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Post# 593170   4/30/2012 at 16:29 (4,350 days old) by in2itdood ()        

This story begins on January 16th about 10PM. Just a few hours before, I had purchased a 1949 WP dryer (my second vintage laundry machine) from Bygted. On TV, Family Guy has just ended and I'm getting ready to head off to bed (tomorrow is my birthday) ... when I hear the ding on the computer that announces "I got mail" ....

Much to my surprise, it's the nicest note from AW.org member Lebron (Jed) congratulating me on the dryer purchase from Ted ... and asking if I'd be interested in purchasing the MATCHING WP washer w/ suds saver? So after a quick change of underpants, I email Jed back to say ... of course I am interested ... and would love to hear details about the machine and see some pics. Within minutes, Jed shares AW archive thread 20440.. and we seal a deal! So now after a few months of planning where/ when to meet to make the exchange ... we worked with Robert and Fred to meet at their place in Minneapolis this past weekend.

So fast forward to my arrival in Minneapolis this past Friday about 8PM. I quickly find the house (there is a truck parked across the street with a washer in the bed) ... and within minutes I'm meeting 3 really great guys! After about an hour of introductory chit chat ... we are off on the tour ... Vintage everything everywhere! Fred has an amazingly displayed collection of Vacuums that occupy a spare bedroom and upstairs hallway space. I have never seen so many Hoover's in one spot in my life! I quickly find my Nanny's machine in the Hoover gallery ... as well as the Rainbow my mom had while I was growing up. What fun!

It was then off to the basement ... Jed in the lead with a HUGE basket of laundry destined to be split between the 2nd model GE automatic and radiantly glowing 57 pink LK. While we started those 2 loads of wash ... Robert and Fred made laundry magically appear that went into the FASCINATING APEX (must find one) as well as an early Frigidare (also very cool). I ran out to the rental van and brought in some extra packing blankets .. and soon had them loaded into the Whirlpool combo and Norge timeline. It is pretty cool watching each unique machine operate ... especially that darn APEX "gettin jiggy with it" (loved the fluff cycle) ... all the while Robert explaining each movement of the machine and what is happening with the mechanicals. Who ever thought doing so much laundry could be this much fun!!!!! Unfortunately, 2AM rolled around pretty quickly, and we all bleary eyed head off to bed.

7am the next morning saw me up, showering and doing the final tie down and packing of the 1950 WP (now affectionally named Winifred / Winnie). I finished that about 8AM, as the rest of the house started to stir and get ready for their exciting day of estate sales (see AW thread 40030). After a few hugs and good byes I was headed back east toward home ... arriving at my place about 10PM for
an 8 hour sleep in with 2 purring cats. Up the next morning ... the WP is unloaded into the garage ... (enjoy the pics) and I am headed back to the Apartment in Chicago for a week of work in the city. More to come this weekend when I am back home and can fire Winnie up in the garage! Hehehe.

Jed ,Robert and Fred .. I can't thank you enough for the great visit!





Post# 593171 , Reply# 1   4/30/2012 at 16:36 (4,349 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Home on the van ...

... ready to unpack

Post# 593172 , Reply# 2   4/30/2012 at 16:38 (4,349 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Off the back ...

and down the ramp

Post# 593174 , Reply# 3   4/30/2012 at 16:39 (4,349 days old) by in2itdood ()        
In the garage ...

keeping the Westy L5 company

Post# 593221 , Reply# 4   4/30/2012 at 19:54 (4,349 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)        

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Glad to see that you and the Whirlpool made it back. Here is a picture of the Kenmore after we replaced the pump.

Post# 593313 , Reply# 5   5/1/2012 at 07:07 (4,349 days old) by in2itdood ()        
lol

Looks like the WP surgilator got subbed in too !

Post# 593391 , Reply# 6   5/1/2012 at 12:10 (4,349 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
WOW Scott!

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VERY NICE!   Congrats!   Winnie sure is purrdy!

 

Kevin

 


Post# 593454 , Reply# 7   5/1/2012 at 15:49 (4,349 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Thanks Kev!

