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Thread Number: 36855
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| Post# 548295 10/9/2011 at 14:18 (4,579 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
hello to all aw members,
My duet set are slowly starting to show signals of replacement after 8 years of use 2004 to 2011, time and the set i am planing to buy for my mom. And me if they show thats its time to replace them will be a rebadge whirlpool washer dryer set eather roper or estate the set in this picture to be precise and i have a few things that i would like to point if members have recomendations 1- no suggesting to go with a front load washer i went a good old fashion top load with agitator 2 no suggesting models with a lid lock as i went to be able to set the wash dial to a certain wash time. Brands i am thinking of buying are 1-Inglis non lid lock model 2-estate (*rebadge whirlpool model in picture) 3- roper with matching dryer 4- huebesch model (ZWN432) with matching dryer if they are on sale and at a resnable price 5 amana washer dryer set and also please note that every 2 months or twice a week i have to wash a pet bed and sometime may need to have clothes soak all night if stain thank you very much and all advice welcome. 
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| Post# 548298 , Reply# 1 10/9/2011 at 14:42 (4,579 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
Well not sure why you dont want another FL.
1.They take pet bedding more easily as you dont have to wrap it around an agitator. 2.FL's wash stains away without having to soak, pre treat and mess around if you use HOT/WARM cycles with POWDERED detergent which is better for machines. Dont see the point of having a washer if you have to soak things over night in gallons of water which is a huge waste. 3.TL's waste water and cost more to run. 4.A FL has a window so you can see without having the danger of bypassing lid switches. 5. modern fL's let you set times and can be more programmable to your needs than you may think. | ||
| Post# 548302 , Reply# 2 10/9/2011 at 15:03 (4,579 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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well not for me the reason i am going back to a top load washer is because they are on a second floor and there is the matter that its a small space if 1 of my family members have to wake up at night and the main reason i am going back to a top load is because i can set the temp knob to cold water and leave it there and me i use liquid detergents and mostly wash in cold water the only time i use hot water is when i wash bedding and that vary from 1 a week to once every 4 weeks and second i for one thing do not need models with water heaters or fancy cycles like sanitize or vice versa and there is also the danger of my cats getting in the washer and have more control using a top load washer and top load washers do not waste water depending on where the water level is set. and if you look at this picture this is where my set is located and that space is very small and because the washer water pipe stick out behind the washer the washer is not = to the dryer position. and need to have the option to stop the washer if i have to go out of the house for a few hours as i do not went to have the washer running when i am out.
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| Post# 548307 , Reply# 3 10/9/2011 at 15:45 (4,579 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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| Post# 548376 , Reply# 4 10/9/2011 at 22:05 (4,579 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania) | ||
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After 8 years why do these need to be replaced? I've had my washer for close to 9 years and it works like new.... What replacement signs are your units showing? Maybe they could be repaired? I dunno I look at washer/dryers on the market today and I can't find any that I would really want badly. Top or front. | ||
| Post# 548418 , Reply# 6 10/10/2011 at 05:52 (4,579 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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well its the age for 1 thing and second there is the reason that for me in the space the washer dryer is the door of a front loader is in the way and there is the fact that for me du to my size its not practical for loading for 1 thing and the second thing thats also making me chose to go back to a top loading washer is i know that my clothes won't come out smelling like perfume as i am very sensitive to strong perfume smell if a sent is to strong i heart sneeze or get a headheach because of the detergent smell if they have a smell thats to strong and the pet bed that i wash is like a pillow case.
