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Thread Number: 37489
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
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Post# 557429 11/17/2011 at 21:57 (4,537 days old) by RevvinKevin  (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Post# 557432 , Reply# 1 11/17/2011 at 22:15 (4,537 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Post# 557440 , Reply# 2 11/17/2011 at 22:38 (4,537 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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How about the first! | ||
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Post# 557441 , Reply# 3 11/17/2011 at 22:40 (4,537 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Try 1958! | ||
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Post# 557444 , Reply# 4 11/17/2011 at 22:43 (4,537 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Easy! | ||
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Post# 557556 , Reply# 5 11/18/2011 at 09:44 (4,536 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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There are a few hiding in a basement in Waterloo....
First up - the Bendix. CLICK HERE TO GO TO swestoyz's LINK 
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Post# 557557 , Reply# 6 11/18/2011 at 09:45 (4,536 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 557560 , Reply# 7 11/18/2011 at 10:17 (4,536 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Post# 557562 , Reply# 8 11/18/2011 at 10:34 (4,536 days old) by paulg (My sweet home... Chicago) |
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I would give my left | ||
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Post# 557626 , Reply# 10 11/18/2011 at 17:08 (4,536 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Combo's! Oh how I love them! | ||
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Post# 557629 , Reply# 11 11/18/2011 at 17:15 (4,536 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Lady Kenmore 1965 | ||
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Post# 557632 , Reply# 12 11/18/2011 at 17:27 (4,536 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Gas Duo 1954 | ||
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Post# 557633 , Reply# 13 11/18/2011 at 17:31 (4,536 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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General Electric 1957 | ||
| Post# 557635 , Reply# 14 11/18/2011 at 17:33 (4,536 days old) by westingman123 () | ||
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I like that GE ad, but tell me--is that an end table IN THE BATHROOM? How Madison Avenue! | ||
| Post# 557637 , Reply# 15 11/18/2011 at 17:57 (4,536 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA) | ||
Philco | ||
| Post# 557914 , Reply# 16 11/19/2011 at 21:46 (4,535 days old) by Jsneaker () | ||
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What happened to the Norge WD-Combo photo? I cannot seem to find those great photos of the Norge Washer-Dryer Combo that was posted in one of the threads. Would someone please help me find it? Thanks! Jason | ||
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Post# 557922 , Reply# 18 11/19/2011 at 22:16 (4,535 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Norge 1961? | ||
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Post# 557923 , Reply# 19 11/19/2011 at 22:32 (4,535 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Norge Combo! | ||
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Post# 557926 , Reply# 20 11/19/2011 at 23:38 (4,535 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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 Neighbors 3 houses away from us had a Norge Combo. I only visited their house once, maybe twice at the most. They were transferred back to California mot too soon after this particular visit I do vividly remember. So that was probably I only got to see it once or maybe twice. I had to have been somewhere between the age of 7 and 9. It reminded me of the 20 pound front loaders I'd seen at the Norge Cleaning Village we'd go to for dry cleaning and such. While my parents and neighbors visited or played bridge, I'd go into the laundry room and open the door and spin the tub around and play washing machine. But I wasn't tall enough to see the control panel very well at all. They also had a KDS14 VariCycle in the kitchen. That was most memorable in and of itself too. The racks reminded so much of our Waste King in some ways. But I remeber thinking how much bigger the spray arm was than in our WK. also, the 3 buttons were various colors as opposed to the WK's white buttons with black lettering. As I think back on it now, the housewife sure was nice to let me just go back and forth between that combo and the KA. they had one baby at the time and I never did forget their last name. | ||
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Post# 558117 , Reply# 21 11/20/2011 at 16:17 (4,534 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Norge Combo! | ||
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Post# 558118 , Reply# 22 11/20/2011 at 16:18 (4,534 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Norge Combo!! | ||
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Post# 558120 , Reply# 23 11/20/2011 at 16:19 (4,534 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Norge Combo!!! | ||
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Post# 558202 , Reply# 24 11/20/2011 at 23:55 (4,534 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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GREAT posts guys.... keep-um coming! | ||
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Post# 558203 , Reply# 25 11/20/2011 at 23:57 (4,534 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Post# 558205 , Reply# 26 11/20/2011 at 23:58 (4,534 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Post# 558207 , Reply# 27 11/21/2011 at 00:00 (4,534 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Post# 558208 , Reply# 28 11/21/2011 at 00:02 (4,534 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Post# 558209 , Reply# 29 11/21/2011 at 00:06 (4,534 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Full-Frontal | ||
