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Post# 585325   3/27/2012 at 12:57 (4,406 days old) by koalas ()        

Hello everybody,
Here's a vidéo of an old washing machine with, at the end, a boiling cycle.
Enjoye!


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Post# 585326 , Reply# 1   3/27/2012 at 12:59 (4,406 days old) by koalas ()        
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Hi again!
I think the link below is better.`
Bert


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Post# 585328 , Reply# 2   3/27/2012 at 13:38 (4,406 days old) by whirlpolf ()        
how sweet is that!

Bert, this is just lovely. Very well explained, a good and detailed description of the option buttons and the timer. Good narration, too.
I still remember those machines around and yes, you are right, this soapy boiling laundry smell: That is something unique to be remembered. The Vedette brand had this very strange and humming electromagnetic sounds to it (at least louder than on any other brand back then), that was just a thing to admire. And best to me, blueish metal panels, what thing! (When I was a small kid, I just couldn't figure out how they did it).

Wasn't there another model with a ribbed glass lid as well?

Thanks for sharing!
Joe


Post# 585347 , Reply# 3   3/27/2012 at 15:53 (4,405 days old) by koalas ()        
thank you!

Thank you Joe. And if you come to France, come and see them.
Bert


Post# 585359 , Reply# 4   3/27/2012 at 18:45 (4,405 days old) by whirlpolf ()        
anytime! I'd really love to!

Where are you located?

While I have been following your website all along the whole time (even apart from automaticwasher.org, gee mee! What a sacrilegue! - I just know I am a sinner, so what....), I could never figure out where you are. I am close to the French border, Saarland area that is. Creutzwald being the closest town to me, just 10 mins off of my sisters's home.

You guys seem to have the most comprehensive site worldwide what comes to French washers, so what about the famous "Calor" (later "Tefal" and "Jata") washers? I just love them, so unique, so special. No matter what, a commercial going like "Qu'en dit Candy?" (for our English friends: "Kån-di kån-di!" is a veritable pun that deserves more than a harmless website! = What does Candy think of this? transformed into a pun hard to be pronounced in any other languages than French.) Just marvellous!
The Brandt, Thompson, Ariston, what have you Series! Bring them up here!

So guys, what do you think? Some more "savoir vivre" around here? I am in for it!
Please, Bert, just SLAM them, or they will never learn...
Joe



Post# 585409 , Reply# 5   3/28/2012 at 01:16 (4,405 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

60's vintage French washers are so beautiful... They have a really lovely look to them. I'm curious to know, what are the two lights in the console for?

Your videos really make me wish that I had taken French in school so much more seriously. Too bad I forgot most of it..



Post# 585420 , Reply# 6   3/28/2012 at 04:54 (4,405 days old) by whirlpolf ()        
For Bud (and all others)

Here is what I could hear (some portions were hard to find out with all the noises. I am not 100% sure about the wording but at least it will give you an impression).
Joe

transscript:

Hello and welcome to a new demo.
(SUBTITLE: Presentation)
It's the "Vedette compact 655", a real 6 kg machine that came out in 1965 / 1966.
(SUBTITLE: Loading the wash)

Closing is really simple, the detergent compartment is at the front. A really big soap box, that is...
(SUBTITLE: about filling in detergent and about the controls)

How it works:
Well, this is the "spin" button for cycles that need spinning,
"rinse & hold" button: the machine will stop after having filled to low water level after the second rinse so you can add some chlorine bleach,
"delicate" button for a slower wash action and a higher water level,
and finally the start button and the cancel-all button.

Here is the thermostat going up to real 100°C (boiling point)
two pilot lights as we will see, one for filling, one for heating
(SUBTITLE: Starting it up)

We will start filling it up for a wash cycle of 50°C with spin.

You can hear the timer motor really well ...(muffled sound).. micro... (muffled) ...likewise....which is part of....(muffled or microphone covered)

(SUBTITLE: controlling wash time)
Here we go: Filling has ended. We can hear the switch for the heater and the corresponding pilot light goes on. That means: Now we can choose the wash time, here it is at 40 mins...

Apparently it was necessary to get familiar with this machine in order to choose a wash time that was sufficiently long to allow for a proper heating so that the chosen temperature could be reached.
And the user manual would give you a time table with the approximate values for this; As you can see: Chosen temperature, setting of the thermostat and minimum timer minutes that are necessary.
(timer advances): see!
Now there are about 6 mins wash time remaining
and you can see these typical little droplets on the lid.

The rotation of the drum is relatively slow at 30 rpm compared to later machines with their 50 rpm, likewise the spin speed is fairly slow with its 300 rpm.

