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Post# 586422 4/1/2012 at 16:01 (4,401 days old) by swestoyz  (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Sure looks like it to me! Des Moines - $150.
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Post# 586427 , Reply# 1 4/1/2012 at 16:22 (4,401 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Post# 586448 , Reply# 2 4/1/2012 at 17:40 (4,401 days old) by BrianL (Saddle Brook, New Jersey) |
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Post# 586503 , Reply# 3 4/1/2012 at 20:47 (4,401 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 586504 , Reply# 4 4/1/2012 at 21:02 (4,401 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Those are really neat Ben!! I am a little bit surprised (and enthused) that you're going to give them a home. We don't have a lot of platinum machines in the club.
Before I bought my Kenmores in 1986, I had bought a WP set a notch or two down from these, in Toast. Circuit City was selling the toast at the price of white, and white was on backorder. The washer had a temp knob instead of the push buttons, but was otherwise similar. Circuit C had matched that washer, a large capacity, with a 5.9 cu. ft. standard dryer. I cancelled these when I saw a sale at Sears, but I have often wondered what it would have been like to have that set. Funny that there are lot of the model above (I think it is an LA7680) but I have only seen one or two ever of the LA5580 that I had bought. Let us know how these turn out! Gordon | ||
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Post# 586506 , Reply# 5 4/1/2012 at 21:12 (4,401 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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AND THE SICKNESS CONTINUES | ||
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Post# 586541 , Reply# 6 4/1/2012 at 23:06 (4,401 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon) |
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But Ben.... | ||
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Post# 586600 , Reply# 7 4/2/2012 at 08:27 (4,400 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Where will you put them???
@ Patrick - I have NO idea. Seriously. I'm completely out of room even before I brought home that Westy fridge.
@ Jon - when you develop a cure for this disease (curse), please, let us know! @ Gordon - cool story, and to think, if you had gone toast, maybe you'd have more Whirlpools than Kenmores? :p I'll post photos of the set when I get home. Ben | ||
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Post# 586617 , Reply# 8 4/2/2012 at 10:58 (4,400 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Platinum WP Pair These were very popular machines here in this area and we still have customers with them, especially the dryer after the washers have been replaced. But you know the rule Ben one in and one goes out, but I am willing to give you a pass on the two out if you sell us one combination laundry appliance. | ||
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Post# 586620 , Reply# 9 4/2/2012 at 11:13 (4,400 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Gordon - cool story, and to think, if you had gone toast, ma
Hey Ben, LOL! Yep, I have wondered the same thing.
I have never been the most open-minded guy when it comes to the world of laundry and washing machines ("no really?!?! You don't say Gordon!") but when I bought that WP set, I was somewhat excited because the washer had a manual filter. I was not happy about the standard cap dryer, and I really wanted KMs like my Mother's. When the Sears sale came, I saw my chance. The dryer was a MUCH better deal - large cap., nice drop down hamper door like the soon-to-be yours platinum dryer, and with WrinkleGuard. It was $9 more expensive. The washer was also $9 more (I was making like $6 an hour, part time back then), but lacked one water level from the WP, but I didn't care, I wanted the KM. I haven't been sorry, but it would be cool to the toasties. I have never seen anything in a WP in Toast, though a have a couple KMs. G | ||
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Post# 586665 , Reply# 11 4/2/2012 at 14:34 (4,400 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Hey Gordon -
Is this washer more like the LA5580 Whirlpool you had ordered from CC?