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Post# 558211 , Reply# 30 11/21/2011 at 00:10 (4,534 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Post# 558212 , Reply# 31 11/21/2011 at 00:12 (4,534 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Post# 558213 , Reply# 32 11/21/2011 at 00:17 (4,534 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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| Post# 558216 , Reply# 33 11/21/2011 at 02:58 (4,533 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA) | ||
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Post# 558249 , Reply# 34 11/21/2011 at 07:28 (4,533 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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How does that work | ||
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Post# 558416 , Reply# 36 11/21/2011 at 21:30 (4,533 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Archives! | ||
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Post# 558622 , Reply# 37 11/22/2011 at 20:27 (4,532 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i) |
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Post# 558826 , Reply# 41 11/23/2011 at 17:55 (4,531 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i) |
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| Post# 558965 , Reply# 44 11/24/2011 at 13:01 (4,530 days old) by sharples () | ||
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My Combo Philco YAY 
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| Post# 558966 , Reply# 45 11/24/2011 at 13:02 (4,530 days old) by sharples () | ||
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another combo of mine YAY 
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Post# 558977 , Reply# 46 11/24/2011 at 14:32 (4,530 days old) by hydralique (Los Angeles) |
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Sharples . . . Your first pic is obviously a Duomatic, but is the second a Philco as well? Looks late '60s to me, a very handsome machine! Do you notice much difference in performance between the two? | ||
| Post# 559012 , Reply# 47 11/24/2011 at 21:50 (4,530 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
Graham | ||
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Post# 559013 , Reply# 48 11/24/2011 at 21:59 (4,530 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Philco Bendix! | ||
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Post# 559014 , Reply# 49 11/24/2011 at 22:01 (4,530 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 559057 , Reply# 50 11/25/2011 at 08:17 (4,529 days old) by JETCONE (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Graham we both have the same combo | ||
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Post# 559138 , Reply# 52 11/25/2011 at 13:13 (4,529 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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Fun thread!
I never realized that there were so many combo washers. But I have never seen one in person, so they must not have sold nearly as well as separate washers and dryers. Was also interested to read in the Consumer Reports archives here that the Bendix Duomatic used more water for drying (30 gallons) than most modern front loader washers use for a couple of big loads! | ||
| Post# 559140 , Reply# 53 11/25/2011 at 13:29 (4,529 days old) by aquarius8000 () | ||
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I have had experince with one combo, a hotpoint WD61. love all the others. Chris. 
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Post# 559146 , Reply# 54 11/25/2011 at 13:42 (4,529 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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Post# 559266 , Reply# 56 11/26/2011 at 00:00 (4,529 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 559267 , Reply# 57 11/26/2011 at 00:01 (4,529 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 559268 , Reply# 58 11/26/2011 at 00:03 (4,529 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 559286 , Reply# 59 11/26/2011 at 04:27 (4,528 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain) |
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1965 bendix lt washer dryer uk
this is my daily driver and has been in use for 10 years , its great, it has vented drying though, and is similar to Sharples Philco in size i believe.
Great thread thanks Richard CLICK HERE TO GO TO ricky5050's LINK 
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Post# 559524 , Reply# 61 11/26/2011 at 22:08 (4,528 days old) by Revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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A teaser shot... almost | ||
| Post# 559538 , Reply# 62 11/26/2011 at 23:17 (4,528 days old) by lebron (Minnesota) | ||
^^GE Combo | ||
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Post# 559551 , Reply# 63 11/27/2011 at 00:09 (4,528 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain) |
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Hi Revin Kevin and Sharples | ||
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Post# 559555 , Reply# 64 11/27/2011 at 00:29 (4,528 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain) |
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tv ad for uk combo 1988
heres a ad for a hotpoint washer dryer, this was removed i believe after a child climbed in a dryer and died, although that may be an urban myth (the ad being removed i mean )
Richard ps check out http://youtube.com/user/Hasszanussi he has a fab assortment of tv ads CLICK HERE TO GO TO ricky5050's LINK | ||
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Post# 559559 , Reply# 65 11/27/2011 at 00:35 (4,528 days old) by Revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Hi Richard,
This is not my combo (unfortunately) so I can't take any more photos of it (it's across the country). But here is a closer up of the control panel. I hope it helps!
