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Pre-Holiday Maytag Reverse Rack Wash Load
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Post# 558855   11/23/2011 at 21:02 (4,527 days old) by bwoods ()        

Traded out the GSD2800 for the Maytag RR, for the Holidays. The Maytag Reverse racking system is the great for holding large pots and pans. Here are two roasters, with lids for both (the lid for the one in the lower rack is on the right side, you can only see a corner of it) and a glass baking dish plus a few plates and bowls.

Had a load of pre-Thankgiving dishes and pots I thought I'd break the Maytag in with.

Had to turn the hot water tank up as this is a near bottom of the line Maytag (WU242)and does not heat its own water, where the GE did. Turned it up so the water entering the machine is just a little over 140 degrees. Hope this is hot enough.





Post# 558857 , Reply# 1   11/23/2011 at 21:14 (4,527 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
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Nice - I bet all will come clean especially if you have good hot water.
It does look like you are blocking the tower
Can we get a control panel view.
Thanks,
Peter


Post# 558859 , Reply# 2   11/23/2011 at 21:31 (4,527 days old) by bwoods ()        

Here is a full frontal view for you. I checked, the roaster is almost touching the tower, but not quite. They are washing right now, I'll see if all comes clean in 140 degree water. May have to turn it a little higher.

Post# 558863 , Reply# 3   11/23/2011 at 21:59 (4,527 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
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Real nice I think 140 will do the trick. I remember I knew 2 families that had the 300 series from the early 80's and with the good hot water their was no problem!

Post# 558870 , Reply# 4   11/23/2011 at 22:54 (4,527 days old) by bwoods ()        

done!

Post# 558873 , Reply# 5   11/23/2011 at 22:59 (4,527 days old) by bwoods ()        
Wishing All of you a Happy Thanksgiving tomorrow!!

I am going to bed now, and will unload the Maytag in the morning. Wishing all of you a great Thanksgiving!!

Hope you are able to have a wonderful day with your family and/or friends.


Post# 558879 , Reply# 6   11/23/2011 at 23:24 (4,527 days old) by retropia ()        
Question

Does your Maytag have the heated air drying? If so, did you use it on this load, and did the plastic container in the bottom rack come out dry?


Post# 558924 , Reply# 7   11/24/2011 at 07:58 (4,527 days old) by bwoods ()        

Yes, Doug it has a power blower. The heated dry can be turned on or off by pulling out or pushing in the timer knob. The blower comes on during the dry cycle whether the heating element is on or off.

I had the heated dry on and yes, the tupperware was dry. If I had the heating element off, I imagine it still would be wet, even with the fan. This picture was taken as soon as the cycle ended and the dishes were too hot to the touch.

When the heated dry is on, the heating element comes on maybe five minutes or so before the blower kicks in. One of the coolest things is to watch the dishwasher when the fan first kicks in and a stream of steam comes blowing out of the air vent, under the control panel for about 20 seconds as the machine exhausts the pent up steam from the tub. It's not like some dishwashers, where you see whisps of steam leisurely come out, but this is a little jet stream.


Post# 558950 , Reply# 8   11/24/2011 at 10:19 (4,527 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Barry nice machine !
This summer I got one for Mike ( dishwashercrazy ) the same model.
That machine sure does have a powerful spray system !
How did the load come out ?
Did you bake a turkey in that roaster pan and was it greasy ?

Peter here is a control panel shot in a video.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone !
Turn those Dishwashers ON !

Darren k



Post# 559015 , Reply# 9   11/24/2011 at 22:01 (4,526 days old) by bwoods ()        

the machine you bought, Darren, looks like new! Good find.

One of the roasters had a ham baked in it, so it was somewhat greasy but nothing burnt on. Not too much of a challenge for the machine and it came out clean.

Did you remove the lower wash arm and the round cover underneath? Here you will find thae self-cleaning filter. Mine had some calcium buikd-up on it, as the previous owner apparently hard water. A little soaking in Lime-Away cleaned it up like new. It really increased the wash action, as it could now pump more water through the clean filter.


Post# 559019 , Reply# 10   11/24/2011 at 22:35 (4,526 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
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Barry - did you get to wash another Thanksgiving load in the Maytag?



Post# 559068 , Reply# 11   11/25/2011 at 09:10 (4,526 days old) by bwoods ()        

Oh yes! It got everything clean, so I guess 140 degrees is a sufficient water temp. I havae been using Finish Powerball tablests for detergent and they seem to work well. Another residual load, from last night, waiting to be washed now.

How did your Thanksgiving washload go, Peter?



