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Well, the 8-year old Calypso died the other day...So here's my new daily driver:
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Post# 557577   11/18/2011 at 11:51 (4,514 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        

This actually was at the request of my wife...

I also found out why it wasn't going into 1010 Rapidry Spin, the off-balance switch was stuck!

It's amazing, the 1967 Frigidaire WCIL outlasts the 2003 Kenmore. I love it!





Post# 557593 , Reply# 1   11/18/2011 at 12:52 (4,514 days old) by BrianL (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
That is funny!

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I don't know how these new appliances equal going green lol.

Post# 557596 , Reply# 2   11/18/2011 at 12:58 (4,514 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
No surprise !

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Davy, haven't seen the square clock and the slider switch on the 67 Custom Imperials. Any chance you could do a close-up?

I'm sure everyone would love it. Thanks.


Post# 557606 , Reply# 3   11/18/2011 at 13:57 (4,514 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

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Look at that panel! Enough switches to launch the space shuttle. Love to be able to read the silkscreen.

Post# 557609 , Reply# 4   11/18/2011 at 14:32 (4,514 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        

Mickeyd - sure. I'll take some better pictures this evening or tomorrow with my Nikon D3100. I love the offset timer on this model. If you notice, the knob is below the dial (which looks like a clock). This model had the usual preprogrammed cycles (left side) and cycle modifiers (right side) which allowed for cold wash, rinse, soak, etc. This was the top of the line for 1967. It also had an automatic detergent and fabric softener under the little lid on the far left. Oh yeah...and the panel lights up...I just didn't have it on for these pictures.

Post# 557639 , Reply# 5   11/18/2011 at 18:01 (4,513 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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And the variable water level!!!


Post# 557723 , Reply# 6   11/19/2011 at 01:43 (4,513 days old) by washer-kid ()        

Awesome washer ....growing up we had a 1968 Frigidaire set that lasted until 1987!

Love the panel on your washer!


Post# 557920 , Reply# 7   11/19/2011 at 22:07 (4,512 days old) by Jsneaker ()        
Beautiful machine!





Post# 558624 , Reply# 8   11/22/2011 at 20:30 (4,509 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i)        

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Frankly, I'm surprised the 2003 Kenmore lasted as long as it did!

Post# 558629 , Reply# 9   11/22/2011 at 21:01 (4,509 days old) by JETCONE (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Thats one georgeous

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Frigidaire Davy!! Yes close up with lights pUH LEEZE!

 


Post# 558645 , Reply# 10   11/22/2011 at 22:06 (4,509 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        
Sorry for the delay.....here they are!

Here are the cycle and options buttons....

Post# 558646 , Reply# 11   11/22/2011 at 22:07 (4,509 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        

The timer.....

Post# 558647 , Reply# 12   11/22/2011 at 22:09 (4,509 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        

the laundry aids cover...

Post# 558648 , Reply# 13   11/22/2011 at 22:11 (4,509 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        

Laundry aids cover open....

Post# 558650 , Reply# 14   11/22/2011 at 22:12 (4,509 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        

the deep action agitator....

Post# 558651 , Reply# 15   11/22/2011 at 22:15 (4,509 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        
and last, but by no means least....

the lighted control panel....

Post# 558653 , Reply# 16   11/22/2011 at 22:26 (4,509 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        
Water level switch

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I remember someone talking about water level switches on solid tub washers... How does this one work? From what I remember, it diverts some water into a container that it can measure the level on? I feel like that was for a Speed Queen machine but I can't remember!

Post# 558656 , Reply# 17   11/22/2011 at 22:50 (4,509 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
pretty '67 frigidaire

just awesome washer!-they don't make them like they used to...

Post# 558677 , Reply# 18   11/23/2011 at 01:39 (4,509 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Totally Loaded Rapidry 1000

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What a beautiful machine and one of the best colors too.
So where did you get this machine and what is its history?
So glad to hear your wife is a fan too!




Post# 558680 , Reply# 19   11/23/2011 at 03:28 (4,509 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

I really love the "O" in the cycle pointer.. very "Googie" styled. That's kind of surprising for a 1967 vintage machine.

This is an absolutely beautiful machine. Wish I had one. :)

Glad to hear all that was wrong with it was something very minor.