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Post# 586669 , Reply# 12 4/2/2012 at 14:44 (4,400 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 586670 , Reply# 13 4/2/2012 at 14:53 (4,400 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Ben -
That is it exactly. Most all of those are standard capacity (LA5310 or LA5700/10), but the one I had selected was large capacity with the winged Surgilator. That machine is mid-80s (the Whirlpool indent on the cabinet is gone), so it could be! I think the 5700/5580 shared the same panel, though I don't know if they mention capacity on them like WP sometimes does. Love the Totally Awesome detergent - they must be frequenters of Dollar Tree or similar. Funny that you found this so fast. | ||
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Post# 586686 , Reply# 14 4/2/2012 at 16:46 (4,400 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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Post# 586790 , Reply# 15 4/2/2012 at 22:42 (4,400 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 586791 , Reply# 16 4/2/2012 at 22:44 (4,400 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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| Post# 586797 , Reply# 17 4/2/2012 at 23:35 (4,400 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
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| Post# 586800 , Reply# 18 4/3/2012 at 00:02 (4,400 days old) by lebron (Minnesota) | ||
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| Post# 586805 , Reply# 19 4/3/2012 at 01:12 (4,400 days old) by A440 () | ||
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Great Find! I remember wanting this set so bad! Back in time in New Orleans looking them on the showroom at D. H. Holmes department store. Seems like yesterday. Enjoy! Brent | ||
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Post# 587012 , Reply# 20 4/3/2012 at 22:04 (4,399 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Very quick update | ||
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Post# 587014 , Reply# 21 4/3/2012 at 22:05 (4,399 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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| Post# 587015 , Reply# 22 4/3/2012 at 22:07 (4,399 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
Two Pools in a sea of Frigis | ||
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Post# 587016 , Reply# 23 4/3/2012 at 22:07 (4,399 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 587017 , Reply# 24 4/3/2012 at 22:09 (4,399 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 587018 , Reply# 25 4/3/2012 at 22:12 (4,399 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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A bit of commentary - but honestly the magic 'finger' filter is one of the WORST designs Whirlpool came up with. Sure it may have been effective for a few months, but after awhile it becomes a moisture trap due to excessive soap and lint build-up, and was not accessible for cleaning without removing the tub. At least when Maytag went to a similar design in the early 90's you could remove the filters with the tub in place.
Built in obsolescence! Guaranteed new Whirlpool washer in 5 years. haha End of rant. 
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Post# 587019 , Reply# 26 4/3/2012 at 22:14 (4,399 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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After a few hours of cleaning off the cement left behind from Grandpa's dirty jeans, the tub looks good. I did some spot repairs using silicone to seal up the outer tub lip, and the rest of the washser will get thrown back together for a water test later this week.
I usually don't do a progressive clean-up post, but this seemed like a fun idea. I have a crazy idea for a video of this machine when I'm done, so if the water test works out, watch out! Ben 
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Post# 587028 , Reply# 27 4/3/2012 at 23:09 (4,399 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon) |
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Post# 587029 , Reply# 28 4/3/2012 at 23:11 (4,399 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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WOW Ben,
That machine wass really caked with residue. I have never seen one of those filters to ever look that bad. I am told that Charlotte has pretty decent water, but each of the filters I've seen have been clean, and their original color, even recently. I can see why you'd be annoyed by this one though, for sure. The rusty tub edges are a common thing in these reverse-curl tubs. They debuted in both standard and large capacity machines with the baseplate re-design in later 1981, and I've had a love/hate relationship with them. They are great because you can hook the tub ring clips to them anywhere...they fit even on areas on the tub ring where there isn't a special notch, so if a section is badly rusted, just skip it and put two clips on either side of the rust instead. They suck because the foam tub ring gasket retains moisture, and eventually just promotes rust. I don't think I documented it in pictures, but I have "rebuilt" those edges in a few machines with two part epoxy putty so they won't leak and so the tub ring gasket has a surface to rest on. If you use the putty with wet fingers it molds like pottery clay and can be made smooth and almost like an uninterupted surface from the original tub. From what I can see, your centerpost looks great! I don't know about the seals, but if there is no sign of detergent residue way up in the agitator, and there is no black grease splattered inside it, you're doing great. I said it before, but COOL MACHINE! Gordon | ||
| Post# 587033 , Reply# 29 4/4/2012 at 00:01 (4,399 days old) by badgerdx () | ||
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I love the tear down pictures. Very cool. Thanks for sharing them! | ||
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Post# 587052 , Reply# 30 4/4/2012 at 07:33 (4,398 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Early 1980s WP Belt Drive Washer Good Clean-up job Ben. The mineral build up you are cleaning away is not from Grandfathers jeans but rather it came in with the water supply. This type of build became a bigger problem as the 1970s progressed, first as they took the phosphates out of detergents and then as washers became much larger in capacity and they held much more water. As a result home makers that had been doing laundry for years did not adjust the amount of detergent they used per load and were using way too little. Many home makers had become used to the miracle of the phosphated detergents that became popular after WW-2 and as a result could get away with using 1/2 what the box suggested. Now I advise my customers to follow the detergent manufacturers direction carefully and to use the full suggested dose of cleaning products.
