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well ya know when you have a match set you would rather die than junk one? well i love this tag set and part of the reason is im gonna say we were born the same year or close to it but they are just so pretty.. anyway the dryer is a dream never a problem but this washer has been a thorn im my side since day one.. when i got the machine a good 7 years ago the tub nut was broken and the agi was stuck.. so i broke the agi apart to get the tub out well in doing so i messed up something in the trans causing a no spin.. so i got a used trans put that in and all was fine.. then the cluch started sticking it either would spin or would not spin so i got a clutch..then it was fine again.. then it started to leak oil (just a little) so apart again it came too put a seal in.. all was fine again.. so in fall i used it and it started knocking and sort of sticking at the end of each stroke of the agi so i parked it.. then last month i look in the garage and there is a huge pool of oil under the machine so just for kicks i plug it in and the trans is half way locked.. so at this point im done.. i love the look of that machine but to be honest i dont like the small tub and sort of crappy turn over so i thought what can i do now cause at this point the machine is trash.. now i do have a big tub early 80s flat trans machine just sitting in the garage that i got for free from this really nice old gal in her early 90s (so you know it never got much use), well i decided to just switch the outer skins and have a pretty retro look with a newer bigger working machine.. so thats what i did.. i know its not really the correct way to fix the old machine but what the hell.


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Post# 584472 3/22/2012 at 17:35 (4,414 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)
Checkrate/Likes well ya know when you have a match set you would rather die than junk one? well i love this tag set and part of the reason is im gonna say we were born the same year or close to it but they are just so pretty.. anyway the dryer is a dream never a problem but this washer has been a thorn im my side since day one.. when i got the machine a good 7 years ago the tub nut was broken and the agi was stuck.. so i broke the agi apart to get the tub out well in doing so i messed up something in the trans causing a no spin.. so i got a used trans put that in and all was fine.. then the cluch started sticking it either would spin or would not spin so i got a clutch..then it was fine again.. then it started to leak oil (just a little) so apart again it came too put a seal in.. all was fine again.. so in fall i used it and it started knocking and sort of sticking at the end of each stroke of the agi so i parked it.. then last month i look in the garage and there is a huge pool of oil under the machine so just for kicks i plug it in and the trans is half way locked.. so at this point im done.. i love the look of that machine but to be honest i dont like the small tub and sort of crappy turn over so i thought what can i do now cause at this point the machine is trash.. now i do have a big tub early 80s flat trans machine just sitting in the garage that i got for free from this really nice old gal in her early 90s (so you know it never got much use), well i decided to just switch the outer skins and have a pretty retro look with a newer bigger working machine.. so thats what i did.. i know its not really the correct way to fix the old machine but what the hell.

Post# 584473 , Reply# 1 3/22/2012 at 17:36 (4,414 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)
Checkrate/Likes bigger tub

Post# 584474 , Reply# 2 3/22/2012 at 17:45 (4,414 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)
Checkrate/Likes the new guts in the old body.. the newer machine was a single speed and the old machine was a 2 speed with a tiny motor so had to find a bigger 2 speed motor and sweet steve r out in roanoke saved the day... yeah so now she runs again and nice and quiet as she should be ahhhh

Post# 584475 , Reply# 3 3/22/2012 at 17:56 (4,414 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)
Checkrate/Likes all in all this may not have been the best or correct way to fix the old girl up but im good with it. like the retro look and can now actually wash a real load of cloths.

Post# 584483 , Reply# 4 3/22/2012 at 18:37 (4,414 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)
Checkrate/Likes *MT A702 Big Tub Converison* Glad you got it working Chris, I sent you a motor two days ago so now you will have a spare. I should have asked why you needed the motor because if the motor was still good in the 1962 it is probably a better motor and they are the same HP as the motor that was in your 1980s machine that you installed in the A702 cabinet. One thing to be careful about if you did get a motor from a 2000s machine after they changed to a 1/2 HP motor is that you may ruin the timer or water level switch from the A702 as these parts were rated for the lower amp draw of the 1/3 HP motor that both machines should have.

