Mueller Special has finally hit the market.

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Mueller Special has finally hit the market.

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Post# 600199 5/31/2012 at 22:59 (358 days old) by thomasortega (Brazil)
Guys, the Mueller Special has finally arrived on retail stores and websites in Brazil. The machine is simple as I said some weeks ago, but has some very interesting features like the removable drum and the quick access door. Even better, it uses LOTS of water for a decent wash and incredible rinsing performance. I've been getting PERFECT results since the first load I washed in it. Their website's English version is already working too and can be visited at www.mueller.ind.br/... for more information. The tv ad was released yesterday and it's also available on youtube (link below) More videos and pictures soon, including some washes using american detergents. Enjoy! CLICK HERE TO GO TO thomasortega's LINK

Post# 600224 , Reply# 1 6/1/2012 at 04:40 (358 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)
*Am I right in thinking/reading.....* I have looked at there website, and: ....The machine tub is only 30l, yet holds 7KG?? Surely that is impossible.

Post# 600226 , Reply# 2 6/1/2012 at 04:49 (358 days old) by foraloysius (Groningen, the Netherlands)
It says the water capacity of the drum is 30 liters, that might be something different. The spinspeed of 800rpm is very low compared to modern European machines. In NL the lowest spinspeed is probably 1200rpm. Machines with lower spinspeeds might be available in the warmer parts of Europe.

Post# 600227 , Reply# 3 6/1/2012 at 04:49 (358 days old) by qualin (Calgary, Alberta, Canada)
This is a really unique machine... I like the removable tub. :) It makes me wonder why more manufacturers don't do this.. Although, the song from those youtube videos is going to give me nightmares.. "Do da doodle da dooo....."

Post# 600230 , Reply# 4 6/1/2012 at 05:03 (358 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)
*Plastic drum - Spinning* I think the machine can only spin at 800rpm, because any faster the drum would crack, as its only plastic! or maybe miss shape itself. The basket idea is good - but a normal machine that uses metal would probably be too heavy for people, especially the elderly, which would then mean, they don't buy it, and then there is less sales for the manufacturer etc.

Post# 600232 , Reply# 5 6/1/2012 at 05:32 (358 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)
Is the small porthole locked during the spin ?

Post# 600233 , Reply# 6 6/1/2012 at 06:05 (358 days old) by foraloysius (Groningen, the Netherlands)
The removable basket is not new. We saw the Titan with removable baskets in nice bright colors. IIRC Chestermike has a Titan.

Post# 600234 , Reply# 7 6/1/2012 at 06:11 (358 days old) by chestermikeuk (Cheshire, England, UK)
*Interesting..* Now Thomas get your camera out, we need to see pics inside & out - it looks a very interesting machine..am wondering how they have stabilised the unit - concrete blocks / weights?? Having used the Titan, the FIRST Removable Drum Washing Machine, I think the novelty would soon wear off. The machine has 3 tubs, the outer tank, the inner tank which revolves and acts as the carrier, and the 3rd drum which is removable and holds the clothes.... What is the motor like and where is it positioned?? Yes, I wondered about the the sliding door port, just see a little kiddie adding his teddy and an arm going missing!!

Post# 600239 , Reply# 8 6/1/2012 at 06:58 (358 days old) by brastemp (Brazil)
@foraloysius agree with you. Mueller says on website that the basket is removable exclusivity, is nothing more than a copy of Titan.

Post# 600294 , Reply# 9 6/1/2012 at 10:52 (358 days old) by chris74 (Germany)
*Since Titan is no more...* ... it's an exclusivity. I wonder how stable it is. In Germany we call things like that "Plastikbomber"... :-) It's a pity that one can't view the catalogue or the manuals in English...

Post# 600296 , Reply# 10 6/1/2012 at 11:14 (358 days old) by thomasortega (Brazil)
The removable drum is excusive by Mueller (because it's the only manufacturer producing it nowadays) It was the first in Brazil too (Nobody ever said it was the first in the world) Mueller actually got inspired by the Titan. But the construction is very different. About the spin speed, it's only 800 rpm to be safe but it has an excellent extraction (thanks to the drum diameter). Note that in our weather, nobody really needs extra high spin speeds. Of course in europe (cold weather) this can make a huge difference on drying times. water consumption is 30 liters EACH FILL, considering the highest level selected (It has 3 water level options) The water level is really high and you can see the clothes really tumbling under water. The quick access door doesn't have a lock. It was made to grant quick access to the drum at any part of the cycle. For safety, it has a pull and twist handle. Even spinning at top speed, the sensor detects the door opening and stops the drum completelly before one have time to put a finger in the machine. When the door is closed and the handle relocked, the machine resumes the cycle exactly where it stopped. The Brazilian safety standards say that the drum must stop completelly in up to 7 seconds. Special stops in 2 or 3 seconds. The main door has an electric lock that prevents accidental opening/flooding/scalding. The motor is under the main tub and the machine has concrete blocks like any other front loader. Different from Titan, it has only the outer tub and the drum. The coupler looks like a huge tripod which each leg fits pricisely along the drum baffles. On each end there's a pressure bucke and on the drum there's an extra safety tab that keeps the drum on it's place. It impossible to make any kind of mistake when coupling/uncoupling the drum. More pictures and videos as soon as Mueller authorizes me to post them... Probably by the middle of next week.