Post# 559085 , Reply# 12   11/25/2011 at 09:38 (4,526 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
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I didnt get to do dishes. I went to Staten Island to my cousins house and they had it catered with all paper goods. (sad)
Hope you enjoyed!
Peter


Post# 559134 , Reply# 13   11/25/2011 at 12:52 (4,526 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Catered With or Without Paper & Plastic

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Seems to be the way more and more are going these days!

Some of our family in the South did it, and heard many in the area went that way as well. Dinner yesterday was paper but the *good* stainless was hauled out. Coffee/cake was same.

Who wants to wash all those dishes? Even with automatic dishwashers the cost of water and power (especially in NYC) is becoming dear. I mean if it's just a small group one supposes it doesn't matter, but once you start going >10 or so it's much eaiser to go with paper plates.

My cousin hit upon the idea several years ago of stocking up on those styrofoam containers fast food and other places use. For any family event that involves people taking home a *plate* .....


Post# 559622 , Reply# 14   11/27/2011 at 06:02 (4,524 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Barry I got that dishwaseher for Mike at habitat for humanity.

It was in great shape, Mike washed the sump out just a little brown in one corner ..nothing much to be concerned about.

There was no calcium deposits in the or around the wash modual.

I would like to see a big dirty load in your machine , for I did not have a chance to make a load at Mike's place.

Hope you had a nice thanksging.

 

Peter & laundress ...

I gag at the fact when peaple use paper plates at a nice function.

I mean like family dinners.

Paper plates are nice to use when you want a platter to take home , but give me dishes at the table.

There was a nice set up with friends and family this year... But..lol..hold on..

 

Barry here's a pic of the Maytag sump after cleaning... very little dust and some browning cleaned up great !

 

 

 

 


Post# 559623 , Reply# 15   11/27/2011 at 06:04 (4,524 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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With Racks.


Post# 559625 , Reply# 16   11/27/2011 at 06:10 (4,524 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Dinner Table.

What do you know plates and Glasses.

You would thank with a washer mind wow can't wait to wash those dishes..

It was a nice dinner.


Post# 559626 , Reply# 17   11/27/2011 at 06:19 (4,524 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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NOT !

 

My friend put me out of the kitchen they no me for taking over the kicthen with the dishwasher ...

Not this year lol ...

John took over and told me to get out ....HURT feelings lol..

Ok this is why he does not like me in there...

 

Freakin ...RINSED DISHES !!!

 

I thank I rather have the paper plates.

 

Not only did he rinsed them he washed them with a SPONGE. eeeeeeeeeek !

 

 A whirlpool Sheer clean wash system tall tub.

Go figure.

 

Darren k


Post# 559628 , Reply# 18   11/27/2011 at 06:22 (4,524 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Pic 2. Why just not put them away lol.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Darren k


Post# 560246 , Reply# 19   11/29/2011 at 18:28 (4,521 days old) by bwoods ()        

Daren,

You Maytag is really clean!

Don't be upset about being put out of the kitchen! It's happened to me too.

Anyone who washes their dishes off with a sponge, before putting them in a dishwasher, is not fully in touch with reality.

I was not that fond of the one Whirlpool tall tub that I had, because it had trouble with dried oatmeal and egg yolks in the top rack. However, it was very good at disposing of a lot of leftovers on the dishes, despite its lack of hard core scrubbing ability. It is good machine for people who don't rinse their dishes.

So your friend would have been surprised at how it would have disposed of the scraps on your Thanksgiving load.

I'll save up a load of really dirty dishes and photograph them before and after. Then show them to your friend.

Dishwasher and disposers suffer more from wives tales, I think, than any other appliance. You would think, in this age, people would at least be willing to try a scientific experiment and do a load of unrinsed dishes.

The reality is, psychologically, people don't like to challenge thier set ideas (whether they are based on wives tales or not.) If they challenge them, and they find out they are wrong, it is a direct attack on their ego.


Unfortunately, few have the ability to use the intellect to override the ego.

So, it was better for your "friend" to kick you out of the kitchen (with no regard to your feelings) and to preserve his ego, than to risk allowing you to prove his belief in a wive's tale is a delusion.


Post# 560247 , Reply# 20   11/29/2011 at 18:28 (4,521 days old) by bwoods ()        

Sorry about the typo and misspelling your name, Darren.

Post# 560251 , Reply# 21   11/29/2011 at 18:52 (4,521 days old) by MaytagA710 ()        

Nice to see your DW is working nicely for you Barry. Thanks for the pictures, I really do enjoy how different these machines are.

