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Post# 90367   10/24/2005 at 01:06 (6,758 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        

This one talks about Air Tumbling and Double Door Baskets, but notice the relationship with the Whirlpool Corp.

Both of these machines sound like they're H-Axis TL machines. However without seeing one, who knows what they are.





Post# 90386 , Reply# 1   10/24/2005 at 06:04 (6,758 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

The relationship to WP Corp. does not mean that it has to be an agitator machine. WP has been making tumble action washers in other countries for decades. And, the double door basket and air tumbling sort of cinch it as a top loading H axis washer.

Post# 90412 , Reply# 2   10/24/2005 at 08:38 (6,758 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
1958 Malleys

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I would love to see the interior of this machine. The top opening looks rather small? Could this be a TL FL? The article also said something about shampoo care. Could that indicate kelvinator/abc? From first clance I thought it might be rubber tub bendix! Would love more specs!
Peter



Post# 90416 , Reply# 3   10/24/2005 at 08:51 (6,758 days old) by retromom ()        
More Malleys....

As with the 1955 Malleys, I am intrigued (or baffled) by such a small opening. A very nice machine...available in semi-automatic too. The pink with charcoal trim must have been stunning!


Venus :-)


Post# 90431 , Reply# 4   10/24/2005 at 09:38 (6,758 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I guess that explains it.

Post# 90446 , Reply# 5   10/24/2005 at 11:29 (6,758 days old) by washinsheen ()        

That woman in the hat is exquisite!!!!!

Post# 90462 , Reply# 6   10/24/2005 at 14:50 (6,758 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        
Whirlpool FL

My understanding was that originally all of the Whirlpool H-Axis machines except in the USA were made by Philips. I could however be wrong.

I love the slogan though.

"Set the dial, relax and smile"

That almost rivals Dame Edna's, "Hello Possums, Guess whose mum's got a Whirlpool" :) My 1979 Dame Edna Ad should arrive today hopefully.

Hugs

Nathan


Post# 90463 , Reply# 7   10/24/2005 at 15:42 (6,758 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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"Big double-door basket"

That is what I posted in the Subject Drift line. I think that is a big clue for this machine being an H-axis toploader.

Louis


Post# 90499 , Reply# 8   10/24/2005 at 19:40 (6,757 days old) by maytagmom ()        
Interesting ad...

I have a picture of my mom, wearing almost an identical cover-up as the lady in the Ad...same color, same style...similar pose...too weird..
And she was pregnant with me....(even weirder, lol)
I was "hatched" in 1958! lol

Thanks for posting the ad....it brought back memories!

Carol



Post# 90784 , Reply# 9   10/26/2005 at 07:50 (6,756 days old) by designgeek ()        


I agree: horizontal axis TL. Double-door basket and tumble dry are I think pretty conclusive proof.

The only drawback I can see is that it had to be bolted down to the (presumably concrete) floor.

This is also a clue to why this design would have been used in Aus and not in the USA: the water savings of a FL but w/o the door & seal etc. Question: has there always been a need for serious water conservation in Aus, or is that a recent development i.e. in the last 10-20 years? And if recent, what do you think is the cause of the water shortage?


Post# 90785 , Reply# 10   10/26/2005 at 08:06 (6,756 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Seems like a H-axis T/L-er to me!

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What I'd like to know is....

"...only 169 gns."

Guineas? is this slang for dollars as we say "buck" for dollars or Brits use "quid" for pounds sterling?

If it is a monetary unit of measure, when did Auatralia go decimal and to dollars. Are hundreths of a dollar pennies there or pence? I apologize for the ignorance, but I really have no idea.

Lastly, isn't it odd that many English-speaking countries have dollars but not "pounds" or "new pounds?"

Sorry don't mean to hijack the thread.





