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Post# 596859   5/16/2012 at 13:16 (4,356 days old) by kristid ()        

I need a timer for this washing machine circa 1948. Can anybody refer me to a place where I can get one? I'm new to this group so thanks for any help you can give.




Post# 596863 , Reply# 1   5/16/2012 at 13:55 (4,356 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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May I ask what symptoms is the machine showing that the timer needs to be fixed?


Post# 596941 , Reply# 2   5/16/2012 at 19:29 (4,356 days old) by kristid ()        
symptom

doesn't run but used to. The electrical cord tested good and the repairman said the next thing to try would be to replace the timer...

Post# 596949 , Reply# 3   5/16/2012 at 20:44 (4,355 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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It if the machine is completely dead but the cord is OK, it could be the on/off pull/push contact in the timer.

It could be as simple as finding this contact and giving the points a good but gentle sanding. Finding a new timer for this machine is possible, but it most likely wouldn't be easy.

By coincidence there is a Westinghouse Timer Repair manual for download in our Daily Doctrine Dispenser today, please see the link below...


CLICK HERE TO GO TO Unimatic1140's LINK


Post# 596950 , Reply# 4   5/16/2012 at 20:48 (4,355 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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It may a long shot, but my CLB-6 initially wouldn't run due to a bad starting capacitor on the motor. Not sure if the L4 had a capacitor-start motor, but the L5 I once had did, so I'd guess yes...

Of course the machine conked out again and that was the fault of the timer - the push-pull start contacts described by Robert were the culprit.

Don't despair! It can be fixed!!


Post# 596978 , Reply# 5   5/17/2012 at 01:09 (4,355 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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Kristi, welcome! I have a couple questions.

1. Can you please post photos of your machine?

and 2. What part of CA are you in?

Thanks!
Kevin


Post# 597036 , Reply# 6   5/17/2012 at 10:47 (4,355 days old) by kristid ()        
no push/pull on this machine

This machine only has a dial - to be turned off you set it at off, otherwise, when you simply turn the dial, that's what turns the machine on. I bought the timer service manual someone recommended - only to find out it's for a 1967 model and my washer is 20 years older.....
Anyway, here's a picture.
Thanks everybody for helping me.


Post# 597037 , Reply# 7   5/17/2012 at 10:50 (4,355 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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No push pull, are you sure? I've never heard of a Westinghouse washer without a push pull timer.

Please do this, with the machine plugged in please give the timer dial and good HARD pull outwards. Pushed in is off, pulled out is on.

And no, that timer service manual is generic enough to cover timers from 1940's thru the 1970s.


Post# 597038 , Reply# 8   5/17/2012 at 10:51 (4,355 days old) by kristid ()        
To Kevin

I'm in southern Cal, Idyllwild

Post# 597039 , Reply# 9   5/17/2012 at 11:08 (4,355 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
Thank you.........

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THANK YOU for posting the photo!  

 

That is the same model washer my grandmother used to have!!   I have fond memories of watching it!

 

By the way... I sent you an e-mail.

 

Thanks!

Kevin




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Post# 597170 , Reply# 10   5/17/2012 at 20:03 (4,354 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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I have this same model and the timer dial does push in to turn it off and you pull it to start. Often it is a little hard to do this and the timer shaft may need a little drop of oil of other suitable lubricant right where the metal shaft enters the timer.


Post# 597187 , Reply# 11   5/17/2012 at 20:40 (4,354 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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I have this washer too, if your dial isn't pulling in or out as described, it sounds like you may have found your problem. Try as John suggested with the drop of oil on the shaft - only a tiny bit though, more is not better on a timer.


Post# 597214 , Reply# 12   5/17/2012 at 22:54 (4,354 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

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We had the model before (double door) and after (stylish door) this one. Both pulled to start.

The covers come off the timer non-destructively (2 sides) and some internal refurbishing is possible if needed.


Post# 597230 , Reply# 13   5/17/2012 at 23:35 (4,354 days old) by kristid ()        
thanks to all

you were so right!!! with some effort the dial did pull out and the machine started right up!!! I'm so excited. I haven't used it for a while so I need to run a full test cycle, but at least I know it's not dead. THANK YOU everyone....
kristi


Post# 597235 , Reply# 14   5/18/2012 at 00:42 (4,354 days old) by stan (Napa CA)        
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happy ending!

