Thread Number: 39265
Giving up on my Maytag A606 |
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Post# 581942 , Reply# 1   3/12/2012 at 14:02 (4,421 days old) by BrianL (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 581944 , Reply# 2   3/12/2012 at 14:03 (4,421 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 581956 , Reply# 3   3/12/2012 at 14:58 (4,421 days old) by echolane ()   |   | |
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I live on what's called the Mid-Peninsula of the SF Bay Area. |
Post# 581958 , Reply# 4   3/12/2012 at 15:09 (4,421 days old) by echolane ()   |   | |
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As to making a video, unfortunately, I just washed almost everything in the laundry bin yesterday because rain is forecast, and I like to hang my wash out to dry. |
Post# 582030 , Reply# 5   3/12/2012 at 21:36 (4,420 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i)   |   | |
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Post# 582150 , Reply# 7   3/13/2012 at 13:58 (4,420 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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The mount should be installed such that the spring loops for the base would be facing forwards, or towards you. If the spring loops for the top plate are facing you, it has been installed backwards.
Reverse the motor on the top plate, reassemble, and make sure the bottom spring loops face you. Hope this helps! Ben |
Post# 582153 , Reply# 8   3/13/2012 at 14:15 (4,420 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 582169 , Reply# 9   3/13/2012 at 14:37 (4,420 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)   |   | |
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I searched this forum for "maytag motor slides" and here are 2 pics. Remember, the springs are to pull the motor out towards the front left corner of the cabinet, putting tension on the belt. When the springs are fully extended, the motor moves towards the center tub shaft. When compressed and at rest, they pull the motor away from center of machine, out towards corner putting tension on the belt.
Many thanks to someone else's post for this pic, my Maytag isn't anywhere near as prisitine, but runs perfectly. |
Post# 582170 , Reply# 10   3/13/2012 at 14:40 (4,420 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)   |   | |
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Post# 582175 , Reply# 11   3/13/2012 at 14:58 (4,420 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)   |   | |
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you also mentioned trouble with unbalanced spinning. While your husband is having fun getting those pesky springs in right, compare your washer's innards to the pics above. Are those huge vertical springs all good? Check both ends of all 3 of the braces running from the tub to the aluminum ring in the center, everything solid? Once you've finished the motor mount springs, do a load or two and watch what occurs, ask for more advice here. Everything you've described so far, from motor mounts to unbalance, are usually easy repairs on a Maytag that will outlive you. The new motor mount wheels and springs and lube and belts will solve the slow action during agitation and spin, but the unbalance issue may be more related to that center aluminim damper and lubing there, and take a good look at the three huge springs and the three braces from center up to tub bolts.. Hopefully you only have one problem, most Maytags are well worth these repairs, but finish one chore and check, we can throw some advice on that unbalance problem too, once the first task is done.
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Post# 582221 , Reply# 13   3/13/2012 at 19:21 (4,419 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)   |   | |
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there are many better Maytag experts than me who can chime in, I'm trying to remember my rebuild from 2 years ago, it seems to me I never undid the motor from the plate, and it was a very mean little job with broken and chipped screwdrivers to get that spring hooked end into the various little holes while the entire assembly was in place on the machine. When finished it worked perfectly well, but a tight-fitting little nasty precise job while working on the floor.
Someone......?????
DO NOT GIVE UP. Your Maytag will get all better with your work, and will live a long life. If these are nearly the only repairs needed at it's age, you know it was well built. |
Post# 582228 , Reply# 14   3/13/2012 at 20:11 (4,419 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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If he took the motor off the top plate I would suggest reattaching the top plate to the motor before putting the bottom plate on.
I usually then install the motor and glide in the washer without the springs installed, then put the springs on once the motor and glide have been reinstalled on the washer base. This makes it easier so you are not fighting the spring force when trying to line up the 4 threaded studs through the washer base. I use a needle nose pliers to hold on to one end of the spring and fish the spring up to the top loops, then fasten it to the lower loops on the lower plate. Ben |
Post# 582240 , Reply# 15   3/13/2012 at 21:16 (4,419 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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I would look for a good repair person that is enthusiastic about working on this washer and pay them to look at it and give an estimate as to what it needs. I wish you were in our service area as we would be glad to do this for you. And while it is technically possible to keep this washer running another 20 years it will likely cost as much or more in time and effort as buying a new SQ TL washer now. This is also a good time to get a new SQ TL washer, a new SQ will not only perform much better than your MT ever did when new but will use a little less energy without going to far. When you consider that a new SQ TL 2 speed washer will only cost about $650.00 that is far less than the A606 cost in today's dollars when new.
You have gotten far more use out of your MT washer than MT intended and no washer or automobile will go on forever without major repairs and expenditures, I often advise my customers that have gotten GREAT service out of an appliance to quite while they are ahead. |
Post# 582258 , Reply# 18   3/13/2012 at 22:35 (4,419 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Check out this thread and the simple resolution. I don't know if your machine could have the same problem, but worth a look. CLICK HERE TO GO TO rp2813's LINK |
Post# 582259 , Reply# 19   3/13/2012 at 22:36 (4,419 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)   |   | |
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A neighbor of mine had that exact model, and he used to let me wash the drop cloths and towels he used when working in his garage. That washer purred like a kitten. Good luck with the repair job, James |
Post# 582266 , Reply# 20   3/13/2012 at 22:55 (4,419 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Will clean and spin and last far longer than a 1970s MT and it is just 251/2" wide. It also has a better warranty than the MT ever thought about when it was built.
