Thread Number: 40300
To Rinse or Not Rinse - Dishwasher Story |
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Post# 596585 , Reply# 3   5/15/2012 at 03:29 (4,335 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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It will start to eat up the dishwasher insides instead.
The only thing one pre-rinses are pots or pans with very badly burned on messes that one does not wish to run through the P&P cycle. Otherwise scrape, load, fill with detergent and let the machine have at it. Kind of reminds one of that old Maytag commercial where a young girl watches her mother pre-rinsing and loading a sink full of dishes into the dishwasher. Daughter: I thought the dishwasher washed the dishes. Mother: It does Daughter: Gives her mother a funny and perplexed look. Voice Over: It does if it's a Maytag! LOL* |
Post# 596597 , Reply# 5   5/15/2012 at 05:07 (4,335 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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DW detergents contain some caustic/powerful chemicals to act upon the grease, fats, oils and other soils found on dirty dishware. If there is nothing for the said detergent's chemicals to act upon the buffering action caused when soils meet detergents does not happen. Thus IMHO you have a much more powerful detergent/water solution than otherwise.
Another way to think of it is when one washes one's hair with shampoo. For generations directions stated one should "lather and repeat", which more often than not left you with dry and tangled hair. The first lather removed soils/dirt from hair, the second with nothing else to work upon went after whatever scalp and or natural oils found. |
Post# 596599 , Reply# 6   5/15/2012 at 05:50 (4,335 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Leave it to Channel 2 (KPRC) for something like this. Not the journalism integrity of what they had when I was growing up. The Heights is a very old sectoin of town and wouldn't surprise me has low water pressure. I would say it's not getting enough water pressure to properly fill. And that's a bol GE/Hotpoint.
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Post# 596631 , Reply# 8   5/15/2012 at 08:53 (4,335 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )   |   | |
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Hubbys a prerinser, I'm not. He won't stop. A few weeks ago, with the new KA, We loaded a near bobload of unrinsed really dirty dishes, pots etc. I purposely put things in there with lots of extras left on etc. Well when the cycle ended there was one small glass bowl that had a speck of food about the size of a match head under the lip of its handle and everything else was spotless, to him that was enough to warrant rinsing everything everytime.
And he's not a clean freak by anymeans.. you should see how ballistic I have to get to get him to clean "his" toilet bowl. |
Post# 596702 , Reply# 10   5/15/2012 at 15:25 (4,335 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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My Mom is a pre rinser too. I've told her that our dishwasher works great and the loads I put in I don't rinse UNLESS it's something really stuck on there. All solid food particles either go into the disposal or the trash. But, she's stuck in her ways. I usually use a lot less detergent in the dishwasher if the load that's in there she pre rinsed. Really no use for it since there's nothing left for the machine to clean off.
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Post# 596713 , Reply# 11   5/15/2012 at 16:06 (4,335 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)   |   | |
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Post# 596735 , Reply# 12   5/15/2012 at 19:31 (4,335 days old) by parunner58 (Davenport, FL)   |   | |
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We never pre rinse, we do scrape into the disposal but not rinse. My GE Profile would have gotten that egg off with the pan in that position. That must have been cheap no-stick cookware, my Tfal or Calphalon don't stick like that. My KA Superba in my profile picture would have gotten that off to, I miss it so much. The motor burned up in June of 1997 at the age of 14 years.
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Post# 596738 , Reply# 13   5/15/2012 at 19:44 (4,335 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 596745 , Reply# 14   5/15/2012 at 21:22 (4,335 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Before dishwasher detergents had enzymes, but now that most TOL and even MOL ones do it does not make sense. Given proper cycle times and water temps, today's enzyme enhanced detergents will get off egg and much else one can throw at them.
The only case one could possibly see for pre-rinsing some especially nasty dishes if the dw is not run often, say in a single person home where it can take several days to build up a full load. Even when dishes are allowed to sit for days on end have had no problems in our Kenmore 18" and using (vintage with phosphates) Cascade. |
Post# 596805 , Reply# 15   5/16/2012 at 07:31 (4,334 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Lots of things wrong with that "test" but, though not specifically mentioned, it does illustrate that many conditions vary from house to house, machine to machine, etc. It was good in that they used a typical dishwasher in a typical house. Both sides of the rinse - no rinse debate were affirmed in the piece and it harmed no one. That's exactly what 'time filler; feel good; make you smile' pieces are for. That skillet was loaded wrong, but how many hundreds of thousands of dishwashers are running right now loaded exactly the same way? The debate goes on...and will forever.
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Post# 596808 , Reply# 16   5/16/2012 at 07:58 (4,334 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 596844 , Reply# 18   5/16/2012 at 12:07 (4,334 days old) by gmmcnair (Portland, OR)   |   | |
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Post# 596872 , Reply# 19   5/16/2012 at 14:26 (4,334 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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Pre rinse, if it wont wash the dishes, I dont want it!!!! |
Post# 596884 , Reply# 20   5/16/2012 at 15:01 (4,334 days old) by jakeseacrest (Massachusetts)   |   | |
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I just ran a load in my 2000/2001 Maytag that included a plate with egg yolk from yesterday morning, a pot with macaroni and cheese residue, and bowls that also contained mac and cheese. No pre-rinsing, Cascade with 6.4% phosphates, normal wash with temp sense = spotless dishes. I should have taken a pic and sent it to that news station.
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Post# 597755 , Reply# 22   5/20/2012 at 11:50 (4,330 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)   |   | |
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So far no word from the reporter, Amy Davis. |
Post# 598901 , Reply# 25   5/25/2012 at 13:40 (4,325 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)   |   | |
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Post# 599012 , Reply# 28   5/26/2012 at 04:25 (4,324 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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