The Self Cleaning Filter Ring was a good idea that contributed to the good long life of this machine. One of the reasons that WP went to this design was as you can see that ANY filter system can clog [ How many times have we all seen a Maytag filter that was so encrusted that it had to be pried out of the agitator ] and the previous back-flush filters that WP & KM had used for decades would clog up and stop the washer from draining. This washer was actually able to keep working in spite of the abuse.
The rust around the top of the outer tub was as Gordon suggested became a problem when WP switched to a softer foam tub ring gasket. They did this because it made for a better seal initially but it did hold moisture in this area and that coupled with all the built-up that the user cased kept too much moisture in the machine. | ||
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Post# 587220 , Reply# 31 4/4/2012 at 19:10 (4,398 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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Post# 587289 , Reply# 32 4/4/2012 at 23:00 (4,398 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 587290 , Reply# 33 4/4/2012 at 23:01 (4,398 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 587292 , Reply# 34 4/4/2012 at 23:03 (4,398 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 587293 , Reply# 35 4/4/2012 at 23:04 (4,398 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 587294 , Reply# 36 4/4/2012 at 23:05 (4,398 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 587295 , Reply# 37 4/4/2012 at 23:06 (4,398 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 587296 , Reply# 38 4/4/2012 at 23:07 (4,398 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 587297 , Reply# 39 4/4/2012 at 23:10 (4,398 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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For the most part, this thing is functioning 100 percent. After several rinses a very small dribble started from the front left hand side. I'll inspect the sump tomorrow. Hopefully the seal between the outer tub and the sump is not the issue.
Otherwise, this has been a fun and quick clean-up of a belt drive Whirlpool. It has been years since I've cleaned one up, let alone had one hooked up at the house. The A712 Maytag that lost it's spot is not too happy right now... :) Ben 
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| Post# 587301 , Reply# 40 4/4/2012 at 23:23 (4,398 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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What a beautiful bedtime sight, Ben | ||
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Post# 587302 , Reply# 41 4/4/2012 at 23:24 (4,398 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon) |
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Post# 587309 , Reply# 43 4/5/2012 at 00:14 (4,398 days old) by oldskool (Kansas City, MO) |
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Great Tutorial Ben - you've done a great tutorial for these machines. While I've not done any extensive restorations in years, I find inspiration to go further on similar machines. Your finished product has the "Wow" factor. Great job! John | ||
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Post# 587332 , Reply# 44 4/5/2012 at 04:23 (4,398 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Ben -
GREAT machines. Its that fifth temperature and the white basket which takes these from the LA7680 to the LA7800. Very nice!! It was the LA7800 which apparently holds the distinction for being one of the last, if not THE last BD model in production. KMs were done in fall '86, but Whirlpool kept making certain models in limited fashion until April 1987, and the LA7800 was one of them. Yours was made in Clyde, Ohio in the first week of 1984. In fact, it is unit number 01399, so it may have been made the first working day of 1984. Some of the workers were probably still nursing hangovers. The stamping you see on the bottom of the agitator are called date plugs, and are put in there several years at a time. There is probably an 83, 84, 85, and 86, yes? The one with the dots in it is the active year, how many dots means how many months. This agitator could have been molded in December 1983 for sure since the machine was made the next week. Gordon This post was last edited 04/05/2012 at 04:45 | ||
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Post# 587333 , Reply# 45 4/5/2012 at 04:39 (4,398 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Love that last shot Ben | ||
| Post# 587334 , Reply# 46 4/5/2012 at 04:52 (4,398 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada) | ||
why the water is blue | ||
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Post# 587352 , Reply# 47 4/5/2012 at 07:39 (4,397 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL) |
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Post# 587364 , Reply# 48 4/5/2012 at 09:01 (4,397 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Platinum Whirlpool pair Good clean -up Ben they look great, the LA 7800s were the top model of the electro-mechanical machines only the LA9800s with electronic controls were more expensive.