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| Post# 548434 , Reply# 7 10/10/2011 at 07:58 (4,579 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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and also the main reason i am going back to a top load washer is for these reason
1- a front load washer no longer fits my needs when i wash 2- a top load hides the plumbing pipes see my picture in my post number 548302 reply number 2 3 and finaly i do not need all these fancy cycles like sanitize allergen or a heater in my washer and there is the reason that for dose wondering why i prefer to op for a direct replacement rather than a repair is the last daily driver i had witch was a top load inglis superb 2 washer (whirlpool) had 2 repairs 1 in 1996 a motor change and around the year 2004 a few months before we had to replace it since it was already at the end of its life use a timer replacement and then by september it was the agitator so it was replace with the model in my post # 548302 i tryed but i never like it when it was replace i was looking at the price for a top load washer in 2004 and like i explain sometime i may have to soak some clothe that needs to be soak all night 24 hours and also the main reason i am going back to a top load model is because for me its easyer loading and unloading a top load washer than a front load model. | ||
Post# 548442 , Reply# 8 10/10/2011 at 08:41 (4,579 days old) by thomasortega  (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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Ok... and can't you find in Canada any H-axis top loader? They save lots of space and still wash huge loads spending less water. about the dependability, they will also last the same. If you want an excellent machine to last much more than moderns, you should get a vintage model Not sure about the models you have there but... Probably the top loaders also have electronic boards and won't be the same as your previous top loader. If you're really lucky, it will last for 5 years. | ||
| Post# 548446 , Reply# 9 10/10/2011 at 08:55 (4,579 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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i rather buy new and for me the rebadge estate or roper brand rebadge whirlpools tends to fit my needs and i can get some conventinel top load that are set for low water usage like the amana brand washer dryer this set to be precise and here in canada the brand you are mententing i do not think they exist as well
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Post# 548585 , Reply# 10 10/10/2011 at 21:10 (4,578 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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So if the machines fit your needs, go get them NOW! | ||
| Post# 548590 , Reply# 11 10/10/2011 at 21:19 (4,578 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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i am waiting until the ones i have breaks completly i am only in planining stage for when i do a spending budget witch might be in 2012 or if we decide to do some work in the bathroom but thank you for all the info but might first choice might be the estate set because my dryer is clearly startin g to show signs of failure like not drying proper so it might be soon i will keep everyone posted lol
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Post# 548604 , Reply# 12 10/10/2011 at 22:00 (4,578 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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When was the last time you cleaned your dryer? Maybe with some cleaning, you can give it a new life and postpone the replacement. | ||
| Post# 548607 , Reply# 13 10/10/2011 at 22:05 (4,578 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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its way to hard to clean the way its set and i do not have the requiered tools i might try using the time drye cycle that will disable the drying sensor since i always use the auto dry cycle and i think what shorten my dryer lifetime use is a couple of summers back that was around 2005 2006 there was a bird that entered the dryer vent and went inside my dryer so i think it kind of shorten the lifetime use of the dryer.
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| Post# 548616 , Reply# 15 10/10/2011 at 22:57 (4,578 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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| Post# 548617 , Reply# 16 10/10/2011 at 22:59 (4,578 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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Post# 548626 , Reply# 17 10/11/2011 at 00:35 (4,578 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.)) |
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Choose wisely
Avoid any TL WP made set that does not have a fabric softner added switch. These machines only do a low water rinse which is the equivalent of a rinse in a severly overloaded machine(not very thorough and hard on clothes). The FS switch makes the machine rinse at the same level as wash. The Speed Queen machine is your best bet but you will have to adjust the water level switch as the Eco-Nazis and Green Police have regulated reasonable water out of them as well.
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| Post# 548644 , Reply# 18 10/11/2011 at 06:44 (4,578 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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Post# 548694 , Reply# 19 10/11/2011 at 15:18 (4,577 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.)) |
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They are both good.
Either the Huebsch/SQ or the Wp made Amana are fine choices.
