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Thread Number: 38736
Front Load Washer Cleaning Video - Miele |
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Post# 574651 2/9/2012 at 11:08 (4,452 days old) by logixx  (Germany) |
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Here's a video I made of how I usually clean my grandma's Miele washer. Being a true European model, it does not have a Clean Machine cycle.
What I do is run it through a boil wash with some citric acid and catch the cleaning solution at the end of the main wash. Then I switch over to spin and put the drain hose into the dispenser. When the machine begins its continuous spin cycle - no earlier - I add some of the hot cleaning solution via the dispenser. This aggressively and effectively cleans the entire outer tub and also the internal hoses. I have done this on Bosch and Electrolux washers, too. Works very well and certainly better than just an empty hot wash because the spinning action gets the water everywhere. Alex CLICK HERE TO GO TO logixx's LINK | ||
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| Post# 574682 , Reply# 2 2/9/2012 at 13:07 (4,452 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas) | ||
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Post# 574709 , Reply# 3 2/9/2012 at 14:52 (4,452 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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How did it got so dirty? low temp washes, or sth else? :)
Well, my grandma really isn't into appliances at all. She just bought the Miele washer and dishwasher because it's Miele and Miele is the best in her opinion. It just runs in the family that no woman cares for appliance maintenance (or any other household-related things, for that matter). So she just loads it with sorted clothes, dumps some detergent in there and a little softener, puts it on Cotton 40C or 60C and that's it. She also does the laundry for my two cousins, which tend to have rather dirty clothes. Needless to say, their clothes still smell after washing. I once put their stuff through an Extended wash with Water Plus and, wow, clean clothes! But there's no point in trying to make my granny understand the value of o-p-t-i-o-n-s that one can add to a wash cycle.
BTW: there's a discussion on the German forum where a Miele tech told the story of a lady that always used cold washes and liquid detergent. She complained about her smelly washer. Miele came out and even used diluted hydrochloric acid to clean out the machine. Nothing helped. Finally, Miele decided to take the machine with them. Turned out that the tub was so encrusted that a chisel was necessary to get the cr@p off the tub! True story. Alex | ||
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Post# 574889 , Reply# 5 2/10/2012 at 12:33 (4,451 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA) |
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| Post# 574942 , Reply# 6 2/10/2012 at 19:12 (4,451 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas) | ||
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| Post# 575041 , Reply# 8 2/11/2012 at 03:34 (4,451 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy) | ||
It looks effective!
Hi logixx, your 'Miele Washer Cleaning' strikes me as being very effective, but I'm not sure how I can get the washer to spin with water in the tub. Perhaps you wait until it actually starts spinning and then you start pouring the solution in?
I'd really like to do something as effective as that with my washer, as nowadays it doesn't seem to freshens clothes as well as it used to do even on cold/cool cycles! I have to wash everything on 40 or above, otherwise my clothes get some kinda musty smell after they've been stored for a few days. They never used to do that even if they were washed on cold... so, that suggests that my washing machine must have developed some funny growth inside! | ||
| Post# 575052 , Reply# 9 2/11/2012 at 05:47 (4,451 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
Good idea, although Im surprised the Miele did not register the pump not catching up with the water and forcing a static drain. Most modern machines surely abort spin to pump out if the water is not clearing fast enough???? thought that was the case.
Anyway try getting citiric acid easily in the UK. Tried a few places to get some to descale a machine on the cheap. those proprietary machine cleaners cost a fortune imo for 2 sachets and they dont seem to work as well. Ended up trying a pharmacy to be told no, never realised 'dealers' use it to cut 'products' and as a result its not sold on most uk high streets. Never looked online, dont fancy being visited by over zealous cops, if there is such a thing these days. | ||
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Post# 575053 , Reply# 10 2/11/2012 at 05:47 (4,451 days old) by Logixx (Germany) |
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Post# 575082 , Reply# 11 2/11/2012 at 08:49 (4,450 days old) by donprohel (I live in Munich - Germany, but I am Italian) |
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For aquarius1984: Citric acid in UK I've been buying citric acid since four years and never had any issue, maybe you can take a look at the link, hope it helps. But the way, does anybody knows the difference between Citric Acid Anhydrous and Citric Acid Monohydrate? To descale they both work well. CLICK HERE TO GO TO donprohel's LINK | ||
| Post# 575106 , Reply# 12 2/11/2012 at 11:12 (4,450 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy) | ||
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Hi back...
Thanks logixx, I will try to do that as soon as I can get some of that stuff... even though, in my case, it means unplumbing the washing machine to get the hose in the drawer.
I feel a little embarassed to say that I actually used 'milton' in the washer running a long cold cycle but I'm not sure whether I can confidently say that it's done the trick. As I said above, I have no problems with towels, whites and light garments in general because they always get warm/hot temperature cycles... but I tend to stick to 30 degrees when I have a dark load... but now it's been a while that I've been washing my darks a 40 degrees to avoid limited freshness. Last thing... couldn't it be a bit abusive for the bearings to cope with high amounts of liquid while the drum is spinning? I mean, its pressure could force it past the seal and cause some problems in the foreseable future. Well, that was just a thought... but anyway, I'm sure Mieles are strong enough to tackle this scenario, although it might be the 'last straw that breaks my Hoover's back' LOL | ||
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Post# 575303 , Reply# 16 2/12/2012 at 07:40 (4,449 days old) by Logixx (Germany) |
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I don't see how water could make it past the bearings as the spin speed forces water away from the shaft.
Totally agree about the spin wash thing. Our Electrolux start every spin cycle with a burst that makes water slosh around between the tubs. This machine is super clean inside despite its plastic tub. OTOH, considering the balancing act in modern washers, how long would a cycle with multiple spins washes take...? ;-) | ||
| Post# 575555 , Reply# 17 2/13/2012 at 05:33 (4,449 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy) | ||
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@ logixx
Hi ya... I wasn't thinking in terms of water pressure generated by centrifugal force... that is indeed pushed away from the centre. I was considering the constant stream of water that would be passing by the bearings... in a similar fashion as the visible sudslock you see at the front of the drum. I thought of this because when I was a young child I was in the habit of killing my mum's washer by advancing the dial to spin (once the water level had gone below the typical click of the pressure switch). By doing this the washer required a bearing change every couple of years or less. Sorry mum!
As for the spin wash... I don't see too much of an issue as most washers are not particularly sensitive in balancing a load for a low spin speed... like 400 rpm or something. There's actually a modern washer that does that while mixing the detergent and during the main wash as well... the Candy GrandO Evo. I saw it in operation and it didn't seem to be affected by the out of balance control system, however, I saw it with a full load, so perhaps a small lumpy load would have been another story. Bye now. | ||
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Post# 575950 , Reply# 20 2/14/2012 at 17:46 (4,447 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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"I was considering the constant stream of water that would be passing by the bearings... in a similar fashion as the visible sudslock you see at the front of the drum."
Well, the Clean Machine cycle Miele has looks not too different, so... CLICK HERE TO GO TO logixx's LINK | ||
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