And while the MT A712 may be unhappy just think how longer your clothes will last while still getting clean to say nothing of more wrinkle and lint free. | ||
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Post# 587368 , Reply# 49 4/5/2012 at 09:58 (4,397 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Thanks for the comments guys!
Jon - it's either the glacial water Eddie speaks of, or I just happened to spill a few cans of Hamms Beer into the mix. "From the land of sky blue waters..." Gordon - you know, I did look for a dot, but I was looking at the 85 and 86 stampings. When I take the tub out to inspect the leak I'll look to see if there is indeed a dot for December of '83. Love that the washer was produced the first week, if not the first production day, in '84! I can hear the headlines now... "A terrible snow storm blew over the northern counties of Ohio this week, causing many factories to cease production and travelers to find temporary lodging along routes 80 and US 20 for the New Years celebration. Factory production at the local plants may be further halted by large amounts of sickened employees. In other news, alcohol sales have all but tripled during the snow storm….” LOL John - considering the Whirlpool is now without a lint filter, I suspect all traces of lint to be tossed down the drain, while the Maytag still has a *chance* at trying to catch something that randomly floats past the filter... ;-) Ben This post was last edited 04/05/2012 at 11:06 | ||
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Post# 587477 , Reply# 50 4/5/2012 at 22:58 (4,397 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Lint Filters in washers In truth lint filters in any washer do not catch the majority of the lint that is in the water. But that said the WP without any lint filter will leave far less lint on a load that the A712 would for several reasons.
1 The WP has a far less damaging agitator towards the clothing so less lint is produced.
2 The WP has far larger holes in the basket which allows larger more visible lint to escape and go down the drain.
3 The neutral drain allows far more lint to go down the drain unlike the MT where the clothing is turned into a giant lint and floating scum remover as it tries to drain and spin at the same time and the dirty water is sloshing over the top of the basket and being pulled through the clothing over and over again. | ||
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Post# 587508 , Reply# 51 4/6/2012 at 07:15 (4,396 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 587514 , Reply# 52 4/6/2012 at 08:33 (4,396 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Oh interesting Mother Superior
"In truth lint filters in any washer do not catch the majority of the lint that is in the water."
So you've caught and drained and removed all the lint in the water? Just how much is left in the wash water? Say on a percentage basis?? 70% , 80%, 55%? My Bendix Duomatics don't need lint filters as they don't create lint in the wash or drying process. But they do catch nickels all day long!! "3 The neutral drain allows far more lint to go down the drain unlike the MT where the clothing is turned into a giant lint and floating scum remover as it tries to drain and spin at the same time and the dirty water is sloshing over the top of the basket and being pulled through the clothing over and over again." Just like my Sunbeam Coffeemaster! All that nasty coffee grinds are held back by the fantastic straining action of the "lint" screen at the bottom of the bowl, so to the clothes in a neutral drain Kenmore act like a nice coffee filter for all that Kenmore wash generated lint and soap scum that isn't removed by the built in lint filter on the machine. | ||
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Post# 587520 , Reply# 53 4/6/2012 at 09:30 (4,396 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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John - considering the Whirlpool is now without a lint filter, I suspect all traces of lint to be tossed down the drain, while the Maytag still has a *chance* at trying to catch something that randomly floats past the filter...
