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Post# 595654   5/11/2012 at 01:38 (4,362 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

Guys, do you remember I've posted a link to a Whirlpool washing machine exploding a few days ago?

Well, somebody please explain me the american copyright laws.

The owner of the machine bought it, paid for it and it exploded. He made the video himself.

It wasn't a video made by Whirlpool.
Is it possible to Whirlpool claim copyright rights? What does the law says? (Robert, you're the best to explain it after that wonderful post about copyright you've posted a few weeks ago)

If the manufacturer has the copyright rights for videos made by consumers showing products they have already sold, soon the consumers wouldn't use the Youtube to show people what happened to their machines. Even worse, if this is a fact, we should appear naked on every videos, otherwise GAP or Nike or whatever clothes brand would claim the rights because we're wearing a t shirt made by them and it appears on the video. That's scary.

Now, the link to the video simply shows "i'm sorry, this video was removed due to blah, blah, blah whirlpool corporation.





Post# 595679 , Reply# 1   5/11/2012 at 05:56 (4,362 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Naked?

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A naked washing machine video? Who would pay attention to the machine? :D

Still, I think it is terrible that the video was removed from YT. I'm sure Whirlpool didn't appreciate the free advertising...

Malcolm


Post# 595692 , Reply# 2   5/11/2012 at 08:08 (4,362 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

He can always file a counter claim.

Post# 595701 , Reply# 3   5/11/2012 at 08:44 (4,361 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Is it possible to Whirlpool claim copyright rights?
No absolutely not, unless Whirlpool made the video.

I suspect the person who made the video needs to file a counter claim, there are thousands of reports of companies and individuals abusing the YouTube Take Down Notice system, most of the abuse is coming from the Music and Entertainment Industry, this is the first I've heard of it from a manufacturer. I never saw the video so I don't know anything further.


Post# 595702 , Reply# 4   5/11/2012 at 09:22 (4,361 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
And update to my previous post...

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Wait a minute, I found that post here in the Deluxe Forum where the video that was removed by WP is linked to, in that post it says...

The room looks like a testing rig and much of the notation on the side of the machine is illegible.

That makes me think that this video was taken in Whirlpool's testing facilities itself which makes me think it is a Whirlpool video that someone got a hold of and posted. If that is true, then WP is well within their right to have that video removed.

Is this the video you are referring to...?



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Post# 595724 , Reply# 5   5/11/2012 at 10:58 (4,361 days old) by ruba-dub-dub ()        
This was probably not a copyright issue...

I am not a lawyer, but this was probably ordered to be taken down due to a trade libel claim. The intentional defamation of Whirlpool's product could harm their commercial standing. I haven't seen the video, but if a camera was ready to film the explosion of the washing machine, it was probably a set-up. Whirlpool would understandably not want their washing machines to be presented as safety hazards.


Post# 595725 , Reply# 6   5/11/2012 at 11:02 (4,361 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

Thanks for the info Robert!

Yes, that's the video.

But the comments on it clearly said that the video was made by a consumer that had the same problem and decided to buy another machine and use a camera to register every load he washed. Untilll it exploded and was caught on camera.

Unless the person who posted and did that comment lied, it seems that whirlpool is trying to hide something.


Post# 595727 , Reply# 7   5/11/2012 at 11:06 (4,361 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

If it was a test performed by Whirlpool, I totally agree.

I have in my computer some old crash test videos from Elux and this week i had access to a crash test from Mueller. Of course I'd never post anything or comment because I understand that information belongs to the company and it would reveal some industrial secrets, unless the crash test is intentionally made as a marketing feature, like many car manufacturers do.

But...

If that video was really made by a consumer... I believe that the manufacturer has no right to try to remove it.


Post# 595770 , Reply# 8   5/11/2012 at 14:21 (4,361 days old) by coldspot ()        

Ok if this works go here hold your mouse over the video do not click it it should still play.

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Post# 595777 , Reply# 9   5/11/2012 at 15:19 (4,361 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Yes that video preview clearly does not look like it was done in someone's home. I suspect it was done in WP's testing facility and they shot the video. It probably leaked out by an employee and Whirlpool has every right to have that one taken down if they in fact shot the video.

Post# 595783 , Reply# 10   5/11/2012 at 16:01 (4,361 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

Thanks guys!

I've downloaded it... :D



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