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Hoover A3058, a missing link between ranges.
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Post# 546801   10/1/2011 at 16:02 (4,589 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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So here we are, saturday morning Paul and myself do the usual round of charity shop searches in Crewe hoping to find something but not hoping to find anything when Paul spots this beaut!

Paul will explain where it lies in the line up but Id thought we'd struck gold fiinding the 800rpm version of the A3060. Darn Hoover model numbers - no such luck, but it is special in its own way.

As far as I know this is the only one in the hands of a collector here, One was on ebay 3 years ago but sold to Revooh hooever that is! lololol

Anyway like most Vintage Hoover machines it was a MINGER.................





Post# 546802 , Reply# 1   10/1/2011 at 16:03 (4,589 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Mingin....

Post# 546804 , Reply# 2   10/1/2011 at 16:05 (4,589 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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and ive just realised none of us have taken pics of it after its clean up. I thought he had been and he aint. Thats ya lot till morning then folks lol. feel free to chat amongst yaselves. :P

Post# 546805 , Reply# 3   10/1/2011 at 16:34 (4,589 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        

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Congratulations Paul and Rob, looking forward to more pics tomorrow.

Post# 546867 , Reply# 4   10/2/2011 at 02:04 (4,589 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
800's :-)

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Lovely yah the aluminium panel machines are amongst my favourites, well done


Post# 546872 , Reply# 5   10/2/2011 at 03:17 (4,589 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Well done, great find!

to my thinking an old member here from scotland had one but may be wrong.


Post# 546873 , Reply# 6   10/2/2011 at 03:20 (4,589 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Nice find there, this is the model that next door but one neighbour Mary had (previous was grey Hoover Twosome) , this washer was taken away in the back of the van to be repaired, I thought at the time that was cheap and awfully bad service as the Servis Repairman always repaired ours in the home...Lol....its only when you come to work on machines in a tight cramped space with limited tools that you understand it would have been far better being repaired in a fully fitted workshop etc...

Now get it water tested and sheen shined AND please break it in gently, please use the Vintage Test Cycle which is Programme E for ELONGIVITY........AND NOT B for BOIL....


Post# 546940 , Reply# 7   10/2/2011 at 17:57 (4,588 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)        
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Great find there Guys. Rob it sure looks like it should be the 800 version of the A3060 although looking at the brochure recently listed on Ebay that was the Matchboxish style A3090.

Whats the date on this one?

Seamus


Post# 547026 , Reply# 8   10/3/2011 at 07:52 (4,588 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Awesome!!!

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Congrats on the find guys, I remember my second primary school had one of these. Hope you both enjoy your new toy, in years to come...

Hass.


Post# 547197 , Reply# 9   10/3/2011 at 15:02 (4,588 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi guys.

Thanks for the comments, on very much initially a teaser thread. Will supply some more pictures in a bit.

Mike - Unfortunately our A3058 doesnt have the 'Vintage Test Cycle', so it would have been a full 95deg first cycle - had it not wee'd on the floor!

I am relaxed about paying £40quid for something that turned out not to work though (not been having much luck recently, to say the least).
Had it appeared on ebay and been described as 'leaking' or 'holed drum', I would still have happily paid £20 to £30 quid for it and then had to fork out for the fuel as well. Putting things into perspective, I dont hold its £40 quid cost against it.

Especially as it cleaned up rather well, though the facia from certain angles is festooned with blemishes.
Nowt is ever simple.

From the top - after a thorough clean...


Post# 547198 , Reply# 10   10/3/2011 at 15:04 (4,588 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

The famous Crouzet 951 timer...

Post# 547199 , Reply# 11   10/3/2011 at 15:05 (4,588 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

...with its two motors on the back...

Post# 547200 , Reply# 12   10/3/2011 at 15:06 (4,588 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

solonoids and powder drawer arrangement...

Post# 547201 , Reply# 13   10/3/2011 at 15:08 (4,588 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

The standard bodyshell, with cut outs to cater for every model - the oblong cut for the Keymatic light show...

Post# 547203 , Reply# 14   10/3/2011 at 15:12 (4,588 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

A Hoover drum showing little or no drum twist! Just a shame the the nicely non-twisted drum has two small holes at the bottom!

Gary - a master class in liquid metal please!
Mathew - a master class in fibreglass layers please!



Post# 547204 , Reply# 15   10/3/2011 at 15:15 (4,588 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

The back cleaned up nicely, with no condensed water streaks from the steam vent - not many hot washes here...

Post# 547209 , Reply# 16   10/3/2011 at 15:20 (4,588 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

p.s the sticker on the back mentioning drum backplate!

