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Post# 91070   10/28/2005 at 13:51 (3,190 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Needed: Opinions.

Once in a lazy while I put things in the DW that are truly grease laden. I then do a *rinse only*, until a full load acculmulates.

Question: If I add detergent to facilitate grease removal- does it harm the dishes or the machine if it sits unrinsed?

I have a mahcine with a stainless steel (inox) interior and another with a plastique interior.

Enquiring minds want to know....





Post# 91072 , Reply# 1   10/28/2005 at 14:12 (3,190 days old) by dadoes ( )        

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I used to do that with the 1975 KDI-17, add just a little detergent when running R/H on a particulary grungy batch. Didn't seem to cause any harm. However, I suppose that leaving items wet with detergent residue for extended periods could cause some damage or etching over time.

Post# 91076 , Reply# 2   10/28/2005 at 14:23 (3,190 days old) by sactoteddybear ()        
Re: Rinse-&-Hold:

What I've done when I'm going to only do a Rinse-&-Hold, I do as you mentioned Steve, of adding some Detergent, then I also follow-up with an actual Rinse-&-Hold, just for that purpose, to make sure no Detergent stays on the items.

Peace and Proper Rinse-&-Hold, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...


Post# 91112 , Reply# 3   10/28/2005 at 19:15 (3,190 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

I usually put a tiny amt of detergent on the door for Rinse & hold. Have been doing this for quite a few years without any noticable damage. Silverware may react if detergent is left on them, but I use a small amt just to break the surface tension of the water.

Post# 91120 , Reply# 4   10/28/2005 at 20:20 (3,190 days old) by petek (Sarnia Ontario)        

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I don't use the R&H feature at all. I've found that using it causes the dishes in there to become stinky than just letting them sit in there and the gunk drying on. Everything always comes out clean when it finally gets washed.

Post# 91128 , Reply# 5   10/28/2005 at 20:50 (3,190 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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HMMM- perhaps the stinky is a result of the door locking and the moisture not escaping?

What kinda machine ya got?

Mine is a KA upstairs and a GE downstairs. Both need a conscious effort to close the door tight. They are each 2 to 3 years of age.


Post# 91134 , Reply# 6   10/28/2005 at 21:12 (3,190 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)        
Most of my dishwashers

have been convertibles, used as portables, and I rarely used rinse and hold. When I lived in apartments with built-in dishwashers, I would use rinse and hold more often, but I usually used baking soda instead of detergent, and it worked well--especially since most rinse and hold's are actually two rinses.


Lawrence/Maytagbear


Post# 91139 , Reply# 7   10/28/2005 at 21:29 (3,190 days old) by dadoes ( )        

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It may be true that leaving a wet load for a day or longer will generate more odors than not rinsing. I recall that happening occasionally with the KDI-17, and fairly often when I used Rinse/Hold with my Superba since it typically took at least a couple days to work up a full load. I *rarely* use R/H any more.

Post# 91144 , Reply# 8   10/28/2005 at 21:35 (3,190 days old) by launderess (La Pomme Grande)        
Never Bother With R&H Either

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Even when it takes two or three days to fill the dishwasher up, find any good enzyme dishwasher detergent like Electrasol tabs or Cascade (Pure Rinse or Complete) powder will give good results on all but badly baked on grime.

Rinse and hold is good for "freshening" new dishes before first time use, or dishes/glassware which as been stored away for a long period of time. Since my dw allows me to use the heated dry even after R&H, just load the items in and allow them to "rinse" and dry.

Launderess


Post# 91145 , Reply# 9   10/28/2005 at 21:36 (3,190 days old) by bostonwash ()        
rinse & hold

when I used to use a dishwasher (ducking for cover here) I found that if you have spaghetti sauce or lasagna regnents in there it would discolor plastic items like the tupperware and the tub it self.

Post# 91149 , Reply# 10   10/28/2005 at 21:43 (3,190 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
Rinse & Hold

"I don't use the R&H feature at all. I've found that using it causes the dishes in there to become stinky than just letting them sit in there and the gunk drying on."


I always leave the door "cracked" open after using R&H to prevent the odor problem.


Post# 91153 , Reply# 11   10/28/2005 at 21:53 (3,190 days old) by petek (Sarnia Ontario)        

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But I don't like having to go back and crack the door open. Like Chef Tony, I just want to "set it and forget it"

Post# 91154 , Reply# 12   10/28/2005 at 21:58 (3,190 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        

It wouldn't have to be done the instant the machine stopped, could be done next time one passes through the kitchen. Certaihly not worth making a special trip, they wouldn't start to smell THAT quick.

Post# 91160 , Reply# 13   10/28/2005 at 22:28 (3,190 days old) by launderess (La Pomme Grande)        

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Odor in the dw between loads is easily prevented by sprinkling some baking soda around the bottom of the tub. Just remember to use less or no dishwasher detergent in the first wash cup/section as the baking soda will work quite well in "washing" your dishes as well.



