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Post# 586202   3/31/2012 at 22:16 (4,398 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Looks like the "obsession" was acting up today. I couldn't help myself but bring this home, I'll post more pictures when I get it into the basement.

Both a washer and dryer came home (along with a KitchenAid dishwasher but that's for another thread another time).

I'm not planning on keeping the washer and dryer, just want to play with them for a bit and hopefully send them off to a loving home!





Post# 586219 , Reply# 1   3/31/2012 at 22:36 (4,398 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Uh oh! I know what that light is from! It's a GE of course...NOT :-)

Post# 586220 , Reply# 2   3/31/2012 at 22:39 (4,398 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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THAT looks like it could be and early to mid-60s Lady K!
That said, I KNOW it's not a 1964 or 1965. Almost looks like it could be a bit later given the texturing on the panel.


Post# 586222 , Reply# 3   3/31/2012 at 22:44 (4,398 days old) by hydralique (Los Angeles)        
Nice . . .

Looks Lady K-ish to me as well, though I'd guess late '60s. I love the fabric texture background on the panel . . . can't wait to see the whole thing!


Post# 586223 , Reply# 4   3/31/2012 at 22:45 (4,398 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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The first version of the 1965 Kenmore 700 alphabet washer had a filtering light where mine just says "self cleaning filter". I wonder if Robert's new find is of that generation?

Post# 586234 , Reply# 5   3/31/2012 at 23:39 (4,398 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

I honestly find that's a really strange thing to have a light for.

If it went out, did that mean that it wasn't self filtering anymore?


Post# 586247 , Reply# 6   4/1/2012 at 01:03 (4,398 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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It might be a Whirlpoodle.


Post# 586252 , Reply# 7   4/1/2012 at 01:56 (4,398 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
Very cool

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Robert, I'm just to your south and will help you out if needed. I would be honored to give a Vintage W/D set a loving home for our esteemed Webmaster if he would give me the honor.
Nick WK78


Post# 586254 , Reply# 8   4/1/2012 at 01:59 (4,398 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Terrible tease!

Post# 586261 , Reply# 9   4/1/2012 at 03:29 (4,398 days old) by chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)        

Uni:

Looking at that light that is in that picture above, that has got to be a 1960's Kenmore.

If that is turns out to be that, then this must be a Kenmore weekend here at automaticwasher.org.

Gordon has just received a 1969 Kenmore Model 100 (24") that looks like a step-up model from the 1967 Kenmore 24" BOL Washer I grew up with.

I think your model is MUCH higher up in the line than those machines I just mentioned, being that it has a Self-Cleaning Filter on it.

--Charles--


Post# 586280 , Reply# 10   4/1/2012 at 06:10 (4,398 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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April Fool?


Post# 586283 , Reply# 11   4/1/2012 at 06:18 (4,398 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)        
Kenmore 70 or 700

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1966 Kenmore 70 or 700 or whatever the number was then, one alphabet dial, sliding water level, black polypropylene Super Rotoswirl, and that light to the right of the dial. There is a raised section of the control that has the corresponding letter and their cycle names. If this is THAT machine, this was the 1st washer I ever laid my eyes on in my grandparents basement. If you depart with it, please keep me in mind, this machine is very special to me.

 

-Tim


Post# 586302 , Reply# 12   4/1/2012 at 08:00 (4,398 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Since When

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where Estate Sales open on Sundays?? thought it was a saturday morn hobby...Lol

I`m going for teaser day as well!!



Post# 586359 , Reply# 13   4/1/2012 at 11:20 (4,397 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Well here we go, 1965 model 700 series model 7515712 washer. Dryer is an 800 model, in gas.

Post# 586361 , Reply# 14   4/1/2012 at 11:21 (4,397 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Both are in reasonable good shape...

Post# 586362 , Reply# 15   4/1/2012 at 11:22 (4,397 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Money shot, except for a minor chip, the basket just shines, the agitator also is very mint...

Post# 586365 , Reply# 16   4/1/2012 at 11:24 (4,397 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Dryer shows little sign of interior wear as well

Post# 586366 , Reply# 17   4/1/2012 at 11:25 (4,397 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Washer seems to work fine, the belt could be changed and the Control Magnet glides need some grease, but otherwise...

Post# 586368 , Reply# 18   4/1/2012 at 11:26 (4,397 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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And of course being a Minneapolis washer...

