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Post# 562851 12/12/2011 at 17:48 (4,512 days old) by akronman  (Akron/Cleveland Ohio) |
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 The next machine I'm hoping to find is a "Burpilator" Norge. Can someone describe the overall era of Burpilators, what other badges the Norge wore, so I know what to look for? Usually the most recent builds are easiest to find, and I believe that Montgomery Wards "Signature" was the most common badge on Norge besides their own, but I don't know much else besides that. And what exactly was the burped water supposed to do? | ||
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| Post# 562911 , Reply# 3 12/12/2011 at 21:00 (4,512 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA) | ||
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Post# 562975 , Reply# 4 12/13/2011 at 08:14 (4,511 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Here is a video of the one RCD just mentioned. I have the machine now and shot this video of it over the weekend.
Enjoy! Kevin CLICK HERE TO GO TO RevvinKevin's LINK | ||
| Post# 562980 , Reply# 5 12/13/2011 at 08:24 (4,511 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
Great Vid Kev. | ||
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Post# 562987 , Reply# 6 12/13/2011 at 09:16 (4,511 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio) |
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Thanks for video I want a burpilator!!!!!! IT seems that various years included a lint filter at the spout, other years used the burped water through an agi-mounted filter. And the partial drain followed by immediate spray rinsing is relatively unique, there's still lots of soapy water in the tub. Any way it works, I'm hoping a Norge is my next find. There was a MW store in a nearby large suburb until about 2000, I should concentrate at estate sales in that area I guess. Besides Norge and Montgomery Wards Signature, what other major badges did the Norge wear? Were almost all full sized Signature models of the 60's to 80's made by Norge, with the burp and the brake? Thanks Mark
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| Post# 562993 , Reply# 7 12/13/2011 at 10:10 (4,511 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ) | ||
Burp The burpalators I've seen are either Norge- or Montgomery Ward-branded. The key is to look for holes on the agitator skirt in front of the vanes; this is where the pressure wave of the stroke of the agitator pushes water into the intake for the pipes that run up the sides of the agitator.
Later models will have similar looking agitators, but no holes.
While the Admiral and some other machines shared mechanicals, I don't think I've ever seen a burpilator of that ilk. | ||
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Post# 563016 , Reply# 8 12/13/2011 at 13:05 (4,511 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Norge branded
Western Auto - Wizard
Kelvinator - only for about one year 68-69, there was one of these on the SD Sacred Appliance Burial Grounds Bradford Gambles - Coronado (pic #65 in the Aberdeen farm pics) also looks to be around the time of the Kelvi branded Norge. Perhaps there was a snag in the WCI takeover of Franklin/GSM around this same time. I also seem to remember Norge-made appliances under a few other store names | ||
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Post# 563032 , Reply# 9 12/13/2011 at 15:44 (4,511 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i) |
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Post# 563037 , Reply# 10 12/13/2011 at 16:14 (4,511 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Norge photo... | ||
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Post# 563060 , Reply# 11 12/13/2011 at 17:54 (4,511 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay) |
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| Post# 563065 , Reply# 12 12/13/2011 at 18:28 (4,511 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
Norge/Wards burp up filters
Hey Ralph! It seems Norge/Wards went back and forth with their filter designs. My machine is from 1969, and it too had the detachable tray at the rear. Darrel sent me a "burpilator" so for awhile I used both filters. I had two trays, so I cut one down so I could use both at once. I found the burp up filter catches more lint, just because the holes in the detachable tray filter are too large to catch much lint. Now I only use the burplilator, and it does a good job. Still it is nice to have the fountain running too. I really love this machine!
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Post# 563073 , Reply# 13 12/13/2011 at 18:47 (4,511 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay) |
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| Post# 563148 , Reply# 15 12/14/2011 at 07:01 (4,510 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
Norge/Wards Sounds | ||
| Post# 563174 , Reply# 16 12/14/2011 at 09:03 (4,510 days old) by Volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH) | ||
Burpalator? | ||
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Post# 563180 , Reply# 17 12/14/2011 at 09:26 (4,510 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio) |
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Paging Volvoguy | ||
| Post# 563205 , Reply# 18 12/14/2011 at 10:47 (4,510 days old) by Jsneaker () | ||
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Post# 563075, Reply# 14 12/13/2011 at 18:54 by norgeway Hans, I believe the Hotpoint filter was called the "Filter Fountain"! Jay | ||
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Post# 563286 , Reply# 20 12/14/2011 at 16:45 (4,510 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i) |
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Kevin: the 8:00 position is the bleach dispenser.
