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Post# 595842   5/11/2012 at 21:15 (4,338 days old) by sbolen ()        

Hi
I've been searching the internet looking for information on a dishwasher we are inheriting and happened upon this forum.

We are purchasing a house in a couple weeks that will be coming with a pretty sweet looking Waste King dishwasher. It doesn't work (though I don't know if it can be fixed, the inspected didn't spend too much time looking at it). I thought I had a picture of the inside, but can't seem to find it. However, as I remember it doesn't appear to have the top rack.

We would like to try to sell it to offset the cost of a new one. If its not able to be sold, we were wondering if its possible to somehow take the front off this and attach it to a new dishwasher (maybe a new dishwasher with top controls??)

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Post# 595851 , Reply# 1   5/11/2012 at 22:33 (4,338 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
WOW

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I've never seen that Model.

Love the "Bold " "Waste King" logo.

Any Interior shots ???


Post# 595854 , Reply# 2   5/11/2012 at 22:41 (4,338 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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This is the very first version of these machines. Like 1958 or so I do believe.

Post# 595855 , Reply# 3   5/11/2012 at 22:46 (4,338 days old) by sbolen ()        

I thought we had an interior shot, but cannot seem to find it. I'll have to look on our camera. We close in a week so won't be able to grab any more info or pictures until that time. The outside definitely looks nicer than the inside.

Post# 595876 , Reply# 4   5/12/2012 at 00:40 (4,338 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Isn't this a single wash-arm model, Bob? I think Tom has one of these...


Post# 595877 , Reply# 5   5/12/2012 at 00:41 (4,338 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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2nd panel picture

The logo-knob is super cool -


Post# 595880 , Reply# 6   5/12/2012 at 01:10 (4,338 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Yes it is. You ought to know, you've seen it (them ) in person. This was their first model. The 2nd series included the TOL that's in a POD my parents bought in like 1960 or so. It moved to the new house with us.

Post# 595900 , Reply# 7   5/12/2012 at 07:08 (4,337 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Cool Old Waste King DW

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Even though a very cool looking machine your idea of reusing the front on a new interrogated control machine would be a neat way to get a classic look and still have a DW that actually works. WK DWs were not that popular and it may be quite a challenge to get and keep this machine running.

 

As much as I usually do not recommend Bosch and similar style Imported DWs it might be easier to attach the panels from the WK to one of their machines because they are much less deep and attaching the old panels on the front would not cause the DW to stick out beyond the counter top.


Post# 595902 , Reply# 8   5/12/2012 at 07:40 (4,337 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Neat machine! Thanks for sharing with us.

Actually, neither of ours has the lights that this one has. They are single wash arm machines. The lower rack has plate loops extending from the 12, 3, 6, & 9 o'clock positions with an opening left in the center. The top rack in the earliest models did not have pins and only a divider or two along the right side. There was no detergent dispenser, just a little platform on the door where it was placed. The wash arm has very fine holes and, I guess because of them, a layer of suds was left when the wash water drained. The drain was followed by a minute or so purge where waher sprayed in from the left to kill the suds then it went through the two after rinses. Drying was most unusual in this machine. I believe it was the first to use what I think they called "cool wall condensation" to dispose of the steam instead of venting it out into the room. I think the pump is energized briefly twice during the dry, like at midpoint and shortly before the end to pump out the condensed steam.

This was the first dishwasher of friends in a new apt. I remember being there once for a meal and watched it being loaded. Of course everything was rinsed down to the glaze on the china before it went in. I remember that she put the top bowl of the Cory in the lower rack so that it hung from the centermost loop over the center opening, but since there were no dishes blocking water to the top rack and nothing had any food except for the scum in the Cory's top bowl, any disturbance it caused to the water distribution was not going to affect cleaning. When the dry was finished, the dishes were as hot as if they were emerging from a kiln.


Post# 595903 , Reply# 9   5/12/2012 at 07:41 (4,337 days old) by appnut (TX)        
Indicator lights!!

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I would never had imagined that panel had those little lights. "on" "fill" "wash+rinse" "dry-drain" "heater".

Post# 595905 , Reply# 10   5/12/2012 at 08:01 (4,337 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

By 1960 or so, there were gray buttons shaped to fit into that same space to chose various cycles, or parts of the only cycle, in the TOL model.

Post# 596013 , Reply# 11   5/12/2012 at 19:50 (4,337 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Who!

Made these, and how did they work, I have never seen one before, definately not a Southern thing!

Post# 596014 , Reply# 12   5/12/2012 at 19:54 (4,337 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Ugh that is such a beautiful dishwasher, I would love to find one of those someday!!

Post# 596015 , Reply# 13   5/12/2012 at 20:06 (4,337 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Hi Robert!

Where was that made, I have seen pictures of them in old magazines, but never any ad,s or other info, it is neat looking!

Post# 596018 , Reply# 14   5/12/2012 at 20:07 (4,337 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Did Anyone notice!

The beautiful countertops and stainless edges!

Post# 596030 , Reply# 15   5/12/2012 at 21:00 (4,337 days old) by bigalsf (Salt Lake City)        
Very cool!

