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Thread Number: 38337
Unbalanced problem on Zanussi |
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| Post# 568918 , Reply# 1 1/14/2012 at 08:55 (4,484 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom) | ||
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| Post# 568958 , Reply# 3 1/14/2012 at 11:55 (4,484 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
Perhaps you had just bads luck? Just glanced back at your posts in the archives and you documents quite clearly that your AEG, Indesit and now the Zanussi all have these "Balancing Issues". I find it odd, that 3 machines all suffer so might I suggest its not the machines and something to do with your floor. Id go with it being uneven and your not adjusting the legs properly.
Failing that your either being too picky, and I would suggest scrapping a household machine and just taking your washing to the local Launderette. :) :) :) | ||
| Post# 568980 , Reply# 4 1/14/2012 at 13:27 (4,484 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
BALANCING DONT ASK
Try my Hotpoint aqualtis is often aborts spins on the rinse and final spin cycle, bedding is its nemesis it just balls it up in the wash cycle.........it will make 15 attempts to balance and if it cant it aborts (crockashite) must be beacause of the delicate lightweight bearings in there.
Oh and another thing, on its final spin which is oocasionally nicely balanced it stops middish point and tumbles the clothes around for aminute and then goes into the final stage of the spin (nothing unusual about that) BUT in re-distributing the clothes they are often not balanced and it it either aborts or does a noisy and out of balance spin at best...............the balnce/spin programming on this machine is SHITE! Good luck :-) Though Rob does have a point about uneven floors these poor modern machines just cant cope with them | ||
| Post# 569134 , Reply# 8 1/15/2012 at 04:16 (4,483 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy) | ||
They're not all that sensitive...
'Aeg03' I understand it might be frustrating to have to wait longer for your laundry to be done, but at least you're not going to experience any nerve-wracking thumping and banging like you would with some other machines. To top it all off, your machine should theoretically last longer... at least mechanically! As for the fact that big loads lessen the chance of an unbalanced load, this is not always true, it all depends on the composition of the load itself… e.g. you might have a drum stuffed with lots of small items together with 1 bulky heavy item, well, that is the kind of scenario in which the machine will struggle to redistribute the heavy item as the required room is taken up by the small items.
'Bertrum' I can't share your view about all modern machines having sensitive out of balance load sensors (strictly motor tacho) as some aren't sensitive enough... or even if they are to begin with, they’re programmed to override this control after a number of failed attempts and you can very well finish up with an out of balance load much worse than a machine without balance control can ever produce… resulting in uncontrolled gut-shaking! I’ve always noticed Hotpoint to be particularly sensitive whereas Indesit aren’t sensitive enough. The most recent Hoover and Candy don’t seem to be particularly sensitive either, but they’ve got other means for dealing with this occurrence and some of them have proved to be quite effective (such as slow spin and high water level rinse). My older, but still relatively modern Hoover might perhaps be a little too sensitive when it comes to a final long spin... but its sensitiveness lessens after every attempt and if it can’t balance the load successfully, it reduces the spin speed and stops faffing about for hours on end. This method is still acceptable as the machine still returns well wrung out clothes due to the length of the final spin cycle even if it's carried out at a reduced speed. It’s supposed to cancel the spin sequence if a smidgen of balance can’t be reached, but in all honesty… it’s done that only once (or perhaps twice) in over 7 years of use! | ||
| Post# 569342 , Reply# 10 1/15/2012 at 18:22 (4,483 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy) | ||
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@ Bertrum
Hi and thanks for getting back to me.
I'm sure you right about saying that customers often complains of long washes and clothes coming out wet... I agree, this seems to be a recurrent affliction of modern washers, but perhaps the word 'many' or even 'most' rather than 'ALL' in your statement, would have sounded a little less generic. About Hotpoint and Indesit sharing the same electronics... yes... that's right, but such electronic components can easily be programmed in different ways: it's a bit like having two identical laptops and installing 2 different operating systems on them (this example is probably a little extreme but I'm sure you know what I mean). Most of the Indesit I've seen... except for some TOL models for some strange reason, are anything but sensitive to unbalanced loads: I've experienced it first hand and I clearly remember very little balancing issues and lots of thumping! By contrast, there are many videos of Hotpoint washers on the net where you can see balancing attempts galore from them. Well, enough said... but I'm still convinced: 'many'... but not 'all'! Bye now :-) | ||
Post# 569638 , Reply# 13 1/17/2012 at 06:33 (4,481 days old) by chestermikeuk  (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Interesting stuff
It can be very frustrating to watch a "Perfect" interim spin and then on final spin the machine does nothing but distribute....again its all down to a few variables - or it should, be but is it?? Sometimes youve gotten more chance of finding the "God Particle" than a final perfect spin sequence.... But heres a few pointers:
Stable Floor and Level Machine: If you have a wooden suspended floor then make sure its secure (more battons & screwed down rather tha nails) , better still use a cement flag or a metal plate epoxyed to floor. By a Machine with capacity to suit your needs: Its no use buying a large capacity machine for the once a year scenario when its full, the drum needs to be 3/4 to full capacity to operate and spin efficiently... Capacity Loading to suit The drum: Most drums have three segments or chambers between the baffles, load accordingly, these chambers have to have equal weight / load distribution for spin perfection, so load on size multiples of threes, 1 bathrobe & a few shirts isnt going to cut it, 2 robes and an equal weight of towels is better... Programming: The next one is out of our control unless we give enough feedback for change to the manufacturers, many machines / makes do have similar parts, motors circuit boards etc...BUT those can and do operate differently (even same brand) because its all down to the programming!! Still Unbalanced: If you still cant stick the washer not spinning then only choice is buying a better built machine with robust stabalisation & fuzzy logic programming, which does come at a dearer price... 
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| Post# 569846 , Reply# 14 1/19/2012 at 04:32 (4,479 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
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| Post# 569928 , Reply# 15 1/19/2012 at 12:52 (4,479 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK) | ||
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I agree Mike. Theres a reason for everything. Large capacity machines which utilize the same diameter shell need to be stable on the start/end of spins to prevent damage. The 6kg Zanussi I have certainly needs to be balanced on its 1600rpm as it would probably be very loud indeed. Thanks. | ||
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Post# 570380 , Reply# 16 1/21/2012 at 23:55 (4,477 days old) by spinspeed (Far North New South Wales Australia (originally London UK)) |
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It does seem the newer machines have trouble with balancing. I guess with the faster speeds and biger loads it is important that the load is balanced otherwise excessive vibration could lead to wear and tear and a shorter working life. There was a thread a while ago where a Whirlpool Bravo TL destroyed it self during an unbalanced spin, frightening!
My Zanussi IZ which has the slanted drum rarely has a problem. It always seems to be well balanced and copes with a 1600 spin really well, even with a small load. It also does this cool thing from time to time where it breaks in to a short spin during the rinse when the machine is full of water. Makes quite a lot of noise when it does that, it is quite dramatic. Simon | ||
| Post# 570429 , Reply# 18 1/22/2012 at 06:31 (4,476 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK) | ||
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Oops, I was meant 'Spinspeed' Apologies for the typo. | ||
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