I hope to post more pics this weekend whan I am home. I want to give Winnie a good workout on Saturday if I can =)

Post# 593462 , Reply# 8   5/1/2012 at 16:21 (4,349 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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It was great to meet you Scott, I'm glad you got the Whirlpool home safe and sound.

As for the Lady Kenmore, she needed a new pump, she was getting bogged down during the spray rinses and couldn't remove the water with the basket spinning. After Jed and I replaced it the Lady was much happier. I gave Jed his choice of agitators, there were lots to choose from, but the white Super-Surgilator it was!


Post# 593525 , Reply# 9   5/1/2012 at 22:01 (4,348 days old) by applianceguy47 ()        

Wow, the Pank is awesome !


Post# 593742 , Reply# 10   5/2/2012 at 17:39 (4,347 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Hi Robert ...

Great to meet you and Fred too! Hope to visit again soon! I am going to work on Winnie this weekend!

Post# 594224 , Reply# 11   5/4/2012 at 16:51 (4,345 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Pop the top, $ shot!

Look at that top! The agitator is sporting the spare cap ... I'll keep the painted one Jed gave me tucked away for special wash in occasions. =)

Post# 594739 , Reply# 12   5/6/2012 at 23:01 (4,343 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Coming soon !!!

More pics tomorrow!

Post# 595135 , Reply# 13   5/8/2012 at 17:36 (4,341 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Through the pump door ...

I didn't have time to move the wp into the basement this past weekend ... so hope to do that this weekend. I did take her for a test drive .. and she works really well... and so quiet. Here is a picture of the internals throught the pump door ... look at the gleaming mechanicals! I do have to repair the pump hose.

Post# 595195 , Reply# 14   5/8/2012 at 21:45 (4,341 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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Glad you got this machine Scott, I can't wait to see it sometime. I am starting the reassembly of my very similar 1952 WP washer. The pump in your picture is the Suds-Miser return pump, I just finished glass beading the same pump at Smittys shop for my washer. It scares me when I think how rare some of these parts are as I am doing this restoration. Post more pictures, John


Post# 595898 , Reply# 15   5/12/2012 at 06:54 (4,338 days old) by in2itdood ()        
She moves into the basement today!

I can't wait!!!

I will post more pictures John! =)


Post# 596012 , Reply# 16   5/12/2012 at 19:08 (4,337 days old) by in2itdood ()        
She sure is a heavy Gal ...

... and she has now made it into the basement ... unscathed! The fun will begin soon! Hope to have pictures posted tonight or tomorrow!

Post# 596019 , Reply# 17   5/12/2012 at 20:08 (4,337 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Save and sound

Though my newly painted floor did get a little scuffed ... 5 minutes with a paint brush will fix that!

Post# 596023 , Reply# 18   5/12/2012 at 20:17 (4,337 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Close up ...

I can't than Jed enough for this machine! She is just sooooo beautiful!

Post# 596073 , Reply# 19   5/13/2012 at 00:30 (4,337 days old) by westingman123 ()        

Oh, that is pretty! It looks a lot like the machines in "Mother Takes a Holiday." Love the styling of these early machines.

Post# 596268 , Reply# 20   5/13/2012 at 20:52 (4,336 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Some other pictures ....

Babies got back ..

Post# 596326 , Reply# 21   5/14/2012 at 00:08 (4,336 days old) by badgerdx ()        

That is a pretty machine. Speaking as a dyed-in-the-wool font geek, I'm LOVING that nameplate.

Post# 597589 , Reply# 22   5/19/2012 at 18:27 (4,330 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Home in the morning ..

Hope to have more pictures to post ... Winnie may get a new hose tomorrow!

Here is a pic of the cycle dial I had forgotten I had...


Post# 597591 , Reply# 23   5/19/2012 at 18:28 (4,330 days old) by in2itdood ()        
And the temp dial...

Love it!

Post# 597666 , Reply# 24   5/20/2012 at 00:54 (4,330 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        

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Scott,

Great machine! I can see why you like it so much. Is this one of the machines referred to as a "frogeye"?

Nice classic belt drive. Enjoy it in good health!

Patrick


Post# 598054 , Reply# 25   5/21/2012 at 17:28 (4,328 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Thanks Patrick

Yes ... I'm totally in love with this machine. I sarted to work on her again last night when I got home from NYC ... hope to have more pic's soon.