Post# 560273 , Reply# 22   11/29/2011 at 20:15 (4,521 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
HOLIDAY DISHES AND DISHWASHING

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Darren sorry to here that you were put out of the kitchen when you were offering help, your hosts were the real losers. But I would have real droughts that this person is a real friend if they cannot recognize your talents and abilities. And does this friend have no respect for the environment? or any respect for

 

His dishwasher

 

His dishes 

 

His plumbing

He is harming all these items by pre-rinsing dishes.

 

I go to a lot of very nice dinner parties and no one has ever tried to stop me from putting thier dishes in thier machine dirty. Sometimes they have briefly questioned that I was putting them covered with food but the results have always been great.

 

 

 

As far as using paper plates or worse yet plastic plates and table ware to eat on when guests are in your home I could never  imagine doing this. I am going to have are Xmas car club dinner at my house again this year and we will serve about 85 people dinner and not one paper plate let alone paper napkin or paper towel will be used.

 

Even if it costs 50 cents to run a full cycle in a DW that doesn't buy many paper plates and it is far easier to get plates out of the cabinet and put them away after they come out of the DW than going to the store. 


Post# 560286 , Reply# 23   11/29/2011 at 21:07 (4,521 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
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Usually Thanksgiving dinner is hosted at my favourite aunt's house, has been that way for ages now and the rest of us have *our* own holiday/event to host.

It's her kitchen and her house, old as I am would have to eat Thanksgiving dinner through a straw if I tried to impose *my* views on how Aunt D should run her house/host a dinner.

For years we did use china and silver but many of the older women in the family who have been doing family event dinners longer than I've been on this earth saw it as a waste of time and energy. This even as cousins and I have been old enough to reach the sink have been drafted into clearing and washing up. Even this Thanksgiving found me in the kicthen with my hands in hot water! *LOL* So it's not like the senior females of the family have much to do with KP duty, other than supervising where things go and calling us back to fetch.

For the record my aunt does have a dishwasher (besides her daughter, grand-daughters, nieces etc...), but she rarely uses the thing. Like many old school southern women the thing is a "comfort", and does serve a purpose sometimes...

If Mr. Obama or someone equally important was coming to Thanksgiving dinner have no doubt we'd break out the *good stuff*, but for just the family I for one am not opposed to "paper". I say this as one who has been stuck in that kitchen with hands in hot water for hours washing and drying dishes that aren't even mine.

Am probably the only person I know that rolls up to family events with Playtex gloves and extra hand lotion in my bag! *LOL* Often one would notice on the drive home one had wash day red hands.



Post# 560291 , Reply# 24   11/29/2011 at 21:29 (4,521 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
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In many situations I have been in I was always able to load many dishwashers. And mostly always without prerinsing. The people that let me do the loading always said I got the most tableware in and always got surpurb results. I am happy I had the privligle of loading a lot of vintage machines. It was so great especially after many dinner parties.
But their are still those that not only prerinse but some people put them in so clean you can eat off them. (what a waste of energy) - but botton line you will never get through to them so I don't even bother to try. Remember a Leopard dosent change it spots.
As for paper plates - this is the way the world has become - some feel it is easier not to fuss. Even though I am not into paper plates except maybe at a barbacue or if a lack of a dishwasher, I still perfer to see people user paper goods than to see people pre washing dishes before loading in the dishwasher.
Peter


Post# 560509 , Reply# 25   11/30/2011 at 22:28 (4,520 days old) by bwoods ()        

It's working well, Kevin. Thanks again for the wiring diagrams. I am still trying to fit a WU401 timer into the machine, so it will give a third final rinse.

The Maytag cleans remarkably well, but still doesn't quite scrub baked on things as well as my GE 2800 or GSD 1200. I would say the power of the Maytag is much greater than the GE's (judging by an 8.0 amp motor versus a 5.5 amp motor.)

However, the Main Wash part of the cycle is only about 12 minutes on the Maytag versus over 45 minutes on the GE. So the Maytag is getting dishes almost as clean as the GE's with only about one fourth of the wash time.

Once I install the 401 timer, I will use the pulse that trips the detergent cup to initiate a normally closed, power off delay relay, which will break the power to the timer motor for a preset period of time. Hence, increasing the Main Wash time.

I suspect with three final rinses and a 45 or 50 minute wash time, the Maytag will outscrub anything out there. This would make my WU242, roughly equivalent to the WU601, but with even a longer main wash.

If I use a DPDT relay, I may even be able to get the heating element on during the wash phase, while the timer is being delayed. In other words, while one side of the relay is breaking the contacts to the timer motor, it will make the contacts to the heating element. So as long as the wash delay is in progress, heat will be on.

Has anyone tried this or can anyone think of a simpler method?



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