The drum backplate looks very tidy and new - forgot to get a photo though.
When water was pumped into the machine, courtesy of a Hoovermatic T5054 by the sliding door, water appeared to be coming from where I had seen two rust spots as the machine was put into my car.

The impression both me and Rob get is that the backplate fitted is the 'new backplate' which was required when the sticker was attached.
Fingers crossed anyway.


Post# 547211 , Reply# 17   10/3/2011 at 15:24 (4,588 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Ratings plate - February 1977 - a month after A3058 was released onto the market, just after Christmas...

Post# 547213 , Reply# 18   10/3/2011 at 15:29 (4,588 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Where does it fit?

within the 'Aluminium' series, which was on sale from circa January 1975 through to February 1978 and was replaced by the 'New Magic' A3060 series...

Post# 547214 , Reply# 19   10/3/2011 at 15:31 (4,588 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
The series comprised of

A2020 Automatic...

Post# 547215 , Reply# 20   10/3/2011 at 15:31 (4,588 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
which was replaced in 1977 buy...

A2044 Electronic 800...

Post# 547216 , Reply# 21   10/3/2011 at 15:32 (4,588 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

A3006 Automatic de luxe...

Post# 547217 , Reply# 22   10/3/2011 at 15:33 (4,588 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
which was replaced in 1977 by...

A3058 Electronic deluxe 800...

Post# 547218 , Reply# 23   10/3/2011 at 15:34 (4,588 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
with the range being topped by...

A3008 Keymatic De Luxe...

Post# 547219 , Reply# 24   10/3/2011 at 15:35 (4,588 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
and the matching dryer...

D6008 Dryer de luxe ...

Post# 547220 , Reply# 25   10/3/2011 at 15:37 (4,587 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
4 of the 6 models above have a safe example...

Mike's A3006 Automatic de luxe...

Post# 547222 , Reply# 26   10/3/2011 at 15:40 (4,587 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Mike's fantastic A3008 Keymatic de luxe...

Post# 547223 , Reply# 27   10/3/2011 at 15:43 (4,587 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Mike's D6008 Dryer de luxe...

Post# 547225 , Reply# 28   10/3/2011 at 15:45 (4,587 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
and now the newly preserved ....

A3058 Electronic deluxe 800...

Post# 547283 , Reply# 29   10/3/2011 at 17:32 (4,587 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Paul, Rob...

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Now that's what I call a transformation!!! Looks good as new, I'm well impressed. Shall look forward to the video?? Wink, wink ;)

Hass.


Post# 547364 , Reply# 30   10/4/2011 at 02:06 (4,587 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Wow thats...erm...im spechless!

well done Paul and Rob, nicely done and great other machines!


Post# 547456 , Reply# 31   10/4/2011 at 16:07 (4,586 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
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Am i ready for a eye test or is that programme (number 1) on the timer dial when it should be the (letter A) Bio Prewash. Well done on the excellent clean up job. It's now in total show room condition.

Post# 547461 , Reply# 32   10/4/2011 at 16:33 (4,586 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Mr Eagle Eyes :-)

Hi Craig.
Well spotted!

Yours eyes arent deceiving you - we have had to install the programmer dial innard from an A3006, though hopefully it will be temporary.

When we got the machine, Rob noticed that there was a lot of play in the dial and difficulty in getting it to 'Push off' positively.
On removing the dial we found that the plastic protrusion, that slots over the programmer shaft, had torn and was allowing play on the dial. Once broken, the dial would have spun round and round, without turning the timer.

Raiding the spare parts we have, the closest we could find was the programmer innard from an A3006 (amongst others for the A2E04 and A3060).

So, hopefully temporarily, its equipped with a dial that works but a bit complicated:

A=1
B=2
C=3
D=4
E=5
F=7 (there is no equivilant of the A3006's programme 6, so it jumps)
G=8
H=9
J=10

The old dial is with me and just waiting the purchase of some super glue, before some sort of repair will be implemented involving the glue and me wrapping the broken part in acetate (those who saw my repair to the facia of the Hotpoint 95842 Microtronic will know what I mean by wrapping).

Have this evening possibly found a source of brand new replacement A3058 programmer disks, so it should be put back to normal sooner rather than later (with a bit of luck!).

Paul


Post# 547463 , Reply# 33   10/4/2011 at 16:35 (4,586 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

dial and spin buttons...

Post# 547465 , Reply# 34   10/4/2011 at 16:42 (4,586 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

programme guide...

Post# 547466 , Reply# 35   10/4/2011 at 16:43 (4,586 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

powder drawer...

Post# 547467 , Reply# 36   10/4/2011 at 16:44 (4,586 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

When the tub gets repaired it will receive a new door seal as well...

