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Post# 566614 1/3/2012 at 04:27 (4,491 days old) by Launderess  (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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| Post# 566626 , Reply# 1 1/3/2012 at 06:22 (4,490 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
I remember this ad !!! | ||
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Post# 566633 , Reply# 2 1/3/2012 at 07:33 (4,490 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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FRIST SUPER CAPACITY WP WASHER This machine would be from around 1966-7, I just completed the restoration of the Kenmore equivalent to this washer The Kenmore 518 over the last few weeks. These WP-KM Super capacity washers I believe to be the largest capacity top loading washers ever made for home use. They made them from 1966-7 through about 1981 when they reduced he tub size from 27 gallons to around 23. This was mainly done to give WP built washers a better energy rating and to reduce some vibration complaints that they would get when these machines were installed on weak flooring. | ||
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Post# 566646 , Reply# 3 1/3/2012 at 10:14 (4,490 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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This picture is in the pool as an occasional POD. Each time it shows up it seems to bring out some fun commentary of one sort or another.
As to the large capacity BD machines, John is correct. WP seemed to debut the machine first, I do believe around 1966. Kenmore's first 518 was a 1967 model, followed by the 1968 version. I'm not sure what changed with the '67 but obviously Kenmore felt the need to re-number the model for some sort of change or changes somewhere. Some in-house Whirlpool technical literature from the time discussed the larger diameter basket as this machine was being introduced to the service community. Combining the wide basket (which was both wider and deeper) with stock basket drive pulleys from the standard capacity machine gave the large cap. better water extraction due to greater centrifical force. I can't quote how much better, but enough to warrant publishing by WP. What many always seem to exclude here on AW in their frequent exclamations that WP/KM BDs don't spin fast enough is that they have some of the largest diameter baskets in the industry, thus spinning more water per RPM than other narrower basket machines. I wasn't aware (Thanks John!) that the 18lb. belt-drive was the largest capacity top loader out there. I knew it was huge, but I though perhaps the big DD machine was comparable? The big 18lb. machine ended production in summer 1981. The newest I've noticed was made around mid-year. Same for the oldest of the "energy efficient" generation, which had slightly smaller baskets and shorter suspension rods. I've never noticed a noticeable difference in useable capacity between these two machines (I am using one of each right now), but I presume the older machines hold a few more doilies, etc. The "energy efficient" large cap. machines were VERY widely produced from late 1983-1987. I imagine that if each machine used 10 gallons less water per load, that they saved a tremendous amount of water over time. Gordon | ||
| Post# 566661 , Reply# 4 1/3/2012 at 11:54 (4,490 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
Whirlpoolus Maximus | ||
| Post# 566663 , Reply# 5 1/3/2012 at 11:57 (4,490 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Capacitus Gigantimus | ||
| Post# 566666 , Reply# 6 1/3/2012 at 12:09 (4,490 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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On the PP cycle,
at extra-large level, with the double cool-down, it uses so much water, you can almost see the lake's water level go down. Next time I have the means, will show the open tub and an extreme close-up of the control dial. Off all the machines I know, this one's control dial is my favorite: it is mammoth and moves so easily with very bright clicks and the PP cycle is almost 3 inches wide !!!!
When my Aunt Alice gave me this because of a little rust at the bottom of the cabinet, she regretted it because her new GE wouldn't take her comforter, and she said she was so used to the big tub, she figured any new machine would be just as large. Not the case. This Whirlpool LDA 690 is a wonderful, wonderful washing machine.. | ||
| Post# 566670 , Reply# 7 1/3/2012 at 12:29 (4,490 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Not quite full, just the large setting | ||
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Post# 566671 , Reply# 8 1/3/2012 at 12:36 (4,490 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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LDA-6900 | ||
| Post# 566672 , Reply# 9 1/3/2012 at 12:43 (4,490 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Telepathy kills me | ||
| Post# 566674 , Reply# 10 1/3/2012 at 12:50 (4,490 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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One more: GOLD ON GOLD, | ||
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Post# 566675 , Reply# 11 1/3/2012 at 13:09 (4,490 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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GREAT pics Mickey!!
In case anyone wonders, the best way to tell an original size large capacity machine from the energy efficient 1981 and newer models is to look at the perfs/holes in the basket. As you can see in Mickey's pics, the holes go nearly to the top of the basket in the original versions. They go only about 1/2 to 5/8 of the way up in the newer, AND the rows on the tub bottoms are only two wide in the newer, but four wide in the older. FYI | ||
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Post# 566706 , Reply# 12 1/3/2012 at 16:08 (4,490 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Post# 566809 , Reply# 13 1/3/2012 at 21:48 (4,490 days old) by searsbest (Attleboro, Ma) |
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SUPER CAPACITY | ||
| Post# 566826 , Reply# 14 1/3/2012 at 23:47 (4,490 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.) | ||
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You sure could wash a mattress in that model. I've seen that in action as well as a similar model from the year before. The tub was cavernous, the Surgilator was beautiful, and dirt was no match. Happy New Year Everyone! James | ||
| Post# 566899 , Reply# 15 1/4/2012 at 11:58 (4,489 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Good day to all | ||
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Post# 566926 , Reply# 16 1/4/2012 at 13:17 (4,489 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Speaking of the agitator....
Though consumers probably weren't aware, the 1966-1981 WP large capacity machine underwent three dimensional variations that altered mechanical components significantly during their production run.
