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Post# 591222   4/21/2012 at 14:14 (4,380 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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An Aussie repair person shares his views on sud saving washing machines.

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Post# 591228 , Reply# 1   4/21/2012 at 15:10 (4,380 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

If any of these observations are true, they certainly run counter to suds saver machines I have used and observed. If the proper detergent concentration is maintained, the soil is held in suspension. Also, you have to start with the hottest water available to compensate for the cooling between washes, unless you are washing non-colorfast garments. More detergent has to be added to subsequent washes to continue to hold the soil in suspension. I have seen some of the glop that is similar to what he writes about in the bottom of older Filter Flo machines, but we think it had to do with very cold water washing and liquid detergents, especially if the detergent was added to the machines before the load and before the water started entering the machine which would cause the liquid detergent to fall to the bottom of the outer tub where the cold water and lack of strong water currents prevented it from mixing. None of these machines were suds saver models. I would imagine that the situation in this piece is more due to people cutting back on water temperatures and lessening detergent dosage than the fact that the machines were suds saver models. Originally, users of suds saver machines had used wringer washers and knew how to wash multiple loads in the same water and knew about good laundering practices. I would imagine that well over 90% of people doing laundry in the USA today would not know how to make best use of a suds saver feature. Sounds like they have problems down under also.

Post# 591237 , Reply# 2   4/21/2012 at 15:36 (4,380 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Leaving the Lid up ...

Since many of these machines were kept in damp cold basements ... leaving the lid up was a good way to make sure the machine dried out after use, and didn't start to grow mold, mildew and other icky smelly things. I still do this, as my drivers are located in the basement.

Post# 591577 , Reply# 3   4/23/2012 at 10:40 (4,378 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        

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We do it out of sheer habit.  Our washer & dryer were previously in the basement, and now we have a first floor laundry room.  We leave the lid up for a day to let the washer air dry, then prop it partially open with an old liquid detergent measuring cap until next laundry day.  


Post# 591889 , Reply# 4   4/24/2012 at 19:20 (4,377 days old) by stan (Napa CA)        
One good thing about

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a wringer washer, no place for muck, or yuck to hide. LOL
I wonder if the repair man ever came to the conclusion that people are just nasty, and don't clean out anything?


Post# 591922 , Reply# 5   4/24/2012 at 21:53 (4,377 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney)        
That Aussie repair person...

...doesn't have a clue what he is talking about.

Post# 592009 , Reply# 6   4/25/2012 at 08:31 (4,376 days old) by ingliscanada ()        
Crockidile Laundree

I'd love to see Paul Hogan do a washer ad...

That's not a washer (some new BOL toploader)...
THIS is a washer (a vintage Kenmore, Frigidaire or Maytag)!

Gary


Post# 592024 , Reply# 7   4/25/2012 at 10:15 (4,376 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney)        
Sounds like they have problems down under also.

Yes we do.

It all comes back to cold water washing and from that perspective, what is written on that website, is correct. When cold water washing became common practice and in combination with the sudsaver function, it became a way to concentrate the body oils, soils and other organic crud with each re-use of the wash solution. Then consumers would allow their clothes to sit and soak for extended periods in that cold brew of coagulated biomass material, which would cause excessive gunk to collect between the inner and outer bowls and underneath the agitator. I can see why some would consider sudsaving unhygienic.

I used to own a washer with sudsave function and never had such problems. Then again I have OCD tendencies and mold, mildew and crud would never do.



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