I too Ben would put that filter exactly where it belongs, in the museum of bad and cheap design lol. Into the trash it goes. Just like my Sunbeam Coffeemaster! All that nasty coffee grinds are held back by the fantastic straining action of the "lint" screen at the bottom of the bowl, so to the clothes in a neutral drain Kenmore act like a nice coffee filter for all that Kenmore wash generated lint and soap scum that isn't removed by the built in lint filter on the machine. I totally agree with you Jetcone Jon. And in my opinion the best lint filter ever produced was GE's 1947-1950 self-cleaning filter ring. Never a chance of it clogging as the lint is dispersed around the entire filter ring due to the very minor indexing of the tub during agitation. No place for it to clump up in one spot, and unlike the WP/KN self-cleaning filters which spit-out a huge clump of lint all at once which causes laundry sinks to clog over and over, the GE sends the lint down the drain in small sporadic pieces which prevents sink clogging issues. | ||
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Post# 587521 , Reply# 54 4/6/2012 at 09:31 (4,396 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Great job with the Whirlpool set Ben.
I got rid of that filthy lint filter on the 1984 Whirlpool set I did for Amanda and Dan too. In fact, the restoration went about the same for your platinum set. Funny how the same problems show up in the same model machines isn't it? See the link.... CLICK HERE TO GO TO rickr's LINK | ||
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Post# 587539 , Reply# 56 4/6/2012 at 12:05 (4,396 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Hey Rick -
I was actually thinking of their machine when I started working on this one, how fun! Hopefully Amanda and Dan are still using it. This post was last edited 04/06/2012 at 12:37 | ||
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Post# 587629 , Reply# 58 4/6/2012 at 20:37 (4,396 days old) by imperial70 (MA USA) |
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I want an Imperial 70, again. Sigh! Wish I could bump into one of those. Best Machine I ever owned. | ||
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Post# 587659 , Reply# 59 4/7/2012 at 07:26 (4,395 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Here's the filter system in Roberts | ||
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Post# 587678 , Reply# 61 4/7/2012 at 08:40 (4,395 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Was Doeskin much of a seller? It seems like this color was only available for a few years? I have seen it listed as an option on the parts list for my 1965 Lady Ks, but it wasn't listed on similar product from just a few years later.
Seems like I've seen a Kenmore dryer in Doeskin, and maybe a WP set in that color, and that's all I can remember. It doesn't seem like they were much of a seller, so that experience would have been considered when WP/KM made their marketing decisions regarding Toast. Toast and Platinum were considered "Today's neutrals" back in 1984. Doeskin may have been too similar to Almond? Gordon | ||
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Post# 587702 , Reply# 63 4/7/2012 at 11:37 (4,395 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Tom -
I checked the Super Searcholator on here by typing in "Doeskin". There is not even a lot of mention of it in all the years that are archived, but there are about three pics. A KM combo, and a WP set. Pretty cool stuff! I know the Doeskin was waaay older than Almond, but what I'm saying is that having them both simultaneously, ie. a revival of Doeskin instead of Toast in the 1980s, may have made two colors that are too similar, or better said, not different enough (almond and Doeskin). Finding a Doeskin appliance today, or a W/D set would be really something! Gordon | ||
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Ben your washer looks soooo good ! I still dont no what the wings at the bottom of the agitator do... Some say its for gentle action some say to help with large loads to roll over.. Your take or anyone ..?
I have to say the GE washer that Robert has seeing it in person the lint is really flushed very well. Ben that is the coolest color...and congrats on the pair again. Happy Easter. Darren k 
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Post# 587774 , Reply# 67 4/7/2012 at 15:36 (4,395 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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Post# 587779 , Reply# 68 4/7/2012 at 15:49 (4,395 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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I believe washerlover's '65 Lady K combo is doeskin. Love this color.
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