Save those suds! :-)


Post# 586370 , Reply# 19   4/1/2012 at 11:33 (4,397 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham))        

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oooooh! Sudsy!

Post# 586371 , Reply# 20   4/1/2012 at 11:38 (4,397 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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WOW.... VERY NICE!

 

Oh a Sudsy saver... I think I know who is going to DROOL all over these and grab them when you are ready to turn them loose (hint: He's just across Lake Michigan from you)

 

OR.... Robert, can you and Fred put them in your carry-ons when you come out in a few weeks??  Tongue out Laughing

 

Kevin


Post# 586377 , Reply# 21   4/1/2012 at 11:59 (4,397 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        
Robert,

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Of course it's going to be a suds-saver seeing it is from a Minneapolis or even a Minnesota estate.  Did you think that those thrifty Germans and Scandanavians would let all that hot water and detergent go to waste after just one wash?  NOT!!!  Does the suds return appear to be functional? 

 

Great find!


Post# 586380 , Reply# 22   4/1/2012 at 12:10 (4,397 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Does the suds return appear to be functional?

I assume it does, the suds valve works fine.


Post# 586381 , Reply# 23   4/1/2012 at 12:13 (4,397 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        

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Sounds like you need to keep this machine, and experience the joys of suds-saving. Innocent


Post# 586385 , Reply# 24   4/1/2012 at 12:28 (4,397 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Wounderful pair Robert !

Ooh they just follow you.. good karma.

For one of the most beautiful agitator system's in the world.

 

 

 

 

 

Darren k


Post# 586389 , Reply# 25   4/1/2012 at 12:34 (4,397 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Just once, just for me

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Return the suds and I'll never ask again.


Post# 586394 , Reply# 26   4/1/2012 at 12:53 (4,397 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Robert already has a suds saver. The 1957 pink Lady K will save suds. That said, I don't seem to remember a laundry tub sitting next to it though....

Post# 586396 , Reply# 27   4/1/2012 at 12:58 (4,397 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
Filter Light

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This seems be a feature that Kenmore put on their machines in the mid-60s. If I remember correctly, it is wired to light whenever the agitate wig-wag solenoid is engaged. For those who may not know, whenever that solenoid is engaged it pushes the agitate cam into place which also flips the pump direction lever to recirculate water (if the machine has a filtering provision).

Post# 586464 , Reply# 28   4/1/2012 at 18:29 (4,397 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Self-Cleaning Kenmore with Filter Light

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Yes the light was on when ever the washer agitate solenoid was energized, the light was a great way to show off this Great Feature. The only time that the light was a lie was when the suds water was being returned to the machine on SS models, as the light was on but the returning suds water was not being filtered as it was came back into the washer. The true back-wash SCFs were first installed on the 1958 LKMs and continued till the last belt drive KMs and WPs on some models [ only suds-saver machines on most models built after 1981 ]. This was by far the most effective filtering EVER used on any automatic washer, far surpassing the well known GE FF machines.

 

There was only one other TL washer that had a filter as effective as these WP built washers and it was a GE machine, it was GEs first automatic washer and Robert has the only one in existence. It is his 1947 GE that my brother Jeff and I rescued over 35 years ago and I traded it to Robert for a Westinghouse Combo that I gave to Jeff.


Post# 586469 , Reply# 29   4/1/2012 at 18:43 (4,397 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Another Great Find

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Wow, these are beauties (aren't they Gordon!)

It just shows to go ya that there are still more of these hiding out there!

Congrats Robert and Fred on these latest machines.

Patrick


Post# 586502 , Reply# 30   4/1/2012 at 20:44 (4,397 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Those really are sharp machines. I love Coppertone. There is something about a black agitator and that scrubber cap that really brings me back to the basics in my washer enjoyment. It's neat to know that such nice vintage machines are still out there to be enjoyed.

I hope you enjoy them Robert, then I hope too that the next club member likes them as well!

Gordon


Post# 586509 , Reply# 31   4/1/2012 at 21:19 (4,397 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Those Po' Kenmo'

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are right next to that LEAKY Frigidaire that hemorrhages water ALL Over the floors!

Quick someone rescue them from Roberts damp basement!!



Post# 586512 , Reply# 32   4/1/2012 at 21:32 (4,397 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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are right next to that LEAKY Frigidaire that hemorrhages water ALL Over the floors!

You're gonna get it for that one mister! hmmmmph, leaky indeed lol.


Post# 586525 , Reply# 33   4/1/2012 at 22:09 (4,397 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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What a great find!