Post# 90796 , Reply# 11   10/26/2005 at 09:45 (6,756 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        
water saving and Aussie currency

Hi designgeek

Australia is the driest continent on earth, most of the joint is desert or arid lands. Our population is concentrated around the coast where there is a greener environment but being very careful with water is really part of the national psyche, though we forgot for a few decades starting in the sixties and rediscovered it in the nineties. We have had recurring widespread droughts and Governments are finding that there are simply no more rivers to be dammed/tapped tosupply growing cities, they just have to cut per capita water consumption. There is also serious discussion of sewer -to -drinking -water purification though that is a difficult mental bridge to cross. Several new subdivisions in Melbourne have reticulated recycled water so the house is supplied with "fresh" water, the garden and toilet get treated recycled water. Also in Victoria (my State) all new houses MUST be equipped with either solar hot water OR a rainwater storage tank and associated pump/plumbing.
Water is plentiful in the capital cities but most summers water gets in short supply, we have mandatory water restrictions where you can't wash your car, can't water your garden, need a written permit to fill an empty swimming pool. Population growth is exceeding our ability to supply water, in my state the capital city and two major rural cites have made these restrictions year round and permanent. in country towns the water supply is often even more restricted. In rural areas where people rely on bores and tank water, the culture of saving water has never gone away like it did in the cities.
Twin tubs are still very common in country areas and are still available new, you hardly see them new in the major cities. Water conservation is a regular topic in talkback radio, you hear of people on dry area farms who saved bath water in a plastic tub to water a few struggling vegetable plants by the back door, and so on.

Hi Toggleswitch

see other thread about currency - we went Decimal in 1966. The Prime Minister at the time was a mad keen Royalist, in honour of Her Maj he tried to have the new currency called the Royal. Fortunately he lost out. Actually "Dollar" has a long history in this country - when the Brits were first colonising the country there was a severe shortage of hard currency. Labourers (and convicts ??) were sometimes paid in rum. (No prohibition here...) A quantity of old Spanish coins were found somehow and the centres were punched out of the coins, both the coins and the centres were used, they were called the "Holey Dollar" and the "Dump", not sure what values were assigned to each. (My Dad used to collect coins and stamps.) They are quite sought after now.

Chris


Post# 90911 , Reply# 12   10/27/2005 at 09:49 (6,755 days old) by designgeek ()        

Gizmo, your accounts of history & domestic life in Aus (in this topic and the other related one) are *really* interesting. In the USA we tend to think of Australia as "kind of like the UK but more rural" and then think we understand the place, but that's silly.

Here's a water conservation system I've designed for use in the US; is anyone doing anything like this in Australia? Recycle the used water from the washer to flush the toilets: Save the used water discharged from the washer, in a tank (a). Use a small electric pump to pump it up to a smaller tank (b) above the regular toilet tank. The toilet tank refills from tank (b) after every flush. With a couple of inexpensive relays this could be fully automated.

I take it that in the major cities, front loaders are the most common washers?

One advantage of TTs is that you can separate the used wash-cycle water from the used rinse-cycle water. The used wash water can go into the graywater recycling tank for toilet flushes. If you're using the overflow-rinse procedure, the used rinse water ends up being clean enough to recycle into the next day's wash water (I do this and add a little bleach to keep the water sanitized between washes). If you're using the Hoovermatic-style spin/extract rinse procedure, the used rinse water may have too much suds in it to recycle that way until the last few extract cycles.

Though, with an FL, all the used water can go into the graywater recycling tank for toilet flushes and so on, which more readily lends itself to an automatic water recycling system with less manual intervention needed.

As climate change continues, it's highly likely that water conservation & recycling measures will become more important in the rest of the world as well.


