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Post# 93713   11/13/2005 at 07:34 (6,710 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        

aHA, so Frigidaire DID copy Youngstown Kitchens spray tube arrangement. I'm surprised Youngstown didn't patent it. And one wonders why Frigidaire made a success out of the idea and Youngstown didn't






Post# 93732 , Reply# 1   11/13/2005 at 09:17 (6,710 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        

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Didn't someone in the club get one of these not long ago?

Post# 93736 , Reply# 2   11/13/2005 at 09:28 (6,710 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Robert S?
Greg N?
Bethann?


Hello.......


Post# 93742 , Reply# 3   11/13/2005 at 10:33 (6,710 days old) by brent-aucoin ()        

I love that dishwasher.
I think that it was either Jeff or John in DC that found one. It was in amazing shape!
This is such a huge dishwasher! I love the way they have it higher up in the cabinets.
Don't you think that little missy in the ad is a little to young to be wearing such red lipstick? She might have been playing dress-up before she was yelled at to come and load the Youngstown!
Brent


Post# 93746 , Reply# 4   11/13/2005 at 10:41 (6,710 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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What, you don't wear lipstick to load the dishwasher Brent?

Jeff Lefever found one of these a year or so ago and has used it several times.

I don't know about all the patents and such, but I don't know as I would call either spray-tube machine a "success" but as with most early dishwasher design, time brought improvement. (if you listen closely, you can hear the air being cut by Rober's forthcoming SLAP!)

I always thought Frigidaire should have combined a lower wash arm with a spray tube under the upper rack (perhaps a smaller version) that would have made a great dishwasher with no loss of space in the lower rack for the spray tower as in the 60's & 70's machines.


Post# 93752 , Reply# 5   11/13/2005 at 12:14 (6,710 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)        
In the POD-

That is such an excellent installation. When I am able to, I would love a slightly elevated dishwasher.

I would think that an elevated installation might make any required servicing easier.


Lawrence/Maytabgear


Post# 93789 , Reply# 6   11/13/2005 at 17:31 (6,709 days old) by customline (pennsylvania)        
I'd love to have one!

Mounting the unit at eye level makes so much sense. Does anyone have one of these? How efficient is it? I want one NOW!

Post# 93802 , Reply# 7   11/13/2005 at 19:10 (6,709 days old) by brent-aucoin ()        

Yes Greg,
I do wear lipstick when loading my dishwasher.
I told you however to keep it a secret!
I am never telling you anything again.
Especially about me wearing heels when putting my linen out on the clothesline to dry. (so I can reach the clothesline)
Brent


Post# 93821 , Reply# 8   11/13/2005 at 20:26 (6,709 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Yes Brent dear. So you can reach the clothesline... LOL

Jon :-p (waiting for impending punishment)


Post# 93866 , Reply# 9   11/14/2005 at 06:58 (6,709 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Youngstown was primarily a cabinet manufacturer as in Youngstown kitchens. Next time the picture comes up, I would like for you to count the number of plates, salad plates, saucers and other flat ware in the bottom rack. Then look at the two tiny pieces of cookware and the few glasses and bowls in top rack and figure out how the load is representative of family dishwasher loads. It ain't. Even Frigidaire dealers who did kitchen remodeling were allowed BY FRIGIDAIRE to sell KitchenAid dishwashers because most people thought that they were better. In some ways they were and in some ways they were not. This information comes from a long time, long ago Frigidaire dealer in Ohio that John and I have talked with over the years.

Youngstown joined with Tappan and in later 50s to early 60s, Youngstown ads show Tappan cooktops and ovens. I don't know if Youngstown helped Tappan in the design of their first dishwasher, but I am sure that they would not admit to having two losing designs for dishwashers.

Greg is right and I, too, often thought that the spray tube was pretty good for the top rack, but there needed to be some water source under the bottom rack.

Maytag ads showed their dishwashers up on a low cabinet. They did not open at waist height, but were maybe a foot or more above the floor.


Post# 94055 , Reply# 10   11/15/2005 at 07:50 (6,708 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)        

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We had one of these and it was a POS. Replaced it about 2 mos after we moved into the house (house built 1960, replaced in 1978) It didn't have good space for anything but plates...there wasn't enough space for glasses and forget putting in any pots/pans. It was a big comedown even from a late-60s Sears roto rack in our old house.

It was interesting getting it out of the place because it was 30" wide--we replaced it with a KitchenAid 24" then built a shelf-thing to fill in the 6" of space.

This house had the original tan Youngstown steel cabinets which were overlaid with a fake woodgrain formica veneer. The oven had been replaced (by a coppertone Hotpoint self-cleaning) but it had a 33" wide Youngstown-Tappan coppertone cooktop. The controls were fixed 7 position clickers.



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