Some things to consider are if you prefer Dual-Action or a 1 piece agitator. Porcelain on steel or stainless steel drum. Both the SQ belt drive and Wp direct drive mechanisms are very dependable. All I meant on the SQ water level is that on 2010 and newer USA models the water stops filling about 5cm short of where it did on high level before the new regualtions. This can be adjusted on the pressure switch. On the Whirlpool/Amana the rinse will fill to a lower level than the wash unless the fabric softener switch is turned on. The Roper did not appear to have this feature so I belive it would always do a low level rinse. Hope this helps. Nick | ||
| Post# 548706 , Reply# 20 10/11/2011 at 16:37 (4,577 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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thank you for the info and i have one question if a bird has entered the dryer vent and stayted there even when dead could this mess up the auto dry sensor or cause the dryer not to reach optimal drying temp? and i think that on my actual washer i did today a small load and then did a mainance cleanup on warm water only water no particular cleaning product because i had hand wash the soap dispenser just to rise it out fully even if i did it in the sink i check with my hand and the warm water seem dumb down and both water inlets are open = i think its just my set thats getting old do the reason that i am starting to plan there replacement.
Ps: the bird entered around 2005 2006 for anyones info during the summer. | ||
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Post# 548727 , Reply# 21 10/11/2011 at 18:29 (4,577 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.)) |
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Bird in the vent
If the bird went in the vent and died you found your slow drying problem. If a bird died in the vent his remains are catching lint and the whole thing is plugged up. Your dryer isn't broke it just needs to breathe. As far as the sensor dry the sensor monitors the moisture in the laundry as it dries. After the clothes reach a certain dryness level the dryer runs for a predetermined number of minutes based on the dryness level you selected. Once this is completed the dryer cools down and shuts off. If the vent is clogged the alloted time for these 2 phases of the cycle may not be adequate due to lack of airflow.
As far as the washer goes if you felt the water before or during the heating phase of the cycle it would fell dumbed down as it has not yet heated to it's target temp. Once again I don't think it's broke just had not heated up yet. Any other questions let me know. Nick | ||
| Post# 548734 , Reply# 22 10/11/2011 at 18:47 (4,577 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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thanks for the info and the particular washer model i have do not have a water heater as it do not have a sanitize cycle but the clothe staying abit damp happens 1% of the time but not always put for anyone 's info the replacement of the set on short term bases is plan and on long term it will depend if for exemple the bathroom is repainted and the color of the washer dryer thats kind of cream color no longer fits and that we need to replace them still with tl model that are white on white they will but i apreciate all the info.
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| Post# 548838 , Reply# 24 10/12/2011 at 05:41 (4,577 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
Yes! Dryers that can "breathe" dry clothes pretty fast!
I can ALWAYS tell when I need to clean my vent! I wish I had a dryer that just was on an outside all and went STRAIGHT out, but that's not the case as mine goes straight up and out the roof. It's really amazing how you can look at your roof and get a ladder, climb up and get on the roof and you find yourself thinking, "this was a mistake", because the roof pitch is SOOO steep! I actually have this long telescoping wand and I put a brush on the end of and stand on a ladder to clean the exhaust cap with that after I've used the lint eater from the inside up. The exhaust cap is at the very top of the roof and hard to get to unless you actually climb on the roof. It's amazing how much lint just sticks to the roof cap (even with no screen on there) Takes about 45 min's total and I have to do it twice per year. Too bad so much lint escapes from dryers or this wouldn't be a problem. | ||
| Post# 548847 , Reply# 26 10/12/2011 at 06:58 (4,577 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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| Post# 548848 , Reply# 27 10/12/2011 at 07:00 (4,577 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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Post# 548900 , Reply# 28 10/12/2011 at 11:14 (4,577 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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VENTING GAS DRYERS INDOORS While it is not desirable to vent any dryer indoors, running a gas dryer without an outside vent should not cause a problem if the room is reassembly well ventilated. In many parts of the US an outside exhaust is not even required for gas dryers any more than it is required to have an outside exhaust for a gas range. Gas dryers only produce a fraction of the carbon monoxide that gas ranges do, so there is no short term danger in using it un-vented for testing purposes. | ||
| Post# 548906 , Reply# 29 10/12/2011 at 11:42 (4,577 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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but me in my case i will remain with an electric dryer and whne i buy my nex set i plan on paying for the installation as well and i think that for me the estate washer dryer set fits my need perfectly as i do not mind a low water level for the rinse as my washer is never over loaded and its very rare that i have to use a large setting the only time i would set it to ex large or large it would be for bedding other than that the water level would be set on med or small or ex small if only 1 item needs to be wash.