Post# 558692 , Reply# 20   11/23/2011 at 05:33 (4,509 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Wow, that's a beautiful machine! It has a great combination of features, cycles, etc. My Frigidaire envy is back, LOL!

Post# 558696 , Reply# 21   11/23/2011 at 06:20 (4,509 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Jamie, you are correct. The fill is known as "metered fill" and because of it, the machine cannot pump out during agitation like the timed fill models do therefore the overflow rinse is abbreviated to the last couple of timer increments in the deep rinse instead of the whole rinse like in timed fill machines so that too much water does not accumulate in the outer tub before the spin/drain. Also, unlike the time fill machines, all of the wash water has to be pumped out of the machine to empty that little metering container (sometimes referred to as a collector basin) before the washer can stop spinning and start filling for rinse. If water remains in the container, the machine will not fill with the proper amount of water. In the time fill machines, the spin after the wash did not have to be long enough to pump out all of the water because as soon as the machine started agitating in the rinse, it resumed pumping out water.

Post# 558708 , Reply# 22   11/23/2011 at 08:06 (4,509 days old) by JETCONE (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
I forgot these had the

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second rinse option! So necessary today when using LG products!!!!

 

10 points for you Davy! Sweet machine!

Jamie, I have doctrine on the metered fill buried somewhere in the archives, I'll look for it after T-Day.

 

jon

 


Post# 558728 , Reply# 23   11/23/2011 at 09:28 (4,509 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Drop Dead Gorgeous Washer ! Just look at her!

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Knew something was up with that water level switch. Never knew the solid tub Frigi's had a variable water level. It was either Normal Load or Small Load with Small cutting all cycle time periods in half. Simply Amazing. The Wash & Soak button--love it--and also the clock marrked " Extra Rinse CYCLE"--how cool is that.

Thanks so much for these, Davy, and Happy Thanksgiving.


Post# 558729 , Reply# 24   11/23/2011 at 09:31 (4,509 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        
So, here's the story......

One of my fellow firefighers said that he had an old washer in his basement that he needed to get rid of. He knew I liked tinkering with mechanical things and asked if I would like it. I asked him what brand it was, but he wasn't sure. I went over with my nephew, since he has a truck, and discovered it was a 1959 Frigidaire Custom Imperial (Multimatic). I near passed out. Took it home and replaced the two belts and it sprang to life. I posted pictures on AW.org which piqued Rich (Trainguy)'s interest. He had the matching dryer for the '59 and asked if I was interested in a trade. He sent me pictures of the '67 and I fell in love as I remember this machine from my childhood. Our neighbors had this model. Rich made the trip from Pittsburg and we made the trade, followed by dinner and discussion. I replaced the rollers and cleaned it up a bit, fixed the timer (the contacts were pitted), replaced the pump shaft seal and recently adjusted the off-balance switch. The machine resided in my garage as a rag and coverall washer for a while. When the Calypso died, my wife suggested we put the Frigidaire in it's place until we can find a replacement.

So...last night I decided to do an autopsy on the Calypso. I found two things:
1) there was a sandwich bag stuck in the pump (how the f$%k did that get in there?)
2) the wash plate doesn't level itself out before spinning. It tries to, but fails, which leads me to believe the little universal joints are shot. It also sounds like something is sliding around under the wash plate (coins, etc.)

We went to Sears and bought the Samsung toploader (window lid, of course) and the matching steam dryer. It has a "Rapidry" 1000rpm spin and some other nice things, but won't be deivered until 12/7, so the Rollermatic has a few weeks of laundry to do until it's returned to the garage.


Post# 558738 , Reply# 25   11/23/2011 at 10:05 (4,509 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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If the wash plate nutates without excess noise or jamming then the u-joint may technically be OK.  Problem could be the leveler, which is a separate little gizmo that mounts on the drive shaft under the dome and tilts the plate for nutation or levels it for spin.  If your machine is otherwise in OK condition and you're planning to trash it ... I'd take it and do the repair, except it's too far from here to fetch.

There's a quarter or some such been loose in mine under the wash plate for a year or so, rattles and rolls.


Post# 558741 , Reply# 26   11/23/2011 at 10:09 (4,509 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        

do I need that funky special tool to access it?