Launderess
(aka: Helpful Hints From Heloise"



Post# 91193 , Reply# 14   10/29/2005 at 05:18 (3,190 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)        
Long Term Damage

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I always wondered that if you used the Rinse/Hold feature, would that speed-up the rusting of the racks since they stay moist? I understand the the interior tub of the DW will not be affected, but, what about other parts remaining 'wet'?
Thoughts?


Gary


Post# 91232 , Reply# 15   10/29/2005 at 12:23 (3,189 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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It's extremely rare I use my R&H. I'm just like PeteK, I just keep adding to the load until it's full and let her rip. And with it just me, it may take 5 days to two weeks. Cascade Complete here 99% of the time.

Post# 91276 , Reply# 16   10/29/2005 at 21:11 (3,189 days old) by frigilux (the open prairie of Minnesota)        

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Appnut: Five days to TWO WEEKS to fill a dishwasher load? Holy cow, my DW runs several times a day. You must be frugal with the dishes! I'm terrible about that; I like to eat 'cafeteria style.' I put each food item on it's own little plate or bowl, put all those on a cafeteria tray and head down to the family room to watch TV while I eat.

I also like to have people in for dinner---a lot. Today I ran three loads of pots/pans/bowls from food prep alone.

Back to the subject at hand: I generally only use the Rinse & Hold feature if I've put food processor bowls/blades with bread dough all over them into the DW. My Frigidaire alternates between spraying the top and bottom racks, so the first fill of Rinse & Hold sprays the bottom rack and the 2nd fill sprays the top rack.


Post# 91277 , Reply# 17   10/29/2005 at 21:17 (3,189 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Frigilux, no I"m not frugal with the dishes. Everything goes in there. It's just sometimes all that accumulates are coffee mugs, glasses, and cereal bowls. Now this week, I ran it 3 times because of the cooking I did. These days, it's extremely rare when I have people over. But believe me, my GE is pretty packed when I do run it. Have had pix posted in the past with Bob's (me) dishwasher loads. But they're lost when we switched over to this site design.

Post# 91325 , Reply# 18   10/30/2005 at 03:20 (3,189 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
R&H

"I always wondered that if you used the Rinse/Hold feature, would that speed-up the rusting of the racks since they stay moist? I understand the the interior tub of the DW will not be affected, but, what about other parts remaining 'wet'?
Thoughts? "

Another reason to leave the door "cracked" after running R&H


Post# 91353 , Reply# 19   10/30/2005 at 08:14 (3,189 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Actually to avoid tomato sauce stains:
I don't wash plastic cutting boards (the only plastic I have except for childrens' dishware and cups for the nieces, and my Brita "bottle") in the machine when there is red sauce.


BTW=> Heated dry "sets" stains on plastique DW interiors.

Also, this Cascade product [in he following link] has peroxide in it and bleaches your plastics (and DW tub) clean. Leaves a nice pine smell behind too.


CLICK HERE TO GO TO toggleswitch's LINK


Post# 91355 , Reply# 20   10/30/2005 at 08:17 (3,189 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
No more bad odors.

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...said to remove odors too. I'd say it masks them, but you say "tomato" I say to-MAH-to."


Post# 91428 , Reply# 21   10/30/2005 at 20:07 (3,188 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Pine scented dishes?? Yuk. Why, all of a sudden, do dishwasher detergents seem to come in every imaginable scent? What are they hiding with all these citrus, pine scents anyway? If a dishwasher and detergent did their jobs properly, there should be no residue to even HAVE a scent. What's next - rinse agent that smells of cinnamon-apple?

Post# 91434 , Reply# 22   10/30/2005 at 20:48 (3,188 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)        
Hiding?

Usually some fairly disagreeable chemicals. At least, that's why chlorine based detergents were scented.


Cascade back in the 70's had a scent that to me, was slightly "pine."

I like scented household chemicals, but I like them to have rapidly dissipating scents.


Lawrence/Maytagbear


Post# 91611 , Reply# 23   10/31/2005 at 17:53 (3,187 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Actually I don't like scents in laundry or dishes.

But I'm willing to accept a pine scent IN THE MACHINE, since I don't use the additive with dishes.


Post# 92328 , Reply# 24   11/4/2005 at 21:59 (3,183 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Said:
If a dishwasher and detergent did their jobs properly, there should be no residue to even HAVE a scent. What's next - rinse agent that smells of cinnamon-apple?

Response:
Don't you love all these plug-in air-fresheners?

1- Let's put a greasy film on every surface in EVERY room and make it impossible to keep clean-- just like a kithcen.

2-If you cleaned your place once in a while you wouldn't have to mask the odors with another one.

3- What is wrong with opening a window?

4- Do you think it is smart to add artifical chemicals to a space --constantly? Can you say C A N C E R?







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