Post# 547470 , Reply# 37   10/4/2011 at 17:00 (4,586 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        
Very nice...

Looks like you are having fun with your new front loading automatic. I am having the same experience in cleaning up my first two front loading automatic collection pieces! I did email you about them I think...

James.


Post# 547499 , Reply# 38   10/4/2011 at 19:30 (4,586 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        

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Oh well my eyes aren't that bad after all. I'm sure you guys are really proud of what you have done to get this Hoover in tip top condition. you truly make this site worth visiting. I have been fortunate to use an Electronic deluxe 800 spin but not the same model as yours but a earlier model. I could go on all night about what i liked about it. I guess you know what i mean. Ahh i'm so jealous.

Post# 547611 , Reply# 39   10/5/2011 at 14:20 (4,586 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Impressive!

what state was the draw in?


Post# 547629 , Reply# 40   10/5/2011 at 16:15 (4,585 days old) by nrones ()        
Programme guide

Hello, Awesome machine!

But I am confused with the programme guide... Before fabric name, there is something like orange symbol with number and temperature, and after fabric guide there are letters (A, B, C etc). So, I'm not quite sure, how would I, select a Cottons 95 without prewash? Confuzed a little :P

And what is the max spin of this machine?

Dex :)


Post# 547750 , Reply# 41   10/6/2011 at 09:59 (4,585 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        
@nrones

800 rpm. in the name.

Post# 547796 , Reply# 42   10/6/2011 at 13:19 (4,585 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Wonderful

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Paul it looks beautiful, such a great looking range of machines, and how well you have cleaned it up......the internals remind so much of the AS1 summer special, but anyway well done in all respects.

Now to the Chemical Metal.

If the holes are small 5 pence peice size dont worry about fibre glass etc.

First wire brush any loose rust away, then apply Kurust this is very fast acting takes about 15 minutes to go off (the rust will turn black)

Once you have done this mix the chemical metal as per instructions and apply it, again this goes off in about 5 minutes, once set you can then paint it with either enamel paint or hammerite, these do take a while to go off best left over night.

If it is only surface rust like on the flange of the tub i just wire brush it, use kurust and then paint it

And thats it Paul, i have used this combination of intoxicating chemicals for some years with absolute success, BUT do it in a well ventilated room or outside

Good luck
Gary


Post# 548070 , Reply# 43   10/8/2011 at 03:29 (4,583 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Have you tested it?

Post# 548126 , Reply# 44   10/8/2011 at 13:09 (4,583 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Fantastic find, lovely machine well done.

You will soon stop it weeing on the floor, good practice for sorting out the leaking Hotpoint. Crouzet timers are huge, like a house brick, built to last.

Lee


Post# 548134 , Reply# 45   10/8/2011 at 14:48 (4,583 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Lee Wee

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Its bad enough when they wee on the floor but when they start telling you to eff off and doing rude things with a crucifix you know you have real problems :-)

If the timer is like the one in my AS1 and A3060 it will have a brilliant sound, lots of clicking and sort of groaning sounds

I love these old machines


Post# 548138 , Reply# 46   10/8/2011 at 15:06 (4,583 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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ROFLMAO

Gary your a bloody star!

First time all day ive been able to smile, cheers matey!


Post# 549344 , Reply# 47   10/14/2011 at 14:16 (4,577 days old) by Hoover1100 (U.K.)        
Fantastic machine!

Congrats on finding this, hope you can get it up and running and leak free soon, cosmetically it's pristine!

I wasn't aware that there was a difference between Mike's A3006 and this model, I had always just assumed his was an A3058!

P.S. When walking home the other night I caught a glimpse of an A3060 in a very Margot Leadbetter style 1970s kitchen of a house a few doors down from us, will certainly be keeping an eye out incase the owner no longer wants it!

Matt


Post# 552426 , Reply# 48   10/28/2011 at 11:28 (4,563 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Sorry for the delay in reponding Matt - i've been out of circulation for a while.
Thanks for posting.

The cleanliness was after a whole afternoon of removing grime and a nasty gash to the wrist, courtesy of the lid retaining bracket which I hit managed to strike twice in exactly the same area. It was a real stinger!

The machine was bought on the 1st of October, today is the 28th, and I now have a lovely 2.5cm long scar on my left wrist, to remind me of the Hoover a3058!

Maybe Gary's Exorcist A3058 (love it Gary!) is closer to reality than he realises.
Paul
p.s get to know 'Margot' better as, as well as the A3060, she may be harbouring a D6042 dryer and .... breaking out in a sweat .... a D7016 Superjet!



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