Kevin 
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Post# 559611 , Reply# 66 11/27/2011 at 05:03 (4,527 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain) |
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no dispenser as such | ||
| Post# 559737 , Reply# 67 11/27/2011 at 15:05 (4,527 days old) by wireman (Lansing, MI) | ||
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Post# 559764 , Reply# 68 11/27/2011 at 16:45 (4,527 days old) by Revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Since the "cat is out of the bag".... | ||
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Post# 560367 , Reply# 70 11/30/2011 at 09:10 (4,524 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.) |
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Has anyone seen a Kenmore Combo that looks like this | ||
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Post# 560370 , Reply# 72 11/30/2011 at 09:22 (4,524 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.) |
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Thanks for the info Tom | ||
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Post# 560614 , Reply# 73 12/1/2011 at 11:14 (4,523 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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A real, actual, NORGE! | ||
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Post# 560679 , Reply# 74 12/1/2011 at 17:15 (4,523 days old) by Easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC) |
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Here's my Duomatic . . . . . . I think it's a 1959. It does exactly what it's supposed to do. Jerry Gay 
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Post# 560680 , Reply# 75 12/1/2011 at 17:15 (4,523 days old) by Easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC) |
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Here's the washer dial Jerry Gay 
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Post# 560681 , Reply# 76 12/1/2011 at 17:16 (4,523 days old) by Easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC) |
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And here's the dryer dial Jerry Gay 
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| Post# 560702 , Reply# 77 12/1/2011 at 19:48 (4,523 days old) by bendixmark (Winchester Mass) | ||
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Kenmore Combo and Bendix Combo I saw a kenmore combo like that at the Winchester dump in the 80s but couldnt take it because my truck was full.When I was four a neighbor who did my mothers hair had that Bendix in her basement shop and i used to watch it run .One of my best childhood memories... | ||
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Post# 560769 , Reply# 78 12/2/2011 at 05:34 (4,522 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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Jerry, How long does your 27" Philco Duomatic take to dry a load of towels or a mixed cotton load? Thanks. | ||
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Post# 560791 , Reply# 80 12/2/2011 at 08:08 (4,522 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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Jerry, Thank you for the information. When Consumer's Research tested this machine they said it took a very long time to dry and when I looked at the dry timer, I could see that it could not even be set for more than 80 or 90 minutes so I was very curious. Thanks again. | ||
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Post# 560805 , Reply# 81 12/2/2011 at 10:12 (4,522 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Bendix Combo! | ||
| Post# 560807 , Reply# 82 12/2/2011 at 10:46 (4,522 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
Gary, that's a great front-load center you have there | ||
| Post# 560814 , Reply# 84 12/2/2011 at 12:03 (4,522 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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HI TOM The Westy coin-ops at Chrystal Beach, Ontario did a flush rinse after the tumble drain when, as a boy, I was privileged to take the laundry there when we rented a cottage every summer for a few weeks. It was bliss watching them work. It seems as though the Norge has an extra trick up her sleeve with the spray rinse during the spin, agile little girl that she promises to be. Other tricks too, perhaps, unless some of it is ad hype. I think I read about 5 rinse maneuvers.
OOPS: edit error, thought I was in Marty's thread. This post was last edited 12/02/2011 at 13:00 | ||
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Post# 561323 , Reply# 86 12/5/2011 at 15:38 (4,519 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain) |
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How to get topless
Hi jerry gay
On mine a uk model you use a slim metal blade ie metal ruler or fish slice and push it in the gap between the front and the top panel not to prise it up but to release a metal clip don't use a screw driver or any thing thick it will crack and chip the enamel , there may be screws at the back of yours but mine is a tuck under the control panel type. Lift off and you squeeze the soap Shute out off it's connection to the drum. When re fixing you may have to remove a soap guard to fix it back in to the drum If you watch my video clip at about 18 seconds the camera pulls back to show the full machine with top removed you can just see a small black metal clip on the front edge this is what your pushing back This is only a guess yours may be different so please check the gap with a flashlight and don't force anything good luck and please post some topless pics !! Richard CLICK HERE TO GO TO ricky5050's LINK | ||
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Post# 561830 , Reply# 88 12/7/2011 at 22:37 (4,517 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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And Lady makes three........ | ||
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Post# 561837 , Reply# 89 12/7/2011 at 23:16 (4,517 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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Thanks for these pics & this thread! And also worthy of ment
Looks like the woodgrain front/coppertone body is a take on Whirlpool doing that w/ their washers & dryers (available in coppertone & avocado) that year, too!