Just like the new cars of, today compared to cars of the 1970s there is little comparison. Materials and quality control today are so good that manufactures couldn't even imagine that there would be so LITTLE service required on today's appliances. Myself and a few of my other appliance repair buddies have become millionaires fixing 1970s and 80s appliances as people would fix them again and again. This will not be nearly as easy today as newer appliances just do not have as many real problems now, a big percentage of the things I fix everyday are dumb problems and installion related issues but far fewer real failures of the machine itself. |
Post# 582271 , Reply# 21   3/13/2012 at 23:15 (4,419 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Ok. We know the SQ is a great machine and all and it beats the Maytag seven ways to Sunday but...
It sounds like the young lady is at least trying to make an effort to try to fix what she has first since it was a solid performer before making the leap to new. I DO agree that the new SQ is pretty cool and has a warranty that shames anything else on the market. If I had to buy new, I'd go Speed Queen. But it doesn't hurt to try fixing the Maytag if possible and reasonable, right? :^) RCD |
Post# 582316 , Reply# 22   3/14/2012 at 08:00 (4,419 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi Andy I hope I will get to finely meet you at Kevin's in April.
My first advice is to get an accurate appraisal on the MT and if the transmission is not the problem and the damper is not shot it may have a few more years in it. I fix MTs this old every month I am all for getting the longest reasonable life out of any decent appliance.
One other good option if the owner really likes the look of her current MT washer is to buy a good used 1980s - mid 1990s working MT DC machine and do a cabinet transplant using the newer drive line. The number 1 reason that we are trashing 1970s MT washers is top transmission bearing [ agitator shaft ] is binding in the top housing 2nd is probably snubbers that have lost there pads and are in a metal to metal condition for a long time. And while it is certainly possible to repair either one of these conditions they are not simple or cheap repairs. |
Post# 582325 , Reply# 23   3/14/2012 at 09:04 (4,419 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)   |   | |
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Post# 582328 , Reply# 24   3/14/2012 at 09:49 (4,419 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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It sure will be nice to meet you as well but how will you survive being surrounded by all those classic Maytags at Kevin's? The line from Indiana Jones comes to mind. "My boy, we are pilgrims in a unholy land..." LOL!
You have come up with some very acceptable options for this 606. Doing a cabinetectomy is something that a homeowner with decent skills can do without getting over their heads and save the washer's classic looks. I'll have to touch bases with you via phone sometime as I have a Agitub needing a motor... RCD |
Post# 582384 , Reply# 26   3/14/2012 at 14:28 (4,419 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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If you're persistent, you may find a SQ top loader readily available through a small independent dealership. A member here was recently facing the same issue but after spending a little time calling around, he found a SQ at an appliance store not far from him.
If there's an issue with fill level once you get your SQ, there are threads on how to increase it, and people here who can help guide you. |
Post# 582511 , Reply# 28   3/14/2012 at 22:55 (4,418 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)   |   | |
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Are the new SQs designed to agitate with the traditional long slow stroke just as their grand predecessors did? Kudos to them if they are. James |
Post# 582657 , Reply# 29   3/15/2012 at 13:03 (4,418 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 582742 , Reply# 30   3/15/2012 at 23:03 (4,417 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)   |   | |
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Good to know there is at least one brand out there keeping things traditional. |
Post# 1149775 , Reply# 33   5/29/2022 at 07:21 (691 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)   |   | |
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You had to take the transmissions apart when it was only 15 years old?
My A606 is 49 years old, the transmission has never been apart, and it runs fine as long as it's not installed in a very cold room. |
Post# 1149800 , Reply# 34   5/29/2022 at 10:53 (691 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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Post# 1149814 , Reply# 36   5/29/2022 at 14:27 (691 days old) by robbinsandmyers (Conn)   |   | |
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Post# 1149818 , Reply# 37   5/29/2022 at 15:37 (691 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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Post# 1149827 , Reply# 38   5/29/2022 at 18:01 (690 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington NC)   |   | |
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Post# 1149842 , Reply# 39   5/29/2022 at 21:18 (690 days old) by ryner1988 (Indianapolis)   |   | |
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I feel like the original author might have felt more compelled to keep trying with the old Maytag, or might have paid really whatever they had to so someone would come do the repairs. At the time when this was written, 2012, Whirlpool direct drives had very recently stopped production, and the switch to VMW and other high-efficiency designs was well underway, but there were still many, many traditional top loaders available. People weren't as desperate to hang onto their old appliances when they could still get something like a Speed Queen with dial controls, or even a really good Whirlpool direct drive machine. Heck, even if this person would have wanted to stick closer to what they had, they could have probably found a used 12 series Maytag from the 80's. That is not the case these days. I think people are really working to keep their old top loaders in service as long as they absolutely can now, as in, they are much less willing to sell or scrap them then they were even a few years ago, because there just aren't good options to replace them with unless one wants to get a front loader, which is out of budget for many.
Times sure have changed in 10 years. |
Post# 1149849 , Reply# 40   5/29/2022 at 23:42 (690 days old) by Good-Shepherd (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Well, for one reason if you're inactive on the site for a certain length of time your profile and user name gets deleted. I had to start over again a few years ago. |
Post# 1149856 , Reply# 41   5/30/2022 at 01:49 (690 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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Post# 1149870 , Reply# 42   5/30/2022 at 09:16 (690 days old) by ryner1988 (Indianapolis)   |   | |
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