Post# 598099 , Reply# 26   5/21/2012 at 21:59 (4,328 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)        
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Scott, may I ask what you do that requires such travel, you really do seem to pop up all over the place...

 

I have to say you are certainly a go-getter in you appliance acquiring, really roping in some nice ones.

 

-Tim


Post# 598209 , Reply# 27   5/22/2012 at 11:18 (4,328 days old) by in2itdood ()        
My Gig

Ha... I do travel a lot with work ... I project manage architecture and design projects.

I also like to hop in the car and drive, so I can plan mini weekend trips around a washer (or other) fun purchase.

I have been so lucky to find the machines I have so far ... it has all been good luck and goodwill. I just really need a few more machines to fill the gaps. Once I reach my maximun ... I'll use the Robert rule ... one comes in, one goes out.

I have to say, so far everyone from the club has been great to meet and very helpful ... especially loud and clear thanks to Gordon, John, Graham, Jed, Robert, Fred and Ted.

scott







Post# 599608 , Reply# 28   5/29/2012 at 06:56 (4,321 days old) by in2itdood ()        
I had a few spare minutes

So I pulled out he pump hose that needed replacement

Post# 599609 , Reply# 29   5/29/2012 at 06:59 (4,321 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Under Winnnie's skirt pic one:

So clean and pristine!

Post# 599610 , Reply# 30   5/29/2012 at 07:00 (4,321 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Pic two:

Up close and personal:

Post# 599642 , Reply# 31   5/29/2012 at 10:05 (4,321 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)        
Reservior?

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What's that thing to the left with a drain plug? Is this a suds pump or something similar?

Fascinating machine!

-Tim


Post# 599652 , Reply# 32   5/29/2012 at 10:56 (4,321 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Yep ...

Suds pump ... the plug is in the "top hat" which stored a tiny bit of water to prime the pumb upon suds return ..

Post# 600612 , Reply# 33   6/2/2012 at 18:43 (4,316 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Hi Tim!

She is a beauty! I'm sooo pleased with her

Post# 600807 , Reply# 34   6/3/2012 at 19:18 (4,315 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Hose replacement ... Grey 2 Black

Jed gave me a spare black drain hose ... which has now become the new suds return hose. The original (yes absolutely original from 49/50) hose was too brittle to save.

Post# 600808 , Reply# 35   6/3/2012 at 19:20 (4,315 days old) by in2itdood ()        
After surgery:

Worked great!!! (Actually got the idea from Combo52)
Ready for the next task =)


Post# 600956 , Reply# 36   6/4/2012 at 13:24 (4,315 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)        
Scott...

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What a gorgeous and CLEAN machine, I can't wait to see you get this up and going, the 1st gen WP and KM automatics are just gorgeous.

 

-Tim


Post# 600980 , Reply# 37   6/4/2012 at 16:27 (4,315 days old) by in2itdood ()        
So True!

I have a first gen Kenmore flat top too ...(see my Three Ladies Thread>Karen). Hope to do a side by side comparison at some point.

scott


Post# 601001 , Reply# 38   6/4/2012 at 18:40 (4,314 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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How on Earth did I manage to miss a thread with such a fun, punning title? The Whirlpool is a truly beautiful machine---congratulations on having a matched set. The best part: Winnie The Pool is ten years older than me. I feel so young, LOL!

Post# 601152 , Reply# 39   6/5/2012 at 09:42 (4,314 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Hehehe

I can be crafty at times Eugene.

Post# 601157 , Reply# 40   6/5/2012 at 10:25 (4,314 days old) by MaytagA710 ()        

This is a really REALLY clean machine you have there Scott. Congratulations on the rare and excellent find! And good job on the restoration.

Just think, this is the one that started it all for the belt drive machines...


Post# 601184 , Reply# 41   6/5/2012 at 12:13 (4,314 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Thanks Kevin ..

She is a a beauty ... Probably my favorite machine at the moment =).
I can't say Thanks to Jed enough for offering her to me!!!


Post# 601188 , Reply# 42   6/5/2012 at 12:29 (4,314 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Can't wait to see the suds-miser working.

