deffinatley sending a complaint on door look! xD but if you have something else to suggest, do it :)

Dex


Post# 544554 , Reply# 4   9/19/2011 at 14:08 (4,574 days old) by HotpointFan (United Kingdom)        
Wait - you are in contact with Candy! Oh boy...:)

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You lucky thing!

Anyway, the control panel looks a bit flimsy, but maybe it is just the photo?

Jacob


Post# 544557 , Reply# 5   9/19/2011 at 14:25 (4,574 days old) by hotpointfan95 ()        
Hoover

Only if Hoover where still made and sold in the UK!
They where alot better when the where made in the UK.
Like Hotpoint are no longer UK washers but instead Indesit (Italian) washers!


Post# 544560 , Reply# 6   9/19/2011 at 14:41 (4,574 days old) by nrones ()        
yeah

I mean I was in Candy's factory in italy.. I had to be in contact before that so they'd accept me there, so Yes, since April 2010, I am in pretty much daily contact with Candy in Serbia, and Italy :)

hotpointfan95,
I know some people would hate Candy and money talk, but the whole industry runs because of money (sadly). In Turkey, employees are much "cheaper" than in the UK, and as I've written, because of that, there was more money to invest in build quality of the machine. And no matter if they are Turkey, UK, Italy, China or anywhere materials are materials, if there is a proposed thickness, and design, it is a chemical formula in shape - and that's nature and science, and it is the same in every part of the world


Post# 544561 , Reply# 7   9/19/2011 at 14:41 (4,574 days old) by boschlover1997 ()        

i dont hate you either dex i just dont like candys

Post# 544565 , Reply# 8   9/19/2011 at 14:48 (4,574 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain)        
The Hoover dryer

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One of the hairdressing salons I visit has the Hoover dryer and it's very funky the condensed water collects in a see through tank in the door so It looks like a washer with water in it. I would be tempted to put a few small plastic fish in it so they could float around and bob about with the movement of the dryer.

Richard


Post# 544566 , Reply# 9   9/19/2011 at 15:09 (4,574 days old) by nrones ()        
haha :D

Nice one, ricky 5050, when I was watching some videos on YouTube, it really looked like a front load washer on a deep rinse :D

However no matter how it looks, it is deffinatley the easiest way of emptying condensing water on the market! :D

When you were at hairdressers, were towels dry? Because if we are to belive customeris, it seems sensors are quite good now :)

Dex


Post# 544572 , Reply# 10   9/19/2011 at 15:31 (4,574 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
Hoover-Candy Dryers

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I had a Candy CIC60 Condenser dryer quite a few years back. For a 6kg drum it was massive plus it heated to a really high temperature which made it quick at drying large cotton loads & the reverse action of the drum was timed for exactly the same length of time on clockwise & anti-clockwise tumbling which i find on my current hotpoint is not the same as it only reverse's for about 5 seconds which causes all sorts of tangling especially with large items. The only real negative thing about the CIC60 & still on a few current models is the plinth that you have to pull off to empty the water container. I find that it's very difficult to pull it off & to put it back on. It would of been more practical for the plinth to have been hinged. Saying that, the actual drums & casings of the current models have not altered since when they were made in the uk.

Oh & the new Hoover AquaVision water container in the door what a clever & practical idea.


Post# 544585 , Reply# 11   9/19/2011 at 17:13 (4,573 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia)        
From 2012 in Europe there will be on sale only heatpump A cl

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From 2012 in Europe there will be on sale only heatpump A class dryers. That's a new European Union normative.

So all the home appliances manufacturers will have their A class models.

This is also a reason why Candy is about to introduce its own model of an A class dryer. The other manufacturers will do the same if they want to sell their products.

Honestly speaking I wasn't (I'm not) so enthusiastic about Candy/ Hoover dryers, because of their quality. Even those made in the UK. The lint filter is awful, the lower plastic grid for the air circulation is very flimsy, etc. etc.

But I have to say that I like so much this new idea about the condensed water collector on the door. It is very nice and also convenient! :)

Ingemar


Post# 544587 , Reply# 12   9/19/2011 at 17:51 (4,573 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        

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I think the fluff filter on Hoover-Candy dryers are just fine because they don't go as deep into the air exhaust chamber like other makes which makes you notice & clean it more often which is a good thing for the performance & the overall working life of the dryer.

Post# 544592 , Reply# 13   9/19/2011 at 19:06 (4,573 days old) by dascot (Scotland)        

I haven't used one with the collection chamber in the door, but I find the drawer type ones nicely convenient... Especially if it needs to be emptied part way through a cycle, you can do it without getting a face full of steam from the half dried laundry :)

Having said that, last time I looked, some of the more recent Hoover/Candy machines seemed to feel a bit more solid than the previous ranges, which was nice when it's normally the other way round and things are feeling cheaper.


Post# 544618 , Reply# 14   9/20/2011 at 00:04 (4,573 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)        
Regardless of whats on the door....

