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Post# 547051 10/3/2011 at 11:35 (4,587 days old) by peteski50  (New York) |
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| Post# 547109 , Reply# 53 10/3/2011 at 12:10 (4,587 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
Finally, the faces of two unseen friends. Pete this is great! What a treat to see Ted and Gordon, and John looks like a giant standing in a tiny toy washtub. Thanks Pete.
Love the one of all four standing at attention like Colonels of the Kenmore.
EDIT: And now you've added yourself and Martin as I was writing WONDERFUL. How fun it must have been.
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| Post# 547161 , Reply# 99 10/3/2011 at 12:51 (4,587 days old) by kenmore700bill (Lodi NJ) | ||
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Post# 547163 , Reply# 100 10/3/2011 at 13:04 (4,587 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio) |
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Thanks!
Great work! Identify some of these gentlemen, I think I recognize both Tim Macboi and Martin Yogitunes, they've both been phone-helpers to me on quite a few machines, nice guys with knowledge and helpful attitudes.
And keep the pictures coming, they are a valuable resource for other folks "machines in need." You also have quite a variety of other machines to see in the pics, cool. | ||
| Post# 547175 , Reply# 101 10/3/2011 at 13:40 (4,587 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
Hand Injury? | ||
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Wow Peter, thanks for sharing all of the fun. You were with a great group of guys for sure!!
Terry | ||
| Post# 547185 , Reply# 103 10/3/2011 at 14:07 (4,587 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
A Great Time
I wish I had more time to spend with John and everyone up in Beltsville. I drove 18 hours or so over the weekend to make the trip and boy was I exhausted. It was very neat to get to know the belt drive machines a little better though and as always it was worth it. Gordon, Martin, Pete and Ted were all great company and we made progress on numerous machines. I honestly could have stayed.
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Post# 547186 , Reply# 104 10/3/2011 at 14:08 (4,587 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Malcolm -
As can happen so very often with these older belt-drive machines, even with all mounting hardware removed, a part, especially the transmission or basket drive, does not want to come loose (this happens a lot too with the agitators). In this case, Ted was wrestling with the gearcase and it let-go suddenly, causing him to slam his left hand against the edge of the cabinet. I have a number of those battle scars from older restorations myself, but they can put a damper on the fun! Gordon | ||
| Post# 547234 , Reply# 105 10/3/2011 at 16:25 (4,587 days old) by wringer (x) | ||
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WOW !!!!!!!! What love and admiration these pics show (plus a lot of hard work and damaged skin LOL). It is very evident that you were all in your glory helping this old gal to become usable again. My hat is off to you all !! Thanks for sharing. Jim | ||
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Post# 547236 , Reply# 106 10/3/2011 at 16:27 (4,587 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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It was a total blast.....to watch them wash is one thing...but to see them tore down to their basic shell, and then rebuilt from the ground up.....brings back memories of working in the shop as a teen......All of you guys were a world of knowledge....
Next time I am getting a hotel room and stay for the whole weekend....so much missed......also wanted to chat more, and hang out a little longer..... sorry guys for getting sick, that was the last thing I wanted to happen....but made it home safe....... hope we can do this again with another machine or two....maybe Gordons 518? | ||
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Post# 547519 , Reply# 122 10/4/2011 at 21:04 (4,586 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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| Post# 547532 , Reply# 123 10/4/2011 at 22:16 (4,586 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania) | ||
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Did you ever wonder.... Watching you guys restore this beautiful example of engineering that withstood the test of time..... That 50 years from now if there will be a group of guys restoring a "vintage" Samsung or LG? I think not.... | ||
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Post# 547559 , Reply# 124 10/5/2011 at 05:36 (4,586 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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The Kenmore washer being restored in the pictures so reminds me of the Kenmore one my Grandmother had-loved to watch it during the summer while visiting her!She always had me go outside while it was going-but managed to sneak peaks anyway.Last I saw of that machine was in the early 70's.It still worked at that time. | ||
| Post# 547562 , Reply# 125 10/5/2011 at 05:50 (4,586 days old) by verizonbear (Glen Burnie ) | ||
Pleasure Meeting Everybody!!! | ||
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| Post# 547864 , Reply# 128 10/6/2011 at 18:59 (4,584 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Martin, THANKS!!!