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Is this the model where the lid pops and the buzzer sounds when the load is done?

As a kid, the guy across the street used to wash on Thursday nights in this very machine--give or take a year or two. On his, the W in the middle lit up. This is the machine that hooked me forever on suds-returns and spray rinses.

Scott, I couldn't get enough of his Pool, and completely understand how you're smitten with it.


Post# 601243 , Reply# 43   6/5/2012 at 15:41 (4,314 days old) by in2itdood ()        
I believe the lid will pop up ...

I know the cylce buzzer sounds ... but I'm not sure if the lid pops open yet. I do have to do some work the timer motor ... it has to be manually advanced at this point. I'll be home on vacation soon, and I hope to hook her up for a full fledged Whirl ... soon.

Post# 601640 , Reply# 44   6/6/2012 at 23:11 (4,312 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)        
I can't say Thanks to Jed enough for offering her to me!

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Scott, I cant tell you happy I am for you and to see the Whirlpool up on here getting some much needed attention!

Having used this machine as a daily driver for a small period... never once did it cycle buzz or have the lid pop open. Then again I never had the lid closed. The timer motor is easy to access on this machine. If you look in the archives you will find a thread where I go "under the hood". Gl!


Post# 602121 , Reply# 45   6/9/2012 at 09:31 (4,310 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Thanks Jed!

I'll try to make a video at some point =)... she is the first machine I am going to get completely operational and restored.

Post# 603618 , Reply# 46   6/14/2012 at 15:49 (4,305 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Home for the night ...

and went to buy some new hoses ...

Unfortunately, the guy at the part store looked at me like I had 3 eyes and nose warts when I told him I needed a suds ruturn house for a 1950 Whirlpool. He did have mico fische that went back that far ... but no luck on the part I was after .. I guess I have to be creative. =)


Post# 605333 , Reply# 47   6/21/2012 at 14:31 (4,298 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Any one have some spare black rubber goose neck drain hose?

Or can suggest a place to look for it ... heading to Home depot later to try =)

Post# 605339 , Reply# 48   6/21/2012 at 14:49 (4,298 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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Wow - I was re-reading this thread 'cause I have the 'Kenmore cousin' version of this washer now, so I thought I might get some service ideas...

About the hose,  you might scare one up at a thrift store like Salvation Army or Goodwill (I have found a number of replacements that way) and you can probably substitute a later version.   I don't know a great deal about suds saver machines, but I remember the Inglis (Canadian Whirlpool) washer at a friends house had the suds saver feature and the suds return hose seemed to be a regular drain hose with a rigid section about a foot long with a bias-cut end (it looked like it had been cut to use as a spear!).  The long-end hooked over the laundry tub and I guess the cut end allowed it to rest on the tub without blocking the the hose opening. 

I am going to need one of these myself,  and if I can find anything that might work for you, I'll pick it up! 

I think making a substitute one may be the way to go.... 

Last thought - if you have a used-appliance dealer (or dealers) nearby, check with them.  They sometimes keep spare parts that have now gone out of current use.. 

First one to get their suds-saver hooked up and running wins!  LOL


Post# 606189 , Reply# 49   6/25/2012 at 12:39 (4,294 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Thanks Paul!

I have been looking around ... I did find some rubber hose ... no goose neck yet ... so the search continues =).

scott


Post# 607952 , Reply# 50   7/3/2012 at 14:10 (4,286 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Hose woes ...

Have been solved for now ... pics coming soon!

Post# 608222 , Reply# 51   7/4/2012 at 11:36 (4,285 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Rubber Gooseneck's

Are harder to find than hen's teeth ...

Post# 609757 , Reply# 52   7/11/2012 at 21:22 (4,277 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Can anyone tell me ...

What the funny little nipple is for on the hose shown above... it's on the lower right part of the gooseneck hose. thanks! This hose came off one of the time line machines (non sudsy machine)

Post# 612106 , Reply# 53   7/24/2012 at 19:29 (4,264 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        

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I think I know what it is if I am seeing the hose right


There is a plastic coupler that connects the gooseneck to the straight part of the suds hose

My Maytag suds saver washers have a connector like this in the suds saver hoses



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