Post# 91028 , Reply# 13   10/28/2005 at 05:40 (6,754 days old) by pulsatron ()        
water problems in Australia

The water problem here in Australia has been caused simply by a lack of planning by the Federal and State Governments over many many years, also the rapidly increased(and still increasing population) also puts a great strain on the systems.
Mind you here in my State of New South Wales most notably metropolitan Sydney, I and many of my friends and neighbours are doing our bit to conserve water, however you do get quite annoyed when you hear reports of pipes cracking and huge leaks and water spouts popping up in suburbs and Sydney Water,(the government body in charge of water), take sometimes 3 and 4 days to attend to these leaks and repair the pipes and thousands of litres of water just go down the drain.
I agree with the comments about twin tubs I think they are great little water savers although I guess most people these days atre spoilt by their set it and forget automatic washers.
My neighbour for example has a 7.5kg capacity Simpson automatic washer which uses an incredible 225 litres of water for just 1 load!!!! good lord my little twintub uses 52 litres for a 4kg load and I can reuse the same water again and again for 3 days laundry and so I am only using about 104 to 110 litres of water for an entire washday, Oh well I guess it all helps a little bit.
Cheers folks.
Steve.


Post# 91049 , Reply# 14   10/28/2005 at 10:10 (6,754 days old) by designgeek ()        

Pulsatron, ultimately the water problems everywhere are related to population growth. The sustainable population of Earth, at Western lifestyle levels, is about 2 billion humans. We're already 3x that and getting worse.

Odd to hear that the govt takes forever to fix mains breaks. One would think the voters would take an interest in that issue.

Your neighbor's 225 litres for 7.5 kg, converted approximately to US measurements, comes out as 3.75 gallons per lb. of laundry. Your 52 litres for 4 kg comes out as 1.63 gallons per lb. of laundry. Yow!, that's quite a difference.

I think TTs are going to make a comeback in the USA as well for similar reasons; high efficiency at a more affordable price, and viable for city-dwellers with less space for large machines. Not to mention the highspeed spin cycle which cuts dryer time by half, which comes out as an advantage on the electric or gas bill. And the "stealth" factor: less vibration during spin than most FLs, therefore less potential for noise to be transmitted to the nextdoor and downstairs apartments, therefore greater potential to "sneak" a washer into an apartment whose management forbids individual washers (yes there are such places in the USA).


Post# 91051 , Reply# 15   10/28/2005 at 10:25 (6,754 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        

hi Designgeek

What you have suggested has been done over here but it is not common. More common is to put washing machine and bath/shower water on the garden.

Waste water diverters are now positively encouraged in my state whereas a few years ago, you would get conflicting advice as to whether they were even legal. In Victoria they are subsidised, as are rainwater tanks and pumps, low flow showerheads and small flush toilets. Dual flush toilets are mandatory. The diverters are a small device installed under the laundry sink, you flick a lever to send the waste water down a 1 inch diameter hose instead of down the drain, you put the hose onto the garden. In rainy times you flick the lever back to send the water to waste.
greywater savers like your idea are available commercially but must have a timer linked to completely empty the device once every 48 hours. This is because germs cam multiply rapidly in the tank.
Top loaders are still the most common here though front loaders are catching up. F&P top loader is the nation's biggest selling machine.

I am a member of an organization called the Alternative Technology Association, you might like a look at their website - link below.
We should probably move this discussion to the "super" forum as this one is for discussion of vintage appliances only and we have drifted pretty far off topic...

Chris


CLICK HERE TO GO TO gizmo's LINK


Post# 91549 , Reply# 16   10/31/2005 at 11:51 (6,751 days old) by designgeek ()        


Gizmo, can you start the topic, and copy in your last post from each of the two 1950s advert topics? Or let me know I have permission to copy those posts and I'll do it.

Interesting point about 48-hour flush cycle; I'll comment on that in the new topic.

Maybe it should be called "Australian household tech" or something like that, to be all-inclusive.


Post# 91609 , Reply# 17   10/31/2005 at 17:43 (6,750 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        

Hi Designgeek
feel free to copy my posts across.

Thanks for doing that, I have to scoot, I just stopped here briefly...
Chris.



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