And well worth the twelve hundred miles you had to drive to get it!!!



:-)


Post# 586548 , Reply# 34   4/1/2012 at 23:47 (4,397 days old) by A440 ()        

What a great find guys!
You actually bought a gas dryer Robert?
Did you hook it up?
What are the BTU's of the dryer? I could not tell.
This is the White Rogers Modulating Gas valve right?
You guys did really good today!
Brent


Post# 586550 , Reply# 35   4/2/2012 at 00:11 (4,397 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

I'd be curious to see how the console looks with the backlit dial lit up. Is the agitator plastic or bakelite? If plastic, I am betting that although a 1965 model, this was built in 1967; the only year of the plastic black Super Rotoswirl. Same for the dryer. Both the 1965 70/700 alphabet washer, and the 1965 800 were prolific models which continued through 1968. If what I am saying is right, how funny is it that someone buying a washer and dryer in 1967 would randomly pick out two 1965 models?

Congtats on the wonderful finds.
James


Post# 586581 , Reply# 36   4/2/2012 at 06:57 (4,397 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
I have the parts list for that dryer..

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...if you need it. I can scan it into a .pdf or mail it. I'd post the .pdf on here but I don't know how. The model number on the list says 110.650881 and it looks identical to this one although you say it's a model 800. I'm not sure if that's the same or not.

Post# 586586 , Reply# 37   4/2/2012 at 07:27 (4,397 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Nice scrubber cap! Very nice pair, I don't think I've ever seen this washer outside of a catalog before - love the coppertone!


Post# 586597 , Reply# 38   4/2/2012 at 08:24 (4,397 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Ugh, what a great looking set, in coppertone to boot! Greg is right, nice scrubber cap on this one, and the wash basket is just MINT.

Ben


Post# 586602 , Reply# 39   4/2/2012 at 09:00 (4,397 days old) by lesto (Atlanta)        

Great set. The coppertone is beautiful.

Post# 586607 , Reply# 40   4/2/2012 at 09:40 (4,396 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
KM 800 Gas Dryer

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Roberts NEW KM gas dryer should have a direct spark ignition modulating flame 25,000 BUT burner. For anyone that has not seen one of the modulating burners work you are missing out on the best burner system ever put in a gas dryer, AND only Kenmore ever had it. There were only a hand full of WP gas dryers and gas combos that ever got this feature.

 

With this burner the flame comes on a full 25,000 BUTs and an exhaust sensor bulb that is filled with a freon like gas heats up as the clothes dry. This building gas pressure in the bulb exerts pressure on a needle in side the gas burners main orifice to reduce the flow of gas, but the flame never goes out completely until the dryer gets to the cool down. The flame will actually tapper down to around just 3,000 BTUs but the heat is constant as the clothing finishes drying. With this system it is much liking on your stove top where you reduce the heat as the cooking process continues, rather than turning the heat on full blast and then turning it off and on off and on etc.


Post# 586609 , Reply# 41   4/2/2012 at 09:48 (4,396 days old) by A440 ()        

Thanks John for the information and the description of operation.
I have to agree with you on it being the best, and most logical for gas dryers.
Do you know why they quit using this type of system?
Doesn't some of the modern GE Gas dryers have this type of modulation burner? Seems like Robert's Harmony Dryer had one. I remember he had to replace the gas valve not long after he bought his set.

Brent


Post# 586610 , Reply# 42   4/2/2012 at 09:57 (4,396 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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The set has been spoken for, I knew it wouldn't take long. lol, they are pretty!

Post# 586614 , Reply# 43   4/2/2012 at 10:20 (4,396 days old) by locknspin ()        
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Robert,
I have been looking for an image for this washer for quite some time!!! We had the exact same washer....a suds saver in white. I remember the amber/reddish filter light and the timer dial had a light, too. We had purchased this from the old Sears in Highland Park, Michigan sometime in later part of the summer of 1968. Our prior Kenmore (1962) did not survive a horrible basement flood in the summer of 1967. We let it dry out for some time after the clean-up. It broke down less than a year later.
One unusual thing I remember about this model is that sometimes it seemed that there was a slight pause between the rinse fill and agitation. The filter light would come on and it would begin the deep rinse agitation. A great find. A great machine. Just seeing the picture awoke part of my brain that had been sleeping. Thanks again for sharing these treasures.