These are great pix, but you've got me, Mister! The shiny red 3 vane agitator in Reply # 120 I can't identify it. DANG IT. I hate being stumped by an agitator I can't identify it. And thanks for the intense close-up of Ted. Have had so many friendly conversations with him, always wondered what he looked like. Unforgettable! | ||
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Post# 547872 , Reply# 129 10/6/2011 at 20:54 (4,584 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Post# 547954 , Reply# 130 10/7/2011 at 08:49 (4,584 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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EXPLANATIONS OF WHAT WE WERE DOING Sorry I have been so busy I have not had a chance to add any captions for all the pictures that Peter took and posted, so here is a partial list.
1 Teds 1955 donner machine.
2 Teds 1956 KM Cycla-Fabric machine to be restored. And Ted pondering restoration process.
3 First group of participants Ted, Myself [ John Combo-52 ], Gordon KM 64, and my brother Jeff of Jeff Adelphi.
4-11 Starting disassembly.
12 Me removing stuck agitator.
14 Jeff heating aluminum agitator block to loosen it.
17 Me removing basked drive block.
19 Removing basket lock ring on 1st. machine.
22 Jeff heating stuck BLR on 2nd doaner machine.
23 Watching the eternal flame burn.
24 Me trying to loosen the heated BLR as the eternal flame burns on.
26 Heating a 2nd time to try again.
30 It finely loosens comes loose as Ted holds on.
31 Me showing my approved way to loosen a stuck basket from the basket drive block after the lock ring is removed.
33 Ted vacuuming with 1956 KM vacuum.
34 Picture of KM vacuum.
35-42 more disassembly.
43 More Helpers Martin YouiTunes, Peter and Gordon.
45 Me cleaning and inspecting removed spin tube.
46 Original Packard motor from 1955.
47-52 Serviced transmission and an original one getting ready for reinstallation.
53 Me cutting badly rusted spin tube off clutch and brake assembly as 1st step in rebuilding it.
54 Tube cut.
55-60 Disassembling and reassembling C&B assembly with new spin tube.
61 Adding oil to top agitator shaft bearing.
62 Transmission and clutch with new belt ready for reinstalling in machine.
63-70 Reinstalling and sealing outer tub. 71 Jeff holding newer GE motor to be used in machine.
72-79 Washer taking shape.
80 We added pin trap type to machine because we could not get original outer tub the water pump hose.
81 Light bulbs installed.
86 And it runs great YAY. Final assembly and water testing to be done this weekend. And then it goes back to Ted for refinishing and detailing.
Unfortunately we completely left out the very important bearing removal process and bearing and seal installation procedure. I am rebuilding at least 8 WP and KM BD machines so we will try to get better pictures of some of these.
87-97 Start of rebuilding on my LK washer.
111 Whole group with Tim on right.
113 Martin and Jason [ surgulator 68 ] He is my partner in the business.
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| Post# 547971 , Reply# 131 10/7/2011 at 11:32 (4,583 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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YEOWSUH, John Marin, OH NO, I got a wringer answer wrong--they'll be taking away my reversing drainboards and wash sticks.
John, I would have gone crazy flipping up and down this huge thread doing all that labeling. What dedication you have--
Thanks. I really enjoyed this. It's like footnotes in the Great Book Of Washers. | ||
| Post# 547981 , Reply# 132 10/7/2011 at 13:12 (4,583 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Pics | ||
| Post# 547982 , Reply# 133 10/7/2011 at 13:25 (4,583 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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I'd love to see your pix, Tim, and I'm sure I'm | ||
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Post# 549741 , Reply# 134 10/16/2011 at 08:49 (4,575 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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REBUILDING CONTINUES And Tim we are still waiting for your pictures. We are on to the super capacity models with the long center posts. Both are badly enough rusted that Smitty has gotten some real aircraft grade SS tubing that just fits over the outside o the center post that will be welded in place. This will provide extra strength and eliminate any chance of future corrosion damage. We will probably start another thread with pictures. | ||
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