I remember my grandma's '62 Wards Signature washer had the burp-a-lator system: bakelite base with a white agitator column and white filter pan with the bakelite top like my '64 Norge. The '64 I have below is the type with the rear-mounted pump filter -- I'm still seeking a filter pan for it if anyone has any leads..! 
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| Post# 563416 , Reply# 21 12/15/2011 at 14:03 (4,509 days old) by lesto (Atlanta) | ||
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I have a mid-70's Magic Chef labeled Norge burpalator but it is missing the filter pan. | ||
| Post# 563907 , Reply# 22 12/18/2011 at 14:23 (4,506 days old) by Volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH) | ||
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Paging Akronman! | ||
| Post# 563908 , Reply# 23 12/18/2011 at 14:25 (4,506 days old) by Volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH) | ||
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| Post# 563909 , Reply# 24 12/18/2011 at 14:28 (4,506 days old) by Volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH) | ||
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The shot you all want to see.
I'm guessing early 1980s or later 1970s, since it has the visible fill spout. This one may be either TOL or close to it. I pulled out the bleach dispenser drawer for this shot. I have the lint filter pan, but it's in bad shape and needs to be replaced. Barring replacement, you may be able to get very creative with 2-part epoxy. I also have the FS dispenser that sits atop the filter pan.
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| Post# 563911 , Reply# 25 12/18/2011 at 14:30 (4,506 days old) by Volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH) | ||
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Left side of the panel. | ||
| Post# 563913 , Reply# 26 12/18/2011 at 14:35 (4,506 days old) by Volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH) | ||
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Timer dial.
At this point, my camera's battery died. I can email these pics in MUCH larger versions if anyone wants. The more I see this washer, the more and more I like it. I'd love to keep it, but I've got too many projects already, so I'd be glad for this one to go to a place where it could be put in service again. I'd rather have a Montgomery Norge like my mother had, circa 1981, and more MOL.
I've never plugged it in or put water in it. When I got it, I was told it may need a motor (I may have one in my parts stash). I was also told some bearings were going out. I don't know if this means some sort of spin bearing or inside the transmission. Like I said, I've never tested this one or even looked at it much. I'd love to see this one running again, Dave 
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Post# 563914 , Reply# 27 12/18/2011 at 14:47 (4,506 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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 I did a bearing job recently on one of these machines, it really wasn't anywhere near as big of a job as I expected, and the machine works perfectly now without roaring during spin. Here was the process... CLICK HERE TO GO TO Unimatic1140's LINK | ||
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Post# 563924 , Reply# 28 12/18/2011 at 16:00 (4,506 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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| Post# 563926 , Reply# 29 12/18/2011 at 16:09 (4,506 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c ) | ||
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THE!!! Absolute WASHINGEST washer ever!!! | ||
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Post# 563995 , Reply# 30 12/18/2011 at 21:24 (4,506 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio) |
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Paging Dave Volvoguy | ||
| Post# 564429 , Reply# 31 12/21/2011 at 01:59 (4,503 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
 Iv'e Been trying to get to this thread Forever and a day... I have some nice videos when I was on my summers AW trip . I had such a melt down in my life that it's taking awhile to get back on track. And there is still much more to do to get back on track. That being said, I want to thank all of the people I meet in the mid-west this summer and in Canada I had a BLAST !
OOk ... My first encounter with a Burbulation Norge Machine was in the early seventies 8 or 9 yrs old. My grandmother on my dad's side Viola was her name, which I called Mama took me too North Carolina. Where I first meet my Aint and my cousins, Now this was a nice little home with a red dirt road. All I can remember was that they was fascinated that I was fascinated about that washer that was in the kitchen. Sooo my aint who was a happy women and her two older daughters put up a chair in front of this lit washer.... and let me stare at this machine.
I never had a reception like that ever ... But this Norge had a RED Burbulator agitator and I never seen one since. She said I can watch all I want , but put that lid down when it spins. I did do that ...but I would peak when spraying an I got Soaked ! lol. Anyway that washer was so much fun from the other machines I was use too like Kenmore & Whirlpool. The sound ..Like a Bees nest swirming around when washing and the long cost down from spinspray rinsing, was all new to me....That's why I got soaked with water lol.
Mark I'm glad that Todd has a real jewal for you and I hope that it works out well. I never seen that model , and the Peace sign is so NEAT . Peace my brother....my parents where Black hippies we had white & black and other in our house all the time... That's why I never understood racism my parents never talked in a negative fashion about other races in my house. And I'm a better person for it today. Sock -It- To me man get that MACHINE Running !
Rick...I love your Norge I looked at it on the tube forever and a day as well as that whirlpool.. The control panel is just great, makes one happy.