The first version, 1966ish-1973 was built to the same scale as the standard tub model, with the agitator shift rising similarly out the lid well of the machine. This first version had a four inch (or so) longer agitator shaft, special centerpost length, and therefore a custom spin tube. There is a huge distance between upper and lower bearings in these machines, and they are known for loud operation when worn. In 1974 the machine was re-designed to use the same transmission and agitator shaft as the standard, and thus the agitators were re-designed and shortened. WP's answer to this was to use the standard Surgilator. Kenmore debuted the Pentas - the Vane and Swirl. These agitators require separate extensions to be added in order to accomodate a fabric softener dispenser. When this change was made, ALL belt-drives in production used the same transmission - the portable, the 24-inch models, and all 29-inch machines. I think that's pretty cool... In 1978, the centerpost and spin-tubes were shortened five inches (a modification which is both great and awful in my opinion). Agitators didn't change nor did the view externally of the basket/agitator, but basket drives and spin tubes are different between the models. I like this modification because seldom if ever do we come across 1978 and newer machines that have worn bearings. The bearing roar/clack of worn bearings is not heard in these machines and WP finally solved the bearing issue that eventually can be the death knell for older BDs. BUT, this same short centerpost is also highly dependent on good center seals, which when failing or failed can cause large amounts of water dumpage into the bearings and down onto and into the transmission. The older machines can do the same thing, but it takes longer for the seals to fail miserably enough to flood these machines from all the way up the centerpost, thus the machines often lived longer. Cleaning up and repairing a gooey, flooded centerpost machine is not a fun job. MickeyD - you CAN use a winged Surgilator in your machine should you ever want to do so. It would transplant/fit perfectly and might make for an interesting comparison of one 'tater versus the other. Gordon | ||
| Post# 568277 , Reply# 17 1/10/2012 at 12:26 (4,483 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Hi Gordon. Are there 2 versions of the Winged Surgilator? | ||
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Post# 568304 , Reply# 18 1/10/2012 at 14:29 (4,483 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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| Post# 568310 , Reply# 19 1/10/2012 at 15:06 (4,483 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
I don't understand this ad!
I do not see the sense nor the funniness of this ad!
But the machine is very beautiful! This post was last edited 01/10/2012 at 15:41 | ||
| Post# 568312 , Reply# 20 1/10/2012 at 15:38 (4,483 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Yes, thanks, Gordon, it's a nice rendition. | ||
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Post# 568319 , Reply# 21 1/10/2012 at 16:31 (4,483 days old) by DaveAmKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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DaveAmKrayoGuy's Ruminations:
I just wonder what the washer before this one looked like... (And the dryer--if that one is even still there...)
Did it take all EIGHT of these lads to put the new Whirlpool in? (And did they even go to the app' store & got it home themselves?) And please, Son!!!! Be CAREFUL w/ that BOWLING BALL you're holdin' there, too!!!! -- Dave | ||
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Post# 568326 , Reply# 22 1/10/2012 at 17:05 (4,483 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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@Kenmoreguy
Historically it has been a running joke about American mothers keeping their sons in clean clothes and laundered drawers (under garments). Can well remember my own mother asking my brothers whenever they were going out any place from a doctor's appointment to whatever "do you have clean underware on?".
The other popular thing about clean drawers was that mother's chronically seemed to worry that if one were in some sort of accident and or otherwise ended up in hospital, upon being undressed the doctors and nurses would be *shocked* if one had on dirty undergarments and think you were poor/dirty/a slob.... The only thing one can think of that started all this was a reaction to mothers remembering themselves and or hearing about "hard time" or how persons lived in the "old country" when people of a certain class owned only one or two items of undergarments and or didn't change them that often. The latter may have been in response to the *work* laundry entailed before automatic or even semi-automatic washing machines. Do know at least in the USA it was common for both men and women to wear a set of undergarments (drawers, long johns, etc) daily between baths. That is they wore them to bed, got up and "dressed" wearing the same and repeated daily. Read an historical account of families growing up in the Appalachias around 1920 or 1930 where a mother actually sewed her boys into their underware (long johns) each fall/winter and didn't take them out of them until the spring. When the latter event occured it was a great relief to the schoolmates of those children! *LOL* | ||
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Post# 568327 , Reply# 23 1/10/2012 at 17:07 (4,483 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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@DaveAmKrayoGuy | ||
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Post# 568328 , Reply# 24 1/10/2012 at 17:11 (4,483 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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P.S. | ||
| Post# 568337 , Reply# 25 1/10/2012 at 18:12 (4,483 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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@Laundress
Thank you for explanation and time dedicated to reply!
Yep, my mother but especially granma used to ask me the classic question when I was child: " Fede do you have clean underpants and undershirt?" when an appointment to the doctor occured! Unfortunately I didn't get the hironical message in the ad because looking at those guys I thought they should have been enough mature to understand when have their stuff change and seriously hope this was a daily routine, in fact when they said they could have took on underpants for longer I thought: "Wow what a nasty family she grew up!" I did not even tought about an hironical message! If they were younger........ About pajams etc it was and still common in some families here as well, to wear such things during bedtime, I actually sleep just in underpants and wear tracksuit in winter and undershirt or t shirt and shorts in summer... My Granfather used pajamas. I've also seen a friend's father wearing a cap with the pom poms while going to sleep at his house, I laughed in face of him! Damn self control! LOL But why we always end talking about underwears???? LOL | ||
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Post# 570458 , Reply# 26 1/22/2012 at 10:27 (4,471 days old) by Electronicontrl (Grand Rapids, MI) |
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27 gallon tub Wow! I never knew any washer had a 27 gallon capacity. But on the other hand I may have known at one time but forgot. Thanks Kenmoreguy64 for your descriptive details. But those models did have suds-savers, right? I mean that would help somewhat with the lake levels. I wonder if KM sold more suds-savers compared to WP. Seems like KM advertised it more, iirc. | ||
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That does explain why once when I as looking at "Everythingold's" collection, there were 2 distinct sizes of large tub WP/KM belt-drive models.