Post# 600297 , Reply# 11 6/1/2012 at 11:19 (358 days old) by thomasortega (Brazil)
it's stability is also impressive. as it's made of plastic, the whole cabinet acts like a huge sponge, dissipating the energy. the sides of the machine can vibrate, but it never jumps or walks. it also has a metal frame below the plastic cabinet and three accelerometers that are active during all of the spins. the machine is also very quiet.

Post# 600450 , Reply# 12 6/2/2012 at 05:19 (357 days old) by dave886 (united kingdom)
its says it holds 7kg dry weight! which very good drum size 70liter drum where as in Europe we measure drums by wet weight for example 11kg = 78liters when really its 8kg dry weight i believe. i really like the look of this machine and the quick access door good idea but is it really safe?

Post# 600464 , Reply# 13 6/2/2012 at 07:08 (357 days old) by coldspot (ky)
I like the looks of the washer and everything about it so far. Only thing I do wonder will the quick access door leak over time?

Post# 600478 , Reply# 14 6/2/2012 at 07:25 (357 days old) by foraloysius (Groningen, the Netherlands)
The quick access is above the water level, so most likely it will not be prone to leakage.

Post# 600511 , Reply# 15 6/2/2012 at 13:08 (357 days old) by thomasortega (Brazil)
Yes guys, the quick access door couldn't be safer. to open the door, the user must pull the knob and twist the door. The machine detects when the knob is pulled and stops. until the door is open enough to make a needle reach the drum, it's already stopped completely. Even if the user intentionally try to reach the drum it's impossible... The worst situation would be the machine spinning at 800 rpm with an empty drum. as empty drums take more time to stop because of the 100% perfect balance, maybe the user can reach the tub spinning at less than 30 rpm. The machine really goes from 800 RPM to 0 in less than 3 seconds. that's less than half of the 7 seconds allowed by the national standards. The know has also a very heavy spring so children aren't strong enough to pull it and unlock the quick access door. also, the door doesn't move as easy as appears on the video. the wheels that make it possible to twist create some kind of resistance to take more time to open it. The main door also has a different kind of lock that requires pressing the handle to close it (the same way you press to open) the main handle also has a strong spring that makes it really hard to press. Even with the machine off, children can't open or close the door. I'll post a video explaining how it works then you'll see it's impossible to reach the drum before it stops completelly. it's also much above the water level so, there will be no leaks. The only situation that can make the quick access door leak is with oversudsing. But it happens only under extraordinary situations. I've made the test using Omo (it makes 3x more suds than regular Tide.) I used the Tide scoop to measure it and I needed 3 full scoops to make the machine leak. The door leaking would be the same situation as any other front loader overflowing suds by the dispenser drawer. We all know it can happen to any machine, but never on normal use of it. as the drum is tilted, the end of it gets really under water, while the water level on the door is high, but very far from the upper half of the door.

Post# 600924 , Reply# 16 6/4/2012 at 09:55 (355 days old) by chris74 (Germany)
*@ Dave* Germany measures in dry weight also... ;-)

Post# 600986 , Reply# 17 6/4/2012 at 17:06 (355 days old) by dascot (Scotland)
dave - I've never heard of any European standard measure being in 'wet weight'... Far as I know it's always measured in dry weight capacity :)

Post# 601042 , Reply# 18 6/4/2012 at 22:55 (354 days old) by thomasortega (Brazil)
Here the standard is measuring dry weight. The "Wet" weight is used only as a guide for the drying cycles. For example, Mueller Special's washing capacity is 7kg (Dry) and the drying capacity is 4kg (7kg wet).

Post# 601100 , Reply# 19 6/5/2012 at 05:44 (354 days old) by chris74 (Germany)
*Makes sense* Because why would one dry dry clothes?

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