| Thread Number: 39538
New GE 3.9 cu ft. Agitator Washer |
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| Post# 586023 , Reply# 2 3/30/2012 at 23:38 (444 days old) by toploader1984 (macomb, michigan) | ||
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| Post# 586025 , Reply# 3 3/30/2012 at 23:39 (444 days old) by toploader1984 (macomb, michigan) | ||
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Post# 586027 , Reply# 4 3/31/2012 at 00:28 (444 days old) by tolivac  (greenville nc) |
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What kind of drive mechanism does it have?May have potential-as is the new WP belt drive.The new SQ just isn't available in my area. | ||
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Post# 586050 , Reply# 5 3/31/2012 at 07:08 (444 days old) by qualin (Calgary, Alberta, Canada) |
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Post# 586072 , Reply# 6 3/31/2012 at 10:18 (444 days old) by macboy91si (Lexington, KY) |
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 The control panel reads that its a Hydrowave machine. Also since when is "COLORS" a temperature. Also what strange increments in the control for the temp and I recall the switch clicks for phantom positions that aren't marked. Looking at that seam/joint in the SS tub I'm not terribly impressed there. Also many of these I see the SS is very dulled with use.
However, certainly seems to be a flexible machine and has a full-range water control dial. I question the reliability but with the crap shoot that overall recent GE laundry appliances have, it could last 2 or 10 years. Get out your dice... -Tim | ||
| Post# 586110 , Reply# 7 3/31/2012 at 12:53 (444 days old) by dogboy44 (Los Angeles) | ||
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This looks cheap. All the new stuff looks so discount. | ||
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Post# 586125 , Reply# 8 3/31/2012 at 16:44 (444 days old) by qualin (Calgary, Alberta, Canada) |
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Macboy, because it's a Hydrowave, I have no idea how long it'll last.
They did have issues with the mode selectors jamming in one position, so they'd be stuck in spin mode. As a result, the agitator wouldn't work properly and the inner tub would just spin back and forth. I do agree that these tubs do dull with use, I think that's just a fact of life. I think any Stainless Steel tub will. In saying that, don't let the tub weld discourage you, these tubs are built very well. Whether or not they could withstand a 1000 RPM spin is a whole other matter though. I don't really see a point to the ribbing on the inner tub though, I don't honestly see how it makes clothes cleaner. I also have to admit that the selection for "Colors" as a temperature is kind of unique. Maybe it's just a way to make things easier for the housewife. I will admit that is one thing that always bothered me about the GE's is how they have these dials with multiple detents that don't really do anything. For example, the "Super" cycle on my machine actually has three detents which can select the super cycle, even though it doesn't need them. My guess is that it's cheaper to put in multi-detent selectors and then set up the programming so that those positions all do the same thing. | ||
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Post# 586126 , Reply# 9 3/31/2012 at 16:46 (444 days old) by qualin (Calgary, Alberta, Canada) |
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Post# 586144 , Reply# 10 3/31/2012 at 17:57 (443 days old) by nmassman44 (Boston North Shore Massachusetts) |
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Post# 586162 , Reply# 11 3/31/2012 at 19:47 (443 days old) by ptcruiser51 (New Jersey) |
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 According to my GE factory rep, the raised ridges in the tub have nothing to do with cleaning. Their purpose is to add "area" to the tub so that more fabric comes in contact during the spin to maximize liquid removal. We don't have these models yet, they're supposed to come in to our THD within weeks. Some LG TLs use the same concept with raised circular bumps instead of ridges. | ||
| Post# 586173 , Reply# 12 3/31/2012 at 20:39 (443 days old) by supersurgilator (Indiana) | ||
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The "bigger" tub doesn't surprise me a bit, in fact that is going to be the only thing to save toploaders. If the tub has more cubic feet and the water consumption stays the same, the water factor goes down and therefore it will still meet the energy guidelines. | ||
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Post# 586185 , Reply# 13 3/31/2012 at 21:17 (443 days old) by petek (Sarnia Ontario) |
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Post# 586236 , Reply# 14 3/31/2012 at 23:50 (443 days old) by qualin (Calgary, Alberta, Canada) |
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To Petek:
You know, that was one of the things that bothered me about the new GE's. When I bought my washer in 2004, I was ignorant enough to think that I was going to get my hands on a Filter-Flo, without realizing that they had revamped the entire line about 6 years ago. It's kind of sad when you consider that rather than improving on the Filter-Flo technology and using computer aided design to make it all that much more better, they instead got rid of it all and just made conventional machines. It's like a step backwards in technology because they got rid of the lint filter completely. (Either that or it's an automatic one that I can't see?) I think with the advent of energy star, they could have fudged it a bit by keeping the Mini-Basket for those smaller loads. I think the move to Stainless Steel tubs is a really good move though. Back in 2004, only the TOL machines had them. Now it seems almost every GE Top loading machine has them, except for the cheapo plastic tubbed machines. I don't think that removing the Filter Flo tray was a bother at all... I certainly would like to hear from the GE engineers why the redesign didn't include this technology.. Maybe they didn't feel it was all that effective? | ||
| Post# 586248 , Reply# 15 4/1/2012 at 01:04 (443 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
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Post# 586421 , Reply# 16 4/1/2012 at 16:01 (443 days old) by qualin (Calgary, Alberta, Canada) |
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The pre-hydrowave machines seem to do a decent job.. but my FL does a much better job of cleaning since I switched. Mine always had a huge problem with dealing with lots of pairs of jeans. They'd just sit there and swish back and forth with no turnover. I'd actually have to underload the machine so I could get turnover.