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Anything Hoover laundry related that didnt come from Merthyr is banned in this household.........lol

Seamus


Post# 544695 , Reply# 15   9/20/2011 at 11:17 (4,573 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

I've read a couple of articles regarding those two dryers, I don't own any but if I were shopping for one, it would be from Candy, to match it with the washer. It's the best performing machine I've ever seen in operation!

Also I'm glad to know that "classic" dryers are going to be outlawed in Europe! They are big energy wasters.


Post# 544721 , Reply# 16   9/20/2011 at 13:51 (4,573 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy)        
1 of them is mine!

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I'm gonna have 1 of those babes soon... just you wait until my Hotpoint vented dryer snuffs it!

PS: I like the control panel on the Candy and the door on the Hoover... is it possible, you reckon, to do mix and match LOL


Post# 544723 , Reply# 17   9/20/2011 at 13:55 (4,573 days old) by HotpointFan (United Kingdom)        
Haxisfan

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If you buy the Hoover/Candy, can I ask for a few parts from the Hotpoint?

Thanks

Jacob


Post# 544724 , Reply# 18   9/20/2011 at 13:59 (4,573 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

what is wrong with the hottie?

Post# 544726 , Reply# 19   9/20/2011 at 14:03 (4,573 days old) by nrones ()        
But what about vented dryers?

Is that normative for condenser dryers only, or for vented too? Because as far as I know, the vented A class dryer doesn't exist

That will deffinatley be a dramatic change in choice of dryers, since, currently there are usually nearly 100 models available. Electrolux/Zanussi/AEG, Hotpoint, Miele, Bosch/Siemens, Beko, and soon Hoover/Candy will have heat pump dryer. Looks like a lot of brands, but there is one or 2 models from each, so from 100 we will to something like 10-15.
The second thing, that is not so funny is price.. the cheapest one offering is a Beko A class dryer, and it costs 353 pounds!! Current Beko cheapest model is 191 pounds... so that is a dramatic turnover.. but 353 pounds is a cheaper one.. the average price of them is around 600, so we'll see what happends xD

Well, at least, everything will remain the same in Serbia (for at least 10 years) xDDD

About the quality - never used it, so I don't feel like I have so much right to judge, but I've touched them in the store! On older models (GO DC 78, GO DV 38) knob was shaking up and down, so you felt like it is going to stay in your hand after rotating it, and the down plastic for the air flow was flimsy. Also, what I hated, but it isn't related to Candy only, it is the door opening.. on most machines, where you just have to pull it, I always pull out the whole machine, instead of opening the door. However when Aquavision was made, the whole door mechanisam was changed (because of the weight it had to carry), so when I opened Aquavision, I was truly suprised I didn't pull the whole machine out, and the knob was pretty solid xD

Although, no matter what tech appliance/gadget I look for, I would never judge it's quality by touch feeling, or it's weight, or stuff like that - but world would be boring if we were all the same :D

Dex

P.S
I am just going to eat something, and then I will write about the ECO and Mix&Dry cycles, if I'm not too lazy :P


Post# 544739 , Reply# 20   9/20/2011 at 14:58 (4,573 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy)        
@ HotpointF & aquarius8000

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I just got a little carried away by these new Candy/Hoover products... owing to the fact that I generally like them... but I'm sure you've all gathered that by now ;-)

However, my Hotpoint dryer is still fine... only the door catch seems temperamental but is always been like that... well... almost always! Still, somehow I feel that my 8 year old Hotpoint is much sturdier than current Hotpoint models. Besides, at the current rate I'm using my dryer (I only put my clothes there after they've been hanging on the airer just to give them a final touch of tumble dry finish) it might still last for a while... and I'm sure I'm already achieving A+ energy standards by running it on low heat for short bursts LOL

Anyway, if these Candy/Hoover are not astronomically expensive and I decide to replace the Hotpoint... 'HotpointFan' you'll be the first to know :-)


Post# 544743 , Reply# 21   9/20/2011 at 15:06 (4,573 days old) by HotpointFan (United Kingdom)        
Haxisfan

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Ok, I have a Creda Dryer, ie Hotpoint, from about 2000 and it is very well built!

Thanks

Jacob


Post# 544846 , Reply# 22   9/21/2011 at 06:25 (4,572 days old) by dascot (Scotland)        

Dex, I agree, quality is not just about the touch and feel. It does have an impact though in terms of showroom appeal. Something which feels solid may well fall apart six months down the line, or the internals might be rubbish, while something that feels less solid might be fine for years... it can be difficult to tell.

Similar example in cars, which the magazines often pick up on - Japanese companies such as Toyota and Subaru make things which last for a long time, but don't immediately feel as nice to touch internally as things from companies such as VW/Audi/Mercedes.