Todd M...The machine you have is almost identacal to my other family member rows of buttons .. but with a lighted dial in green & white, your dial must have that small clicking sound that Ben talks about in his video. Love that dial.
Mr. Kevin ...You have a nice new on in your collection now ..WHAT'S NEXT lol Drew always finds or gets the nicest machines...I beleave Jamie our his aunt has the same one it's in a video.
So I went In our Archives To get the one that started it all... I call him Old Grandpa ... Robert's machine ...Louis does not like this one as much thats funny he is A loud one and at times....Quit. Malcolm said it that Norge machines are very industral sounding VERY strong motor. I never understood the drag washing technique ...but yaa it's the water that cleans maybe a little more wear ? Here is the Agitator on the Roof with holes. Number 5. Norge Burbulator. Can you name the rest...
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| Post# 564431 , Reply# 32 12/21/2011 at 02:01 (4,503 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
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| Post# 564432 , Reply# 33 12/21/2011 at 02:06 (4,503 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
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| Post# 564436 , Reply# 34 12/21/2011 at 02:18 (4,503 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
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Now about that Hotpoint I came upon that one in the 70's as well. Beautiful Agitator someone called it here THE MOST ORGANIC looking . I like that agitator it was the end of a real Hotpoint. But the action from there scoop and throw was much gentler then a Burp Agi.
Mr. Kens Designs. Yes Ken I hold as much of your designs as you put out. 
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| Post# 564438 , Reply# 35 12/21/2011 at 02:54 (4,503 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
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So while visiting Mike in Peoria Illinois He was so gracious to rent a car and explore the mid west.
First I saw Todd in Quad city for a hot moment more on Todd's( Volvoguy ) story later. Then straght to Robert's and Freds home. And what a great TIME what a nice soooo much fun of a person Mr. Seger is. As well as Fred they made me feel so at home..if not better thanks guys. I got to run old Grandpa I just have a spot in my heart for the machine. It Truly is a HOG , PIG , Bee Swirming sounding machine. Every washer I used has just about the same laundry in it. My clothes. So more of the washers I post you will see the theme of them. This was the last washer I used at Robert's more on his story later as well. There is no way of using all of them in a two day stay lol. TO MANY ! So late night washing ... This starts off with a Picture I made for him then Grandpa. WASH> Half and half wash load... Half of Robert's play clothes for wash in's... Half of my soiled laundry with Vintage Original Tide. Topping off with Original vintage Downy. Wow I Still smell it. I also ask Robert to change out the original Agitator for the Burp model. | ||
| Post# 564439 , Reply# 36 12/21/2011 at 02:59 (4,503 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
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| Post# 564440 , Reply# 37 12/21/2011 at 03:04 (4,503 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
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Video 3.
Rinsing Over-Flo Style. The best part of being with Robert is that he share the most important part in just about all of us ... He watches with pride.. I never would have thought... A very warm person and I felt whole. And will never forget it. This post was last edited 12/21/2011 at 05:24 | ||
| Post# 564441 , Reply# 38 12/21/2011 at 03:12 (4,503 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
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Video 4.
Continuing Rinse. I also think that is the strangest agitator cap it's ugly then you come to like it ...Because it's symbolizes Norge. This post was last edited 12/21/2011 at 05:12 | ||
| Post# 564443 , Reply# 39 12/21/2011 at 03:22 (4,503 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
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Video 5.
Spin & Spray. This solid tub can take water out so fast. I also think it has a very nice porcelin basket with the holes up top. Makes it much unique. And it is pretty much a quit spinner. Thanks for the experince Robert & Fred. That's my take on the Norge. Now could I fix one Nope not yet. Great machine very Vintage. If you like them or not. They truly have there own charecter. Darren k This post was last edited 12/21/2011 at 06:14 | ||
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Post# 564547 , Reply# 41 12/21/2011 at 21:28 (4,503 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i) |
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Thank you, aldspinboy for the great videos! Love the sound of those Norges! Reminds me of my grandma's '62 Wards Signature machine. And I agree with aldspinboy, Robert's the greatest -- I've had the pleasure of getting the grand tour as well, and it's quite an honor and so much fun to see all these iconic machines.
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| Post# 564574 , Reply# 42 12/21/2011 at 23:54 (4,503 days old) by spinmon (st. charles mo ) | ||
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1960 Wish someone had pics of or actual Norge from 1960. My sweet mother,who just passed 12/19/11,had new tol '60 washer & dryer. Lighted console that stood on 2 chrome 'legs'. I've been a member here since 2007,visit frequently,but the '60 Norge is elusive. | ||
| Post# 564656 , Reply# 43 12/22/2011 at 12:31 (4,502 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
Darren, Thanks
the videos are great, the rinse water is so clear you can see everything--your underwear, hahah--, and the water hitting the massive agitator during the spray rinse gives a wonderful fireworks display of water.