I think part of the problem was the really short agitator stroke.. I think it's only about 30 degrees with the pre-hydrowave models.. Actual hydrowave models I think do a 360 degree stroke I think. I'm not sure how much better the turnover would be, but I can tell you, I wouldn't want to own a washer that sounds like a car alarm. | ||
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Post# 586463 , Reply# 17 4/1/2012 at 18:12 (442 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) |
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 I like the hydrowave wash system ..just wished it was made again more sturdy. And thats everyones wish with other brands as well. Anyway Bud according to GE the ribes in ther baskets which is not new .. is to squeez more water out of the clothes 20 percent more at 640 rpm's. Now there 700 rpm's.
In spit of the HE type water saving spray rinse system which is a Fisher & Paykel trait. The washer could be better if more water was not restricted... and it is a 360 arc in the agitation mode. Hey it is a washer that does not lock and easy to see with a magnet. The styling is today weather you like it or not. Again the QUIT thang people want unfortunetly.
Darren k 
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Post# 587026 , Reply# 18 4/3/2012 at 22:45 (440 days old) by qualin (Calgary, Alberta, Canada) |
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Post# 587643 , Reply# 20 4/7/2012 at 01:45 (437 days old) by qualin (Calgary, Alberta, Canada) |
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Jerrod, here was my experience...
Perfect Temp (At least on my 2004 vintage machines) meant that the machine would adjust the overall water temperature in the tub during the fill stage by cycling the hot or cold water solenoids on and off for a short period of time to make sure that the water temperature was proper. It didn't use a bi-metal strip to adjust temperature. I'm assuming there was a thermometer somewhere inside of the outer tub which sensed the water temperature. In my experience, when I selected a warm wash, it would occasionally cycle the cold water solenoid on and off, switching between a warm water fill and a hot water fill. However, if the lid was open, it wouldn't do this. During a cold water wash, it would cycle the hot water solenoid on and off, switching from a cold fill to a warm fill. I don't know the EXACT temperatures the machine uses, but my guess is about 140 F for hot, about 90 F for warm and about 45 F for cold. | ||
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Post# 594816 , Reply# 23 5/7/2012 at 08:55 (407 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney) |
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...why can't they use the mini basket and also re-introduce the sudsaver option? | ||
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Post# 594829 , Reply# 24 5/7/2012 at 11:27 (407 days old) by Maytagbear (N.E. Ohio) |
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NEWLY built American homes (1970 onward) generally DO NOT have room in the laundry area for storage tubs that one needs for suds return. You're lucky to get enough room for side-by-side installation. Lawrence/Maytagbear | ||
| Post# 595621 , Reply# 26 5/10/2012 at 22:53 (403 days old) by bwoods (Oak Ridge, Tennessee (formerly Dayton, Ohio)) | ||
 Just out of curiosity, is there any General Electric model (or any brand for that matter) that has a "warm rinse" setting.
Question 2: Aren't the U.S. Government Energy Star ratings based on a machine's performance in the "normal" cycle. Couldn't GE and other brands offer a warm rinse in a special cycle without losing their Energy Star Rating?? Apparently this concept works for a "2nd rinse option" as Energy Star machines, such the Ge in this discussion, have one. | ||
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Post# 596786 , Reply# 27 5/16/2012 at 04:41 (398 days old) by qualin (Calgary, Alberta, Canada) |
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To the best of my knowledge, no modern top loader made today has a warm rinse option.
However, my front loader has it, which kind of struck me as odd.. The whole entire point to a warm rinse was to prevent wrinkles in synthetic fabrics. It was especially handy on permanent press cycles. These days, if you want a machine with a warm rinse, you either have to go vintage or you have to buy a front loader with that feature. | ||
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Post# 596796 , Reply# 28 5/16/2012 at 06:19 (398 days old) by cuffs054 (GA) |
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My Frigamore stack has a warm rinse option, but it is all for show. Only the spray rinse is warm. The deep rinse is cold. | ||
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Post# 597119 , Reply# 29 5/17/2012 at 18:02 (396 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney) |
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Speed Queen still does. | ||
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Post# 597195 , Reply# 30 5/17/2012 at 21:21 (396 days old) by Pulsator (Go to Ferris State in Big Rapids, MI / Live in Ann Arbor, MI) |
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Post# 597249 , Reply# 31 5/18/2012 at 02:47 (396 days old) by qualin (Calgary, Alberta, Canada) |
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My Huebsch front loader has a warm rinse option, but even the highest end Huebsch machine they sell in Canada doesn't have a warm rinse option.
Heck, even my GE top loader from 2004 doesn't have a warm rinse option. The last time I saw a warm rinse option on a machine was on our 1982 vintage Inglis.. and it was very rarely used. | ||
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Post# 598096 , Reply# 32 5/21/2012 at 21:49 (392 days old) by kqkenmore (memphis tn) |
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