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| Post# 548914 , Reply# 30 10/12/2011 at 13:50 (4,576 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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here is the reason why i am chosing to go back to a top load
Here is the reason why i am going back to a good old fashion top load washer:
Top-loading washers • Removes more dirt on average in a normal cycle front load washer. • Met generally less time to complete a normal cycle that front-loading washer. • Rise in average a little more than a gentle cycle front load washer. • Is generally less noise than a front-loading washer. • is more ergonomic, due primarily to the position of openness and lack of clean seal. • Takes up less space generally a deep front-loading washer. In short ... Overall, the efficient top-loading washers that Protect You have tested provided better performance than the front-loading machines. They are the best choice if you are not or little delicate cycle. and its very rare that i use the delicate gentle cycle i only use this cycle for washing curtains | ||
| Post# 550576 , Reply# 32 10/19/2011 at 22:10 (4,569 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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thank you for the info but this will also depends on the price i am going to pay because so far the models that would fits my need are the estate washer dryer set by whirlpool the roper washer dryer by whirlpool (top load model for the washer) and the amana and inglis and it might be soon as usaly its like a chain and it would follow right after changing the water heater lol.
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Post# 550692 , Reply# 33 10/20/2011 at 10:47 (4,569 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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| Post# 550790 , Reply# 34 10/20/2011 at 15:35 (4,568 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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thank you but i do not think that canada will be eliminating there toploaders because i know for a fact tha the inglis line of washers still makes and sell top load washers as inglis is made in canada but i am pretty sure that when i replace them when they brake there will still be topload washers for sale in canada.
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Post# 550851 , Reply# 35 10/20/2011 at 20:10 (4,568 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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WP DD WASHERS | ||
| Post# 550852 , Reply# 36 10/20/2011 at 20:14 (4,568 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
Dream On...
Eventually, everyone will be on the bandwagon. And I heard on the news last night that manufacturers will begin dropping the warranty on their machines to less than a year.
Ultimately making the purchaser buy an extended contract. They already make you buy your own hoses for goodness sake! I feel like the mainstream manufacturers have lessened the quality of their TL machines. Probably trying to ween consumers away to expensive FL machines. Surely a conspiracy... Malcolm | ||
| Post# 550859 , Reply# 37 10/20/2011 at 20:43 (4,568 days old) by DirectDriveDave () | ||
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That's why the used market is around. | ||
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Post# 550863 , Reply# 38 10/20/2011 at 20:58 (4,568 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 550869 , Reply# 39 10/20/2011 at 21:13 (4,568 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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for me and thats just in the long term i am thinking
Maybe but me in if i think in the long terms its the question of budget and the question of space and the fact that both the washer dryer is near 2 bedrooms that is if my actual set broke tommorws morning(*long term senario here)and needed one fast its the question of budget and me the way i chose a washer is by evaluating my needs and cycle use and even if it would be a low level fill for a top load washer i do not mind if i compare this 8 cycle model washer thats close to the estate rebadge whirlpool and roper brand also by whirlpool an 8 cycle washer model (8 program for those that understand this term) or 16 cycle program model would fit my needs perfectly and there is the danger of my cats because i am afraid that a fl model would be a danger to my cats compare to a top load where they can not jump up.
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| Post# 550870 , Reply# 40 10/20/2011 at 21:14 (4,568 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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Pic 2 16 cycle model | ||
| Post# 550896 , Reply# 41 10/20/2011 at 22:15 (4,568 days old) by Spankomatic (Ukiah,CA) | ||
 Think I will chime in here.... I have used my friends 2004 Whirlpool Duet off and on since they were new. I never have liked them! The washer shakes the house on the final spin. The pump is loud. I don't care for the soap dispencer drawer. The gas dryer has never dryed the clothes completly. The cool down cycle is not long enough and the extended cool down is that on off thing. These Whirlpool dryers are know for the thermisters going out. I had to change it twice now. Both machines are installed properly.