Post# 584490 , Reply# 5 3/22/2012 at 19:19 (4,414 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)
Checkrate/Likes Thanks John for the info on motor hp's. I will have to remember that! Any advice for possibly strengthening said controls to handle the extra power? RCD

Post# 584535 , Reply# 6 3/23/2012 at 05:09 (4,414 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)
Checkrate/Likes aw cool ill keep my eye out for the other motor and ill send you a check asap

Post# 584540 , Reply# 7 3/23/2012 at 05:51 (4,414 days old) by Easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC)
Checkrate/Likes *Chris . . .* . . . you're amazing!!! Who would ever have thought about putting a new machine in an old cabinet??? That is great. Thanks for sharing your story. Jerry Gay

Post# 584588 , Reply# 8 3/23/2012 at 10:52 (4,413 days old) by wiskybill (Canton, Ohio)
Checkrate/Likes *Very cool...* As is often said here you can't save them all, but you saved the best of both. Enjoy!

Post# 584909 , Reply# 10 3/25/2012 at 08:08 (4,411 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)
Checkrate/Likes *Sometimes you get a machine* that just doesn't want to live and you did the best with that. I have a 1970 LK Combo which John and I have been trying to resuscitate for 25 years! I hauled it off a junk pile because I had never seen a Kenmore front loader. It wasn't until I got it home I saw it was a combo. We are determined to breath life back into it. Then sometime you get machines that are aching to be back in service. Nice job you'll enjoy it now for many moons to come.

Post# 584992 , Reply# 11 3/25/2012 at 13:37 (4,411 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)
Checkrate/Likes Hey - I like your thinking Chris! I did the same thing a few years ago to create the 'Super Tag' and used an A806 from '71 or so and put it in an A700 cabinet. The only thing to watch for is the out of balance lever. It is not long enough to reach the tab on the tub top. I haven't put a lot of thought as to how to make it longer but eventually I'll get around to it. Nice job! Ben This post was last edited 03/25/2012 at 18:29

Post# 585034 , Reply# 12 3/25/2012 at 18:10 (4,411 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)
Checkrate/Likes *Best of both worlds!* Your ingenuity amazes me. What a great idea. You could always run a longer hose over to the bleach inlet on the tub. Congrats on making a large capacity machine in an older cabinet. Patrick

Post# 585104 , Reply# 13 3/26/2012 at 05:41 (4,411 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)
Checkrate/Likes YEA A LITTLE MORE TINKERING AND WE SHOULD BE GOOD. HONEST THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET BORED HA HA WELL SORT OF.. HEY BEN HOW ARE YOU HOW IS THE FRIGIDAIRE?

Post# 584590 , Reply# 9 3/23/2012 at 10:58 (4,413 days old) by rickr (.)
Checkrate/Likes Way to go, Chris! Thats one way to fix it. Congrats on getting this machine to be in working order.

Post# 585148 , Reply# 14 3/26/2012 at 12:03 (4,410 days old) by turquoisedude (.)
Checkrate/Likes I am going to borrow your idea, Chris... I have a troubled 66 Inglis washer that may be cloned to a 67 Whirlpool! Glad to see you save the 'Tag!!

Post# 585159 , Reply# 15 3/26/2012 at 12:41 (4,410 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)
Checkrate/Likes *How cool that Sweet Steve saved the day* And John has another one on the way. You sure know how to bring out the cavalry. Small tubs. I remeber the first Norge I opened up as a kid. The tub seemed almost tiny and the huge 4 blade agitator and plate filled up the bottom of the tub. And now we see bigger tubs would have fit all along in many machines. A 12 pound Frigidiare tubs easily fit the Unimatic frame, etc. I wonder why they made them so small when the conventionals (wringers) were bigger and standard. What made them all go small?