Post# 558752 , Reply# 27   11/23/2011 at 10:45 (4,509 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Not for the leveler.  Pop off the outer dome, remove the bolts that anchor the wash plate, lift the plate and inner dome off.  The leveler will either come off with the dome (stuck inside it) or be left atop the shaft.  The u-joint does not need to come off (it's anchored to the shaft by the basket spanner nut).  Removing the inner dome will allow inspection of the u-joint.  Repair specs state that the six grommets under the wash plate bolts (atop the u-joint) must be replaced whenever disassembled, but I don't know how crucial is that.  Note that the wash plate won't fit out of the basket unless the tub ring and balance ring are removed first.


Post# 558787 , Reply# 28   11/23/2011 at 13:48 (4,509 days old) by Autowasherfreak ()        

Cool washer! I'm not shocked that it lasted longer than the new Kenmore.


Post# 558841 , Reply# 29   11/23/2011 at 19:33 (4,508 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        


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I love that beautiful Frigidaire!  Could someone explain to me how it does not pump out during agitation like the rest of them do.  I'd be interested to know the mechanics of how it does that.


Post# 558842 , Reply# 30   11/23/2011 at 19:34 (4,508 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

WP told us that if you ever remove the dome, you must use a new gasket when replacing it otherwise the seal is imperfect ahd water ruins the u-joint.

Post# 558854 , Reply# 31   11/23/2011 at 20:48 (4,508 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Tom, the thing is there is no gasket as such for the inner dome on the "new" design as there is on the old.  Just the six bolt grommets and the pink o-ring on the basket hub under the u-joint (which doesn't get disturbed if just the inner dome is removed).  There is a thin foam piece that goes on the u-joint atop the six grommets and under the rim of the dome, but it's not available as a separate item and also is not included in the seal kit (o-ring and six grommets) far as I've seen ... so I've not been clear on what purposes the foam piece serves.  Is it a required "seal" for the inner dome on the updated design?  How does one get a replacement of it?


Post# 558864 , Reply# 32   11/23/2011 at 22:12 (4,508 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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davy, what was very ahead of its time with this machine is that when the extra rinse option is selected, the fabric softner won't be dispensed until the 2nd rinse.  Also, the button mechanisms are very fragile--a source of many of these failing-so push gently.


Post# 558930 , Reply# 33   11/24/2011 at 08:58 (4,508 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        

the other nite my wife put it through it's paces. Comforters, jeans, etc. It spun dried the clothes drier than the Calypso ever did!

Yeah, Appnut... I can understand how, with age, those buttons can become brittle and fail, care is always used with that machine.

I can only assume that this machine is currently, at 44 years old, working as well as it did when it left the factory in Dayton.

Is there way from the serial number to determine the actual date of manufacture?

Dave


Post# 558964 , Reply# 34   11/24/2011 at 12:50 (4,508 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        
Date it,

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Yes there is a way.  Follow this link Smile



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Post# 559041 , Reply# 35   11/25/2011 at 05:04 (4,507 days old) by wigwag (San Diego)        
this model

So this is a 67? I think this was the exact washer my grandparents had in their summer condo in Palm Springs before the maid over loaded it and it was replaced by a 76 whirlpool. How many years did they have a control panel like this? I'd love to see a set like they had again, theirs were avocado!

Post# 559056 , Reply# 36   11/25/2011 at 08:10 (4,507 days old) by JETCONE (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Davy

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Let us know what that new LG does. Does it fill with water and slosh around like the cool toy at HomoDepot?? Or does it just spray the clothes and turn round and round. I'd also like to know if you and your wife feel the Frigidaire is doing a better job of rinsing than the old Calypso or the next LG.

 

Jon


Post# 559081 , Reply# 37   11/25/2011 at 09:33 (4,507 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        
Joelippard...

I don't think that link is accurate...it is saying that it could have been manufactured between 1973 and 1983. Way off! However Frigidaire made a WCIL model in the 1-18 format back then too.

Wigwag, if I'm not mistaken this was the only year for this control panel. The '65 and '66 models had a round timer and the '67 had the rectangular one. 1968 saw the control panel with the non-offset timer knob and dial.

Jetcone, we bought a Samsung, not an LG but they look pretty similar on the inside. I haven't even seen a video on what the wash action is like, but you can be sure I'll post a video when it gets here :-)

Oh, the serial number on my WCIL is 30VD 8466, if anyone can help decipher that. Being that I see a "66" in the serial number makes me believe it was produced late that year for a '67 introduction.

Oh, Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!!!!!!

Dave



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