Since I moved into an apartment complex last January.... my Maytag Neptunes have been in storage. When I first moved in I was using the coin laundry here in the apartment complex. It has a brand new G.E. TOP loading washer. It is horrible!! Sounds like a toy and does not clean clothes at all! I have to use twice as much soap in it since it is a TOP loader. So.......I have been going over to my friends house and using her Whirlpool Duets (even though I don't like them) since they do a much better job at cleaning than the TOP loader. I really really miss my Maytag Neptunes. Nice and quiet,easy to use,dryer drys my clothes perfectly with a great cool down cycle. They fit nice,not bulky. Maybe something newer/used might be worth looking at for you. Leave no stone unturned.... 
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| Post# 550898 , Reply# 42 10/20/2011 at 22:16 (4,568 days old) by Spankomatic (Ukiah,CA) | ||
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| Post# 550901 , Reply# 43 10/20/2011 at 22:32 (4,568 days old) by powerfin64 (Yakima, Washington) | ||
Explain.. | ||
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Post# 551253 , Reply# 45 10/22/2011 at 12:52 (4,567 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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8 cycles on the Inglis pictured above is misleading, nothing more than marketing. It's actually only 3 cycles. The marketing department gets 8 cycles out of it by considering each of the *marked wash times* on the dial as a separate cycle. - NORMAL cycle has (1) Extra Heavy 18 mins, (2) Heavy 14 mins, (3) Regular 10 mins, (4) Light 6 mins - PERMANENT PRESS cycle has (5) Regular 10 mins, (6) Light 6 mins - GENTLE WASH cycle has (7) Regular 6 mins, (8) Light 4 mins There's the (8) cycles, when it's really three cycles starting at longer or shorter wash times. Also, this is a ONE SPEED machine. All agitation and spin is at high speed. GENTLE WASH gets so-called gentle action by intermittent agitation at high speed, which is not the same thing as a true low speed. | ||
| Post# 551293 , Reply# 46 10/22/2011 at 16:35 (4,566 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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I have nothing to explain about my choice on going back to a
I have nothing to explain about my choice in going back to a top load washer and this is also my final post as well And 1 other thing you should know is washers today are meant to last 10 years so its normal that after 10 years of use that they are replace and i also find the washer i have for 1 thing very noisy when it drains And also when it comes to energy saving a top load washer do not need to heat the wash water as it wash even if they are not rated energy star this i do not mind and for me clothes that smells like detergent can make me sneeze or give me a headche and also i had to wash one of my shirts thats only hand washable i had to rely on doing 4 EXTRA SPINS just eliminate the excess water from my shirt for me that a proof that fl washers are a bad choice of washer for me and one of the main reason that when it breaks that i am going back to a top load washer and i hope my duet set breaks soon so that i can replace them with a top load washer with matching dryer during the current year. and sorry for shouting
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| Post# 551315 , Reply# 47 10/22/2011 at 19:45 (4,566 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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| Post# 551327 , Reply# 48 10/22/2011 at 21:39 (4,566 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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to answer your question
To answer your question i am not disatified of the topload model of the brand i am only disatify with the front load model of the brand and for anyone wondering front load washer dryer sets are not made for me for the main reason that as a french canadian i am use to using shorter wash time like in the inglis washer model i posted for me a 10 minute wash or even 6 minutes is more than engough because longer wash time is not very good and for me a front load washer do not clean very good aspecaly when it comes to stain as they do not remove them and 1 other thing is sometime i can have only 1 shirt to wash so having to wait 45 minute to 1:04 minutes is just to long for me and i wash everyday and also for me in my case loading and undloading a fl washer is a bit harder because it force me to sit down and sometime i can have witch is very rare knee pains witch means that for me loading unloading the washer standing up is easyer.
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