(SUBTITLE: stepping of the timer, draining the suds)
Now pumping out the wash suds, well, each timer step is about 3 mins.

(SUBTITLE: beginning of first rinse)
(SUBTITLE: intermediate spin)
The balancing system: Little rollers help to counteract the forces of an unbalanced load. (my note: not 100% sure about this one)

(SUBTITLE: Quick advance of timer with spin button in OFF position)
We are coming to the end of the draining phase and as spinning is selected off...

(SUBTITLE: Final spin)
(SUBTITLE: fluff-up / anti-wrinkle)
Loosening the clothes after spin takes about 3 mins which corresponds to one timer step.
Here we go, the cycle has finished.

(SUBTITLE: Bonus)
And here is a little bonus: We're about to see a cycle at boiling temperature to give us a chance to see these marvellous little droplets on the lid, a nice remembering of childhood times.

(SUBTITLE: 60°C)
We are amidst a heated cycle....the temperature now having reached a little more than 60°C. You can already see those bubbles forming.
Now a bit more than 90°C.
(SUBTITLE: 100°C)
We are coming to the boiling point, the steam is coming out at the edges of the lid and unfortunately you don't have this childhood smell of a real bubbling laundry bath. The heater has turned off now which means that the boiling point is reached.

The lid is searingly hot.

Towards the end of the wash cycle the heater turns on again. That shows how effectively the thermostat works, due to a drop of the water temperature.
We are approaching the end of the cycle.
Now it's finished.
See you soon for a new demonstration.



Post# 585422 , Reply# 7   3/28/2012 at 04:56 (4,405 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
One Light Indicates

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The heater is activated. Not sure of the other.

Post# 585423 , Reply# 8   3/28/2012 at 04:57 (4,405 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Scent Of Boiling Laundry

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Ok, now am going to have to get out some of that vintage Persil and have a go with the Miele.

Post# 585444 , Reply# 9   3/28/2012 at 08:03 (4,405 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
A Bert

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Merci! C'est formidable! Votre machine est bel exemple!

Je veux le voir en personne un jour!

Question: La petite fenêtre enter les deux bouton a indiquer , a gauche c'est lavage ou chauffage? Est sur la droite est rinçage seulement?

Jean


Post# 585473 , Reply# 10   3/28/2012 at 11:47 (4,405 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Bonjour Bert!

That is a lovely machine. I guess it's a sister machine to the Vedette on the left? Are these machines from the same year?

I was wondering, I hear water flowing all the time, does this machine have a recirculation system?

I have really fallen in love with those French machines. European machine with an American style control panel!

Oh, and thank you Joe for your translation, my French isn't very good.

Salut!

Louis


Post# 585483 , Reply# 11   3/28/2012 at 12:50 (4,405 days old) by whirlpolf ()        
gearcirculation

hey Louis, thank you.

From what I could understand (or at least "hear") that hissing sound must be the timer gears and not any water being pumped around. My guess: brass sprockets.

Quite obvious to me as my Lavamat Nova Regina (1964) makes quite similar noises, while waaaayyyyy more silent than this (due to Nylon gears) it was still getting on my nerves a bit and I squeezed some all-purpose grease into them. Finished.

But to be on the safe side, ask Bert. The last time I saw a Vedette was when I was learning how to spell.
Joe



Post# 585484 , Reply# 12   3/28/2012 at 12:57 (4,405 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
European machine with an American style control panel

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I could not agree with Louis more, this machine and some of your other ones are so beautiful to look at and have air of high qaulity (mind most old machines do aswell) about them.

again well done on rescuing another excellent machine and providing us with a high qaulity video to watch

Gary


Post# 585507 , Reply# 13   3/28/2012 at 14:30 (4,405 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
French Top

Silly me, I first thought it was going to be a cast iron top heated from the center.

Post# 585736 , Reply# 14   3/29/2012 at 16:08 (4,403 days old) by koalas ()        
answers

Hi!

Many thanks and bravo Joe for your translation and your French that is perfect.

1) Yes, there are two lights between the two selectors:
- on the left for heating
- on the right for filling because there is only one box for soap and when you select a cycle with prewash, you must wait this light is off to introduce soap for washing.

2) In France, my washing machines are in Burgundy (in Dijon, the town of famous mustard!). I organize a convention ( june, 23 or 31 of september 15. This is now on line in my website. Of course, you will be very welcome if you can come and see them (or another day when you' re in France!).

3) The noise comes from the timer and it's normal (it existed in 1965!).

See you soon.

Bert



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