Great pics & if I may, quote Charles Klamkin in saying that "the concept of washing & drying in the same machine is a sad history, as there had been many class-action suits & customer's complaints & manufacturers' inabilities to compound service problems had led to the demise of an otherwise worthwhile appliance", or something to that effect, as in his 1973 book, Klamkin lightly goes over "Combination washers & dryers", of which at the time only GE & Kenmore had been making them, but cites how their reliability is questionable, in addition to them being "expensive to buy & costly to maintain", while mentioning Philco/Bendix had built a sound machine before abandoning the laundry business altogether... His other book from 1970, IF IT DOESN'T WORK, READ THE INSTRUCTIONS goes over them in the same fashion, and I agree, that this design really needs to be more universally tried today... -- Dave | ||
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Post# 561882 , Reply# 90 12/8/2011 at 07:04 (4,516 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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COMBINATION WASHER-DRYER PROBLEMS Charles Klamkin [ who ever the hell he is ] doesn't sound like he had much of a handle on combos at the end of thier run. No US combos were still in production in 1973 and we had many customers that often got 10 years at a time out of thier GEs and KMs with almost no service issues. I also never heard of any class action suits about these machines, there weren't even enough of any given brand to get much of a suit going, LOL. | ||
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Post# 561902 , Reply# 91 12/8/2011 at 08:11 (4,516 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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I wonder how many former non-combo people like me have now become converts. The WP, The Easy, The KM, GE, MT, And BX, and now the never seen HP. What's next?
Wishing I could convert the non-wringer people, then we'd have a group who liked all washers. Or maybe I'm just too easy.
Hope everyone has a good day. The sunshine here is brilliant, but our first big snow is expected tonight. | ||
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Post# 562015 , Reply# 94 12/8/2011 at 20:15 (4,516 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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HOW TO BUY MAJOR APPLIANCES:
The commentary on Combo's is a bit of "padding" in the "How to buy a dryer" section... Though it details the then-current introduction of Westinghouse Stacking models & Frigidaire's "Dual" deal...
OK, so no mention of Class Action Lawsuits on W/D combo's... I must'a read something like that somewhere else & not in this book, then: (Sorry!) -- Dave 
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Beautiful combos! Do anyone of you use one (or more) as a daily driver? | ||
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Post# 779509 , Reply# 96 8/26/2014 at 11:46 (3,524 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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A VERY RARE O'Keefe & Merritt combo!
This was discovered on eBay, then promptly snapped up by one of our own (who will reveal themselves soon I'm sure).
In the mean time I want to add photos of this very rare combo to this thread for posterity.
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Post# 779510 , Reply# 97 8/26/2014 at 11:57 (3,524 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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While I'm at it.....
A better photo of the also rare Norge WD-600 Combo.
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Two of Johns machines,a Duomatic and the Speed Queen,I found by accident. The Speed Queen was on Blair Rd. not far from his house. I'd see it on the way to his house but was on a train and couldn't stop so,I called and told him where it was. The Duomatic,if I.remember correctly,was in old Dundalk and was a bitch to move. I'm so glad Jon had the ability to get them.
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Post# 868363 , Reply# 100 2/22/2016 at 09:47 (2,979 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Mike, that is sort of correct.
Yes it had an air compressor, but it was used for 2 things.
1. It applies pressure to the spin clutches when it's time to spin.
2. It was used to spray / blow water into the 3 hollow baffles in the tub, to balance the load for spin. It was a pretty complex balancing system.
Once it achieved the proper balance, it would spin at 525 rpm, instead of the more "usual" 200 or so rpm for W/D combos, as the majority had NO suspension at all. These Lady K combos also have no suspension, but this balance system allowed a spin speed high enough to extract a decent amount of water.
Kevin
Here's a video of a '69 Lady K combo cycle, just into the dry.
