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Post# 550162   10/18/2011 at 08:01 (4,544 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        

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I know the shape of the lid, but have never seen that console



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Post# 550163 , Reply# 1   10/18/2011 at 08:09 (4,544 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Last of the Louisville Flo's

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It IS a Filter-Flo but it's from the last one or two year model run of them out of Louisville so it's possible that instead of a plastic filter pan mounted on top of the agitator with a stream of water directed into it from the pump, there is a plastic filter rim around the perimeter of the washbasket with the same basic water system.

 

My job is located in an apartment complex that was built in the late nineties when these machines were on the market. Many of these machines have ended up in the dumpster area for disposal and a good many of them have filter pans on top of white spiral ramped activators. I have taken quite a few parts from these.


Post# 550204 , Reply# 2   10/18/2011 at 13:01 (4,544 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
Yep it IS.

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I own a similar one, it's my work horse washer. It's over 20 years old and still going strong. It's had one repair in it's lifetime, tranny failed. I remember everyone was telling me to junk it, but my dad, who knew how to fix them, repaired the old transmission. The part cost like $7.00. That was 12 years ago. So far so good.




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Post# 550209 , Reply# 3   10/18/2011 at 13:43 (4,544 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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I've heard that the trans seals in these machines have been more likely to fail than in earlier Flos, by that I mean machines made the last few years. By the late 1990s these were rather resource intensive machines to be making, so I can see how GE may have had incentive to cut costs.

I always thought these consoles were rather "Whirlpool-esque".

I always wanted one of GE's one-knob wonder BOL machines - single cycle, no options, plastic blanks in the holes for the basic two toggles in the earlier models, and smooth black consoles in the later. Eventually they seemed to have a large capacity machine in BOL in addition to the 12/14 lb. model that they always seemed to have. Hotpoint had a model like this usually as well, though I have seldom seen GE or Hotpoint true BOL machines here on the washer site. Did they sell many?

Gordon


Post# 550211 , Reply# 4   10/18/2011 at 14:07 (4,544 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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without the lid open hard to tell which filter is used.......but definately a filter flo....

come on Mark, we can easily make it a true agitator mounted filter flo with 2 little parts.....do I teach you nothing?

the rimflo is nice, but that moving filter pan makes all the difference....


Gordon---you know I could build you one.....but the last time a FilterFlo was in your garage there was a disturbance in the FORCE.....I recall an earthquake and tremors thru out the East Coast....LOL


Post# 550214 , Reply# 5   10/18/2011 at 14:10 (4,544 days old) by jamman_98 (Columbia, SC)        
the last time a Filter Flo was with Gordon

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It was mine, Yogi. The one Mike brought down and stored for a short time at Gordon's.

Joe
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Post# 550240 , Reply# 6   10/18/2011 at 15:33 (4,544 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
filters

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Martin-you tought me well! And my "best wash, best rinse" machine is the Filter Flo which now has your agitator. But at $100 for another one, I'd rather save my cash for a Frigidaire 1-18. Of the main brands, best sellers of 60's-ish era, it's the next I NEED to own and operate, and it's a bit of nostalgia for one Mom had for years when I was growing up. I only posted this GE FF since I'd never seen such a console, wasn't sure what I was looking at. If the basement and budget were bigger, that's another story. I'm currently at 3 automatic washers(1977 GE FF, 1960 Whirlpool, 1979Maytag), an Easy spinDrier (and a parts one), a Hoover Twin Tub, a Speed Queen wringer( and a parts one), and 4 dryers. So I sort of have to watch and choose, dammit.


Post# 550257 , Reply# 7   10/18/2011 at 17:37 (4,544 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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100.00?........yeah that is a little pricey.......I'm getting matched sets for around 80.00......
yes, when space gets to be an issue, you choose a little wisely, and pick at least one of every style you can come across.....

still nice find, but Gordon is correct, these ones seem to have issues with the lower seal of the tranny, at least all the ones I have come across did....

keep your head up.....amazing what you can find out there, especially when your not looking....


Post# 550315 , Reply# 8   10/18/2011 at 22:00 (4,544 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
FF tranny input seal

i've noticed with leaking filter flo transmission seals that it's not that the
seal wears out as much as the seal is damaged by the fine metal particles filter
flo trannys generate from the way the brake band,spring clutch and other internal
parts are driven...All this metallic grit finds it's way to the lowest point in
the tranny-atop the input shaft seal...On every "high miles"filter flo tranny i
have had apart there is often almost a teaspoon of metal fileings built up above
the input seal.


Post# 550383 , Reply# 9   10/19/2011 at 07:24 (4,543 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
FF TRANSMISSION OIL LEAKS

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Yes B Danialson you are correct about why so many GE FF seals always failed. And I never noticed much difference on the later ones, some say that they were more prone to leaks. From the beginning of FF washers we used to change out transmissions faster than the VW dealers used to change engines out in the old air-cooled bugs LOL.

 

But having an input shaft going into the bottom of the transmission is always asking for trouble. MT, WH and the newer style GEs have all had plenty of oil leaks. This was one of the beauties of the old WP BD washers is that it was almost impossible for them to leak oil unless water got into the transmission and displaced the oil.

 

Even thought GE FFs were one of the easier machines to fix we almost never sold them as they were just too unpredictable and crude in the hands of some customers as we always give a 1 year parts and labor on anything we sell.

 

GE transmissions would either leak oil on the floor or on the clothing [ it ruined all my clothing ].

GE FF washers often had a tendency to walk and bang with out of balance loads.

GE FF washers loved to eat an occasional sock or small piece of clothing which generated a service call that was hard to get paid for if the machine was in warranty [ GE lost hundreds of thousands on this one alone ].

They were also generally water hogs that tended to get very smelly as the design didn't dry out very well.

 

By contrast selling new and rebuilt WPs and KMs we never had any of these problems.



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