Post# 545390 , Reply# 23   9/23/2011 at 12:38 (4,570 days old) by nrones ()        
Interesting programmes

First, sorry for delay, I completely forgot that I promised I will write programmes.. here are 2 of ones that "stand out from the crowd" ;)

ECO - well, It is basicly an ordinairy drying programme, but instead of 50/55, it uses 40/45 degrees temperature when drying. Of course, it lasts longer, as any Eco cycle, on any machine, however when clothes are dry, energy used is lower than standard cycle :)
*when I write 40/45 it means 40 is the temperature in the drum when clothes are really wet, and 45 is when they are just a little, near the end of the cycle :)

Mix&Dry - I was always wondering? Cottons, a programme that recommends drying cottons and synth's together? Impossible, synthtetics will always be dry first, and overdrying is inavoidable, unless you take out synth's in the middle of the cycle.. But then - Dryer on "High heat" setting normally dry at around 60/65 degrees.. This cycle at first part dries at 50/55 deg. When clothes are wet, the temperature of fabric is always lower, because water is "protecting" it from the actual heat, so when it dries at 50/55 degrees, the fiber temperature is 40/45 (approx.). You'll see why was I talking about this...

So, how does mix and dry cycle look?
The determination of how many clothes is in the machine is consisted from the 2 parts, instead of 1: First, at initial part machine is looking for humidity, than in 2nd part (20mins into the cycle) machine checks the humidity again, to see if there is more Synthtetic or Cotton garaments. Then the drying at 50/55 degrees start (the actual temperature of all fibres is 40/45), then after the time synthtetics are supposed to be nearly dry (but not yet dry completely), machine lowers the temperature down, to 40/45 degrees, and dries the rest of the cottons that way, while synthtetic's fibre temperature never goes higher than 45c, which prevents damage, as the temperature is the biggest enemie of synthtetics, and overdrying may heat the fibre even up to 60!
The only downside, is that it needs long to complete the whole cycle, because synth's quickly get dry, and then there is a long way of drying cottons at 40/45 temperature.
Since that programme is supposed to match the Mix&Wash cycle, in which max allowed speed is 1000rpm, for drying of a 4kg load, spun at 1000rpm it needs 1hour 47 minutes.

Dex


Post# 545570 , Reply# 24   9/24/2011 at 08:57 (4,569 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy)        
Neat... but that's my idea LOL

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Honestly... Candy must have had some spies in my house LOL
I used to use my dryer like that mix&dry programme you described cos' I often happened to have different items in my loads. Depending on how big my loads were I'd put them on high heat first for a certain length of time making sure they were still damp by the end of the cycle and then I'd reset it on low heat for a furhter half an hour or so... again, depending on how much laundry I had there.

I'm not doing that anymore these days cos' the drying of my laundry is shared between the airer and the dryer... and I'm really happy with the results: no so much fluff to clean anymore! That way my clothes are keeping their fibers for longer and they don't need so much stitching (especially when the owner is some1 like me who can't even stitch a button LOL).

Last quick remark about the mix&wash cycle (called by other names in different models)... I've noticed that this not only has a slower spin (max 1000rpm) but is also shorter in duration... only 5 minutes as opposed the the normal 10 minutes of the 'Cotton' spin and the 2 minutes of the 'Synth's' cycles.

Cya ;-)


Post# 545590 , Reply# 25   9/24/2011 at 12:23 (4,569 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        

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Very clever programming of the different drying temperatures throughout the Mix&Dry programme. So nrones would the Mix&Dry programme be more energy efficient with it drying at different temperatures & taking longer to dry than a standard cotton load dried on high heat.

Thank's nrones for explaining the step by step temperature adjustments of the programme very interesting.


Post# 545619 , Reply# 26   9/24/2011 at 16:28 (4,568 days old) by nrones ()        
Optima

Honestly, I have no Idea is it more efficient or not... probobly not, because if it was, it would have been clearly written ;)

Haxisfan,
Actually, on older M&W (like on GO 510) max spin allowed was 800rpm, and it looked exactly the same as Synth's. However on Newer models (like my GO1 1274 LH), max spin allowed is 1000rpm, and it is shorter than cottons spin, but in the other way: it goes all the way like a cottons spin, but instead of rising up the speed from 1000 to 1200, so it lasts 7 minutes instead of 10 ;)

Dex


Post# 545640 , Reply# 27   9/24/2011 at 19:52 (4,568 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        

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I wonder how many people would actually use the Mix&Dry programme it takes far to long. You can dry your mixed washing quicker in front of a radiator. To many fancy pointless gimmick programmes for my liking. Tumble dryers are great for lazy people but not for me.

Post# 545673 , Reply# 28   9/25/2011 at 02:15 (4,568 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

now a q.

do these have aquavision collector tanks in the door?



Post# 545674 , Reply# 29   9/25/2011 at 02:36 (4,568 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        

@nrones, mix & dry sounds similar to Boschs Mixed Fabrics drying cycle-and Bed + Bath cycle in my new Hotpoint dryer. The Heat varies so Items are dried evenly, which means nothing overdries.
Sorry to ask this, I know its the wrong thread, but the EVO washing machines with LCD display. Is the Water+ function, like Hoovers Sensitive Care? ie 5 rinses, all with deeper water level?

@aquarius8000 No Only Hoover has Aqua Vision. It's exclusive to Hoover, just like the new Spray wash (mix Power) is exclusive to candy washers!


Post# 545676 , Reply# 30   9/25/2011 at 02:37 (4,568 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Thanks Mat.


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