For all Burpolator people: Even the earliest Norge Agi had holes in the bottom; and even though it didn't burp, it sure could spit from the slits in its sides 
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| Post# 564657 , Reply# 44 12/22/2011 at 12:34 (4,502 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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And instead of blades and vanes, it had paddles | ||
| Post# 564668 , Reply# 45 12/22/2011 at 15:20 (4,502 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
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Hey Guy's I'm glad you liked them. | ||
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Post# 566563 , Reply# 46 1/2/2012 at 20:56 (4,491 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i) |
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You know, I was doing a load of laundry in my Wards Signature washer and think that the burpilator filter must be the most effective lint removal system of all the vintage machines. It seem's "purer" because the water isn't drawn thru the tub holes and into a pump and back into a lint filter-- the agitator is right in the linty water with larger holes than the perforated tub holes, so can draw lintier water that if it gets sucked thru the tub...any thoughts on this?
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Post# 567024 , Reply# 48 1/4/2012 at 21:09 (4,489 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i) |
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Super Rinse | ||
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Post# 567102 , Reply# 49 1/5/2012 at 09:42 (4,488 days old) by sambootoo (Moody, AL) |
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Hey Joseph (Spinout) could you post some pictures, or better yet videos, of your Pencrest/Hotpoint? These are my dream machines. I've only seen one in operation and that was way back in the 70's. | ||
| Post# 567121 , Reply# 50 1/5/2012 at 11:26 (4,488 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Joe and Todd, when you get a moment, would you give more det | ||
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Post# 567136 , Reply# 51 1/5/2012 at 14:17 (4,488 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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"Hey Joseph (Spinout) could you post some pictures, or better yet videos, of your Pencrest/Hotpoint? These are my dream machines. I've only seen one in operation and that was way back in the 70's. " CLICK HERE TO GO TO Unimatic1140's LINK | ||
| Post# 569259 , Reply# 52 1/15/2012 at 14:29 (4,478 days old) by Volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH) | ||
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More to the point.
Just this afternoon, Mr. Akronman dropped into Cincinnati for lunch and picked up my 50th Anniversary Norge Burpalator, pictured above. I was very sad to see it go as I really wanted a Burpalator, but I'd rather have one like my mother's 1981? MOL-ish Wards. I could hardly imagine it going to a nicer home. Mr. Arkonman is a gentleman and I think the Norge should be very happy in his care.
Here's a pic of the exchange. I'm the one on the right, Akronman is on the left, and the Norge is in the middle. Dave 
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| Post# 569262 , Reply# 53 1/15/2012 at 14:39 (4,478 days old) by Volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH) | ||
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A parting shot. | ||
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Post# 569340 , Reply# 54 1/15/2012 at 18:19 (4,478 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio) |
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Home safe and sound IT's home! The Norge is waiting in the garage overnight for my boyfriend to help me in the morning with getting it down those basement steps, always a hassle. It looks like a great machine, pretty darn well-cared for, robust. Dave and I had a fun time, I got my first ever taste of delicious and famous Cincinnatti Chili, I got a tour of his basement too. He's a Maytag dryer expert, and rapidly turning in to a Kenmore washer expert, lots of great vintage machines working, some in repair/restoration, pieces parts all around for a bunch of projects. Dave and his roommate are also restoring their late 1800's home, it already looks nearly marvelous and his future work will shine. IT's a BIG house, 20 years older than mine.
I'll start a new thread in a few days, once I've started checking out this machine's needs, and I'll post pics for sure.
Again--thanks to Dave Volvoguy for a good day, a neighborly visit from one corner of Ohio to the other! He's very easy to talk to, full of information, and a kind soul.
My only complaint---------why does my new washer have to wait overnight in my garage!!!! I want that Burpilator action NOW.
Did Norge use the word BURPILATOR, or is that strictly an AW.org phrase? | ||
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Post# 569351 , Reply# 55 1/15/2012 at 18:55 (4,478 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Mark, looks like a great time was had by all.....wonderful to meet members and have some fun.....
don't tell me about "temptation" of getting a machine, and to get it into the house, hooked up and running....most times I strip down naked just to have a quick load....a seriously learned to close the shades, been there, done that! I would be awake all night if I had to wait until morning.......wake up the BF and move it now!(just advance the clock to 5AM, he'll never know!) | ||
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