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Vintage WD's
Hi ya'll,
I've got & had numerous vintage machines, between the late 1980's & 2000. I will provide snaps if you're interested later, as I'm popping out to the garage to film our recent 2015 AEG Lavamat Turbo Protex Washer Dryer. Catch up with photos later (25th). CJ P.S. I'll include the link to my FB group for those on FB who might want to join & peruse. CLICK HERE TO GO TO HooverZanMiele's LINK | ||
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Post# 1092219 , Reply# 103 10/6/2020 at 18:36 (1,291 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN) |
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Post# 1092226 , Reply# 104 10/6/2020 at 19:22 (1,291 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Post# 1092227 , Reply# 105 10/6/2020 at 19:40 (1,291 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Frigidaire never marketed a combo, but in all it's glory they sure did design a unique jet-action combo! Picture #2 is a scream lol!
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Post# 1092237 , Reply# 106 10/6/2020 at 21:55 (1,291 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Frigidaire Jet-Action combination Washer-Dryer I wonder if they built any working prototypes and from the looks of it they did not consider a gas one, LOL
Of corse FD, GE and Westinghouse did not make gas combinations or even gas dryers at all during the brief payday of combination washer-dryers in the US.
In any event this FD combination Washer-Dryer would be one cool machine. Did everyone see and understand how it used domestic water pressure to tilt and raise the tub with extra inlet valves to control this function ? And it was water condensing with no messy lint filter to clean or venting needed.
Very cool I wonder if a prototype is hiding somewhere to be found ?
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Post# 1092268 , Reply# 108 10/7/2020 at 09:53 (1,290 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Another GM Frigidaire Combo!
I've actually found several different patent designs that General Motors produced to create a combination washer-dryer. Here is another super cool design, it seems to use the Apex style tub nutation for wash and dry. I know the Apex turns over clothes in the tub without any water so I know the clothes will not only tumble this way but also will be pulled off the side of the tub after the final spin with dry nutation.
I would love to see these in action if a prototype was ever built! CLICK HERE TO GO TO Unimatic1140's LINK | ||
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Post# 1092518 , Reply# 109 10/9/2020 at 02:00 (1,288 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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I made one years ago And when I was working on that project, I had to dig and study several dusty drawings and tons of notes of both GM Frigidaires Robert posted above. This video shows the second generation of the same washer, now with Wi-FI controls and some upgrades. The 120v had a miserable drying performance (as expected) the 220V was a bit better, but not exactly very good with wrinkles. | ||
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Post# 1092532 , Reply# 110 10/9/2020 at 04:52 (1,288 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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Post# 1092664 , Reply# 113 10/10/2020 at 04:41 (1,287 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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Certainly not very efficient, but it would be very low cost, simple and long lasting. Forget the supposed politics. China does a lot of stuff the west would never think of and truth be they are happily reaping the reward.
I've been thinking of such a machine for a long time and the idea appeals to me more each day. | ||
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Post# 1092667 , Reply# 114 10/10/2020 at 05:23 (1,287 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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A topload H-axis washer, a spin dryer and then back to the washer for drying in the same drum has been done before. Constructa had a topload combo in the 1960's or 1970's.
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Post# 1092668 , Reply# 115 10/10/2020 at 05:24 (1,287 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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Think of it like this. An inner and outer tub with no suspension system and no concrete weights, 16 pole PSC reversing motor, a heater for both heating the water and drying, blower and a rear air channel. It doesn't get any simpler than that.
Up to 45 minutes of fill and tumble- time determines temperature and heavy vs light/delicate. Drain and tumble- 3 minutes Rinse- 3 minutes Drain and tumble- 3 minutes Rinse- 3 minutes Drain and tumble- 3 minutes Rinse- 3 minutes Drain and tumble- 12 minutes Heat, blow, tumble- 60 minutes Timer with 85-90 increments, each 90 seconds. Might need an extra rinse. Temperature dependent timer advance during the dry is a good idea. | ||
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Post# 1092670 , Reply# 116 10/10/2020 at 05:58 (1,287 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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You can only dry half a load compared to the load you have been washing, that's so for every combo. Bigger combo's were never filled all the way to the top. For laundry that hasn't been put through a spin cycle you probably need way more drying time. You can experiment with this in your own washer with a load of towels. Don't spin them, let them sit for a while and then put them in your dryer.
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Post# 1092672 , Reply# 117 10/10/2020 at 06:15 (1,287 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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"Drain and tumble- 12 minutes" You would still have dripping wet clothes. Drying times would be long as a certain part of my husband's anatomy. And it it's 120V... Gosh... forget... 4x hours to dry at approx 1500W heating element. | ||
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Post# 1092680 , Reply# 118 10/10/2020 at 08:33 (1,287 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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????? Chelsea, Why aren't you working as an appliance engineer ?