Our first dishwasher was a 1961 Waste King; it had 3 cycles: Full Cycle, Pots/Pans, & Rinse/Hold. It had the same bottom and top racks as described for this machine. My mom seemed to like it; i was not allowed to touch it! :) It had a vertical pump with a drain valve that functioned in a smilar fashion to the horizontal mount GE pumps, but when the valve was actuated the force of the water against the gate valve caused a very loud, distinctive "thunk"! It was replaced when the aluminum pump housing rotted out (the achilles heal of many Waste King machines). Mom bought a KitchenAid KDI 17.

Waste King was based in Los Angeles and eventually became part of Anaheim Manufacturing; at some point in their history they became affiliated with Thermador. When Bosch aquired Thermador the WasteKing brand was eliminated (someone please correct me if my info is off).


Post# 596040 , Reply# 16   5/12/2012 at 21:35 (4,337 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Alan, both our families had the same model. Ours was purchased in 1960. I"m impressed yours lasted well enough to end up replacing it with a KA17 series. Which would mean 11-14 years. Ours only lasted until spring of 1968. Our had its life cut short by the extreme hard water we had in Houston, the area we moved to in 1961 when we jmoved the dishwasher after it had been purchased in 1960.

Post# 596078 , Reply# 17   5/13/2012 at 01:21 (4,337 days old) by A440 ()        
Beautiful!

I don't care how it washed! What a beautiful machine!
Knock Out!
I love the detail!
Brent


Post# 596083 , Reply# 18   5/13/2012 at 01:32 (4,337 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
Waste King

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Garbage Disposals are still made for commercial use. We have 2 of them @ VFW post 6208. There is a model 750 in the disposer cone before the Hobart AM-9-T2 dishwasher upstairs in the main kitchen. There is another 750 in the 2nd kitchen before the Hobart AM-11 Dishwasher. These disposals can grind up anything as well as the aformentioned dishwashers can sanitize anything.
Nick WK78


Post# 596093 , Reply# 19   5/13/2012 at 04:33 (4,337 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Close?

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Post# 596123 , Reply# 20   5/13/2012 at 09:15 (4,336 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)        

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We had a similar Waste King dishwasher when we lived in Air Force housing.  The housing was built in 1958/1959 and included GE 30" range, refrigerator, filter-flo washer, and dryer.  However, the dishwasher and the garbage disposal were Waste King.  I never understood why the two brands, but I figure the plumbing contractor supplied both of these items while all of the other appliances were furnished by the general contractor and separate subcontractor.  I have no memories of the particular model, it was my first experience with a dishwasher.  Based on comments I've seen here and on what I do remember, it was loud.  We always closed the doors to the kitchen when it was running!  The only specific memory I have is of one occasion when I removed a drinking glass from the dishwasher immediately after it finished the cycle, I held it under the cold tap, and the glass shattered in my hand.  This could have happened in the dead of winter, when the water would have been very cold; regardless, I never did that again.

 

I've attached a picture, taken in 2005, of a unit identical to our house (although ours was reversed) when I re-visited the base. 

 

Lawrence


Post# 596138 , Reply# 21   5/13/2012 at 12:28 (4,336 days old) by alsaroy (New Jersey)        
Waste king dw

My Mom had a Waste King dishwasher circa 1972. It had a full stainless steel interior, and panel front for wood to match her new ( redone) kitchen. Yes it was loud. The controls were somewhat limited for a dw of that era. It had four buttons for only three cycles rinse and hold, pots and pans, and normal wash. It had a timer dial but you could not move the timer it was behind a clear plastic cover. The fourth button started the machine. You had to hold the button about five seconds which would advance the timer dial to start the machine. There was no way to cancel a cycle early. But I figured out that I could pry the cover off of the timer dial and then move the dial with my fingers to advance the cycle. The difference between normal wash and pots and pans was just that the pot cycle turned off the heated drying. Very limited functions for a supposed top of the line and very expensive dishwasher. It lasted about 14 years with a few repairs, but was replaced by a Whirlpool

Post# 596159 , Reply# 22   5/13/2012 at 13:52 (4,336 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
IIRC Consumer Reports Did Not Highly Rate WK DW

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Have a series of CR's "Buying Guides" from the 1980's and Waste King dishwashers were down on the bottom of ratings.

Post# 596185 , Reply# 23   5/13/2012 at 15:44 (4,336 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Those were different machines. They did not even have filters and they had large holes in the wash arm(s). These late 50s machines had filters made of aluminum that were not super fine, but the wash arms had small holes so they really sprayed. When we first looked at DWs, I asked daddy if the Waste Kings were made by Hobart since KA & WK were the only two wash arm machines on the market in the late 50s. These in the late 50s did not excell in performance either but there were a lot of machines at that time period with only one wash, two rinses and a dry along with no electric detergent dispenser. I think the way CU framed the lower ratings was that the following machines might be satisfatory in a home willing to do more preparation of the dishes before loading them into the machine. Funny, I never read an owner's manual that suggested stopping the machine before DRY and restarting it with a fresh charge of detergent although many "Pots & Pans" cycles of the late 50s into the 60s did essentially run the machine through the regular cycle without the dry portion so it would have been easy enough to repeat the cycle.


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