Very nice machine!

Happy washing



Post# 597238 , Reply# 15   5/18/2012 at 01:52 (4,354 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

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Experience the earthquake spin solenoid! It will scare you even when you're expecting it.

Might do a hot water fill and tumble but then pause. Hopefully the hot water will renew the pump seal. It's still available if not.

That machine is only 2yr younger than I am. Trust me, I have trouble with my pump seals too.


Post# 597276 , Reply# 16   5/18/2012 at 07:33 (4,354 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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you were so right!!! with some effort the dial did pull out and the machine started right up!!! I'm so excited. I haven't used it for a while so I need to run a full test cycle, but at least I know it's not dead. THANK YOU everyone....

Yay, great to hear, enjoy that wonderful vintage washing machine Kristid! The Westinghouse Laundromats are beautiful machines.


Post# 597278 , Reply# 17   5/18/2012 at 07:42 (4,354 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Woohoo!  I'm glad it's working again - I love my Westy too.  Whenever I have a gathering, people are always pulled to that cute machine as it's pretty iconic from the era with the slant-front design. 


Post# 597282 , Reply# 18   5/18/2012 at 08:55 (4,354 days old) by golittlesport (California)        
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Nice machine and glad you have it running again. Looks like you have the matching dryer also?

Post# 597290 , Reply# 19   5/18/2012 at 09:42 (4,354 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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Oh cool!!  Congratulations on getting this working again!!


Post# 597327 , Reply# 20   5/18/2012 at 14:05 (4,354 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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Kristi,

Yay it's working again! Congrats!

I sent an e-mail to the one you listed in your profile, did you receive it?

Thanks!
Kevin


Post# 597332 , Reply# 21   5/18/2012 at 14:57 (4,354 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Good info!

I'll give a little dab to the timers on the L5 and the new L6 this weekend when I get home.

Post# 597434 , Reply# 22   5/18/2012 at 23:51 (4,353 days old) by kristid ()        
Bad News - another problem

So I started a washing cycle today. It filled with water but wouldn't start to spin. It hums the whole time and when I tried to spin the tub manually, the humming increased but then a small amount of smoke appeared out of the right side of the machine so I turned it off. There was a peculiar smell, but it didn't really smell like something was burning so much. This machine has not been used for a really long time. Can anyone give me some direction? Thanks
BTW, Kevin, I didn't see your email....


Post# 597440 , Reply# 23   5/19/2012 at 00:54 (4,353 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

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So the motor doesn't run at all? Only hums? This model had no capacitor so you can eliminate that.

It doesn't take much friction to prevent a 1/4HP motor from starting. A vicegrip pliers and your hand can do it. I've done it.

I'd say, put a good grade of electric motor oil (NOT "3 in One") in the oil holes (I think these motors had them) and let it soak in for 24 hours. Then see if you can free the shaft with vicegrip pliers.

It's also possible the start switch is open and the motor is free to turn. But without the start winding it will only growl. To an extent, that switch is accessible for maintenance by taking the motor apart. Not as big a chore as it sounds.

If that motor cannot be made to run, it is a very common/standard size and should be readily replaceable.


Post# 597443 , Reply# 24   5/19/2012 at 01:02 (4,353 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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If you heard the loud snap of the spin solenoid first, then you can probably eliminate that as the culprit.  If you didn't hear it -- and you for sure would not have missed it -- then the solenoid could be bad, or stuck, which probably equals bad.


Post# 597444 , Reply# 25   5/19/2012 at 01:08 (4,353 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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It filled with water but wouldn't start to spin.

When you say doesn't spin, do you mean the wash drum doesn't turn at all or only turns at low speed for wash and doesn't spin at high speed?

I suspect you mean it doesn't turn at all. You need to pull the machine out and remove the back and see if the belt is slipping or if the motor isn't turning at all. If the motor doesn't turn at all but the transmission pulley itself turns easily, as stated above the motor start switch probably is stuck and needs cleaning and lubrication.



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