All he great ideas you keep coming up with, Washer-dryer combos that don't spin,
Ovens without thermostats,
Adding expensive troublesome drain valves to simple DWs that have one built-in,
I guess next you will come up with a clothes dryer that does not tumble and does not use a fan, you could just hang things a box with holes cut in it and the heat of the light bulb will dry everything,
But you wouldn't even need a timer for the light bulb. as it would just burnout about the time the dripping wet clothes dryer, LOL
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Post# 1092681 , Reply# 119 10/10/2020 at 08:40 (1,287 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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Post# 1092683 , Reply# 120 10/10/2020 at 08:58 (1,287 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 1092685 , Reply# 121 10/10/2020 at 09:02 (1,287 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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Triggered
Combo, I can tell you're triggered (yet again) by another member expressing his views on this site. When called out about it you behave for a few days to a few weeks, then it happens all over again.
I'd love to build some pro-types, but I'm involved with codes/standards along with power systems which in of itself is another world all on its own. The green diaphragm Kitchen-Aid dishwasher valve (heck even the not so bad one I linked to) is on orders of magnitude better than a solenoid which runs throughout the whole cycle holding down a flapper which deforms and sometimes gets stuck partially open from seeds or debris. GE widened their drain ports on their post shaded pole pump bodies for this exact reason. Flapper mechanisms just suck. Holding half a gallon of water in the sump and pump body is asinine but guess what it actually happened... A separate drain valve along with a washable fine filter would have been the way to go on those WH machines. There is nothing simple about what Westinghouse thought of by any stretch of the imagination. Ovens without T stats. Fun mental exercise in thermal dynamics especially considering its been done in the past and still done in low cost Chinese ovens. Hint, PTC heaters help. Combos that don't spin- its worth the idea if cost ever came about. US combos didn't have a real spin, and for decades some front loads didn't even spin between wash and rinse. Heck, I could try a dryer that uses a vacuum pump to boil the water out of garments but its just to complex and expensive to peruse relative to tumble options. I once built a box with 2 200 watt light bulbs and a shaded pole fan for drying shoes, sneakers and umbrellas. Guess what, it worked! | ||
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Post# 1092686 , Reply# 122 10/10/2020 at 09:04 (1,287 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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Post# 1092688 , Reply# 123 10/10/2020 at 09:19 (1,287 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Roughly | ||
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Post# 1092692 , Reply# 124 10/10/2020 at 09:36 (1,287 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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Post# 1092740 , Reply# 126 10/10/2020 at 15:17 (1,287 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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I'm working on a countertop Hatl washer combo that doesn't spin. Basically redesigning a Scirocco washer to improve its capacity, efficiency and performance, also reduce the noise level. It will dry, but you have to spin the load and it will have a manual interlock to never start drying auto.atically after the wash and rinse cycles are done. | ||
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Post# 1092751 , Reply# 127 10/10/2020 at 16:20 (1,287 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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I know your thinking about 120, but I'm thinking about 240 volts 30 amps. A full size economy model.
Mad respect for making the Niagra, especially using what appears like red and yellow for the motor wiring <3. I see what you did there and I like it! Regarding those ovens in Brazil, don't hold back on talking about them ;) | ||
| Post# 1092794 , Reply# 128 10/10/2020 at 23:08 (1,287 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
Now this is a question I have about the Whirlpool and Kenmore combos of the mid to late 60’s. Did they use some sort of flap/damper to close off the exhaust fan? I imagine so to prevent water from getting into the blower/fan housing. Never seen what the exhaust fan looks like on those combo units but I imagine it’s a lot like the one on my ‘63 Whirlpool Imperial dryer and the lint screen is definitely on the top from what I have seen.
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Post# 1092821 , Reply# 129 10/11/2020 at 09:10 (1,286 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Exhaust Blower On WP Built 29" Combinations Hi Sean, It is a similar set-up to what your 63 WP has except that everything is much better built and designed to handle water.
The original design, no lint filter [ 1961-63 ] the fan ran all the time and when the machine filled some of the water blasted into the center of the fan.
The later design the fan only ran when the machine was drying also had two ports that water filled through the blower housing to keep it clean when ever the machine was filling for wash or rinses.
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