Post# 586618 , Reply# 44   4/2/2012 at 11:01 (4,396 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Hi Neal,

Welcome to our club! I know you were writing Robert, but I thought I'd chime in an say hello. I spent a lot of my childhood in Rochester, just down the road from you.

You must have had decent water pressure where your machines were installed? The reason for the pause in rinse fill is because most if not all belt-drive Kenmores have a one or two minute non-agitate pause in the rinse fill section of each cycle. During this time, even if the pressure switch is satisfied, the machine will not agitate. When the timer advances out of the pause, the first thing it does is activate the wig-wig solenoid circuit, which makes a cool noise. Then the motor comes on, water starts flowing through the pump, and a rush of belt-drive sounds happen in concert. But, I always like hearing the agitate solenoid first.

Most of the time, unless the machine is either set on a low water or there is tremendous water pressure, the machine is still filling beyond this timed pause. If anyone watches a belt-drive closely, you'll see the timer advance one notch during the rinse fill. It then stops advancing at that point as the timer motor is turned off, until the pressure switch is activated. The sound of the incoming water can often mask some of the other initial start up sounds.

Isn't it fun to see your childhood washer here? I hadn't seen mine from 1974 when we got our replacement Kenmore (from the Sears at the Oakland Mall) until 2008 when I joined the site. Enjoy!

Gordon


Post# 586621 , Reply# 45   4/2/2012 at 11:20 (4,396 days old) by locknspin ()        
Gordon

Gordon,
Thank You!!! The machine that this replaced was the EXACT model in your picture!!! Also purchased at Sears in Highland Park. We lived in Oak Park. City Water!!! Thank you for explaining the rinse pause. I used to wait for the "rush of sounds" and the light to come on at the same time. I love seeing this living museum of engineering and design. It is truly a rush to see appliances that we grew up with. I swear.... it awakens long dormant neurons!!! Thank you again for your welcome and sharing our interest in the KM.


Post# 586625 , Reply# 46   4/2/2012 at 11:47 (4,396 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)        
Childhood Machines

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I'm glad Robert posted this, this brings back many fond memories, hopefully someday I can find one of these. When I was at John Lefevers a while back, we found the exact machine in the 67 Sears Catalog. Ours was white, has the black poly Super Roto and black scrubber cap. I made a post back here a while back about trying to identify a childhood washer, this is the machine. Our machine was white, non-suds model. One dial and a slider with a red filter light. I remember the woo-woo this machine had, it was very loud, and filter light was worn down and cracked a little. I also remember the light would pulse with agitation strokes a little, it followed the sound. It was the 1st machine, my grandparents acquired the machine from some relatives who actually won a set of new machines in some sort of contest. We got this and a 1957/58 GE dryer with just the little control box on top. They lasted forever, my grandparents got the machines in 75 or so and they survived through the late 90's when the washer stopped working. The dryer to my knowledge never stopped working, but I was too young to take these and do anything with them at the time. I can still remember the basement of their house and the step ladder I used to watch the machine.

 

-Tim


Post# 586626 , Reply# 47   4/2/2012 at 11:47 (4,396 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Lock-n-Spin

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Is a GREAT screen name, BTW!

Welcome...

Malcolm


Post# 586676 , Reply# 48   4/2/2012 at 15:55 (4,396 days old) by locknspin ()        
Malcolm

Malcolm,
Appreciate the welcome. It was actually more like "unlock-n-spin." :) Always hated those safety switches!!! :) Bet I am not alone!!!
N


Post# 586928 , Reply# 49   4/3/2012 at 15:10 (4,395 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Robert:

Maybe you could get one of those HD single utility tubs and mount it on wheels and use it as a portable suds saver tub? That way it could be moved from machine to machine.


Post# 586949 , Reply# 50   4/3/2012 at 17:15 (4,395 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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Wow there seems to be an unprecedented amount of Michiganders around here all of a sudden

Post# 587203 , Reply# 51   4/4/2012 at 17:47 (4,394 days old) by laundryboy (Orlando Florida & Moravia NY. )        

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Beautiful set. I'm looking for the same ones.


Post# 587433 , Reply# 52   4/5/2012 at 17:14 (4,393 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i)        

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Awesome find! And what a beautiful scrubber cap! Seems like the ones I find out here in Cali are usually all mushed up and wrinkled...

Post# 587437 , Reply# 53   4/5/2012 at 17:38 (4,393 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Maybe you could get one of those HD single utility tubs and mount it on wheels and use it as a portable suds saver tub?

Nah, fresh suds for me thank you :-)



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