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What year is this kenmore washer dryer set |
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Post# 584044   3/20/2012 at 21:53 (4,416 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Hello to all kenmore expert what year do you thin this kenmore washer dryer set are and what kind of agitator would you presume to be inside since there is no money shot to me when i look at the model desing it looks like the washer was imported from the us or if its a canadian model maybe it was made in the us?
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Post# 584045 , Reply# 1   3/20/2012 at 22:00 (4,416 days old) by joefuss1984 (Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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Post# 584047 , Reply# 2   3/20/2012 at 22:19 (4,416 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)   |   | |
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Post# 584048 , Reply# 3   3/20/2012 at 22:19 (4,416 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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Those are most definitely Canadian models. We never had anything quite like that in the U.S., in fact I do not believe any Dual-Action models here had a picture of the agitator on the console. The side-swing door on the dryer is a tell-tale sign of their Canadian origin as well.
Cool machines! Gordon |
Post# 584101 , Reply# 4   3/21/2012 at 08:07 (4,415 days old) by ingliscanada ()   |   | |
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These are late 70s Canadian models. Gary |
Post# 584102 , Reply# 5   3/21/2012 at 08:40 (4,415 days old) by cphifer5115 (Jackson, TN)   |   | |
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Post# 584361 , Reply# 7   3/22/2012 at 07:01 (4,414 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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to answer your questions about side swing dryer door i think that for most canadian it was more practical for 1 thing and second i think it was because of space and the labor cost in making the dryer door side swing. and also in canadien household not all laundy utilaty could have a dryer that has an oven door type like for exemple in some houses the washer dryer where put in a closet so because of the closet door it would be impossible to have a dryer with an oven door.
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Post# 584365 , Reply# 8   3/22/2012 at 07:31 (4,414 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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It costs MORE to make a dryer door that opens down as the hinges and metal have to be stronger plus on most they have to use counterbalance springs. WP usually sent their older tooling to Canada so the Canadian washers and dryers often looked like older US models.
Even very few US dryer manufacturers had hamper doors, Kenmore used them from the start and later WP machines started showing up with them. I know that many customers including myself prefer them as I find it more convenient to load and unload without dropping clean clothing on the floor. I have and have used many dryers that have side-swing doors and I somehow manage to get the clothing in and out of them LOL. |
Post# 584398 , Reply# 9   3/22/2012 at 11:13 (4,414 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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By 1960 or so in the U.S., Kenmore had the drop down plug door, about the size of a pizza delivery box, in all their dryers except TOL models which had a full-width drop down door.
Whirlpool at the same time had the same full-width drop down door in their best models, but a side-swing plug door in the rest. I remember in the early 90s some WP models and owned brands (such as Roper) got Kenmore's drop down plug, but not in huge quantity of models or for a long time period. Not long later, Kenmore's drop down plug went away, and even the Kenmores had WP's side-swing plug (on the 5.9 cu. ft. models). Today, WP brands and KM share the same side-swing doors on the 5.9s, and the 6.5s. The 7.0 cu ft models and similar in both 27 and 29-inch cabinets often have the wide opening drop down door. The difference between Kenmore's small drop down door, and WP's side swing is what John mentioned - the KM has two springs and two cables, whereas the WP has a simple metal hinge. The cables and springs are still high-volume repair parts, whereas I would doubt there is much repair work necessary on the old side swings. My supposition is that in the Canadian production plant, greater production commonality was achieved by Kenmores having the same dryer doors as WP, so the U.S. version was never introduced in Canada. With lower output numbers in CA, a different Kenmore door was probably judged non-justifiable. Gordon |
Post# 584523 , Reply# 10   3/23/2012 at 02:35 (4,414 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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I don't know the exact reason for that but notice that this dryer also has the old style Whirlpool lower panel like many Canadian Inglis washers and dryers had. I used to have my parent's former 1974 Inglis 'Heavy Duty" dryer and it did have a bottom hinged door and a regular lower panel like US Whirlpools (see picture).
I also prefer this kind of door to the side swing doors as they allow throwing clothes on the door when you remove them from the washer. Also in installations like this one (and the Kenmores above) where the washer and dryer are reversed from the normal position with the washer on the left, you aren't bothered with the dryer door when loading the dryer from the right. This post was last edited 03/23/2012 at 02:52 |
Post# 584525 , Reply# 11   3/23/2012 at 02:44 (4,414 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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I had other relatives who had fancier Inglis Royal dryers from the early seventies. These were TOL models with lighted consoles, drums and timer control, they also had adjustable end of cycle buzzer under the lint filter door and something similar to the "Press Saver" feature on Frigidaire 1-18 dryers (I don't know how Whirlpool called it) but the dryer would start for a few seconds every few minutes after the end of the cycle. They had the 1961 Whirlpool style lower panel like this one (note the Kenmore washer has it too!). |
Post# 584528 , Reply# 12   3/23/2012 at 02:54 (4,414 days old) by applianceguy47 ()   |   | |
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That was the dryer my mother got in 1976, along with the matching sudsaver washer. |
Post# 584529 , Reply# 13   3/23/2012 at 03:02 (4,414 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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George, this one is an Inglis. I gave it to my cousin. My parents bought it new in 1974 with a matching large capacity washer. I think that's the reason why they had the US style lower panel as most other Inglis models (including TOL models) still had 1961 style lower panels and I think they weren't available with large capacity. |
Post# 584633 , Reply# 14   3/23/2012 at 14:30 (4,413 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))   |   | |
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Was called wrinkle guard III on the Lady Kenmores of this timeframe and tumbled every 5 min for up to 2.5 hrs. Wrinkle Guard I and II were featured on other KM dryers and allowed for an extended tumble without heat of 30 min for WG I and 45 min for WG II. The I and II were built in to the timer on the auto dry cycle. I am to sure what Wp named this on their own models.
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Post# 585670 , Reply# 16   3/29/2012 at 08:35 (4,407 days old) by joefuss1984 (Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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Post# 585691 , Reply# 17   3/29/2012 at 10:44 (4,407 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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All WP Dryers had the small side oping door from 1949-the 1990s on standard capacity models. None of the small side opening doors on WP dryers were ever reversible, GE and MT and Norge dryer doors were also not reversible till the 1990s. Oddly GE and Norge and WP doors always were right hand while MTs were always left hand opening. |
Post# 585722 , Reply# 18   3/29/2012 at 15:05 (4,407 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)   |   | |
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It was always odd I thought, for Maytag to put the dryer to left effectively. A lot of their sales literature also shows the dryer to the left of the washer. Around here, there are many town homes built in the early 70's through the 80's and one thing that I notice it that the laundry closets, which were built with the structure, were always setup with the dryer hookups on the left. It's almost like they were made for Maytags. To me the natural order is washer then dryer. You wash the clothes 1st and then pass them along to the dryer. Much like KM/WP that matched the control panels to where the washer and dryer timers were next to each other.
When did Maytag finally give up the left-swing door and go to the norm? Or did they simply solve that my going to the reversible door?
-Tim |