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Post# 601894   6/8/2012 at 07:19 (4,332 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        

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I moved into a shared house a few weeks ago, in the kitchen we have a WM62 Hotpoint Aquarius 1000 washing machine and a very old Early 90s (1990/1991) Zanussi DW910 TCR Dishwasher.

The Dishwasher is brilliant, dispite the landlord plumbing it into the hot water supply, this helps with the drying phase and makes the glasses come out extra sparkly, its so heavy, robust and well built, no wonder its still going after 22 years.

The washing machine is awful, and its now broken. I noticed when I first did a wash that everything was coming out hot instead of cold, I'm guessing the landlord plumbed the machine to the wrong taps, and the drum has caught on an interior component of the machine and has ripped a big hole in the drum, rendering the machine useless.

Hopefully we shall get a second hand Zanussi washer as a replacement, id like one that matches the dishwasher =]





Post# 601895 , Reply# 1   6/8/2012 at 07:22 (4,332 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
An arty picture

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of my Zanussi Dishwasher

Post# 601896 , Reply# 2   6/8/2012 at 07:24 (4,332 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
The torn WM62 Drum

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EEEK!!

I guess its the launderette for now =/



Post# 601902 , Reply# 3   6/8/2012 at 08:55 (4,332 days old) by chris74 ()        
Good luck!

In finding a matching washer and eventually...a dryer?

Post# 601908 , Reply# 4   6/8/2012 at 09:23 (4,332 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        
try..

Mr.Wash.co.uk for a reconditioned machine, they also deliver too for £34 pallat delivery :)
the cheapest on theier website its a 2002-ish whirlpool AWM series washer ^-^
Tom :)


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Post# 601948 , Reply# 5   6/8/2012 at 13:49 (4,332 days old) by henrypeter21 ()        
WM62

Please keep the WM62 and fix it eventually, because these were the last decent built hotpoints before the indesit company purchased GDA's Share of hotpoint in 2001.

Post# 601953 , Reply# 6   6/8/2012 at 14:02 (4,332 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        
the last decent built hotpoints before the indesit company p

Come on and turn off the nostalgia ;)
Have a look of the current line up of Hotpoint machines, they're nothing short of brilliant!


Post# 601960 , Reply# 7   6/8/2012 at 14:38 (4,332 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
Well

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It's not my machine and the landlord will probably replace it with a zanussi or bosch :-p

Post# 601973 , Reply# 8   6/8/2012 at 15:57 (4,332 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

be careful with a european made zanussi as the back covers are plastic and they split very easily

Post# 601977 , Reply# 9   6/8/2012 at 16:17 (4,332 days old) by SuperElectronic (London, UK)        
Turn off the nostalgia?

It has to be said that in the UK, Hotpoint was a mainstay of relatively reliable, good quality laundry equipment before the Indesit takeover. That's why we'd rate models like the WM6x above as the last good machines by the brand. Still so very repairable too.

Things like drum fragile paddles and here-today-gone-tomorrow electronics serve to make the impression of Indesit-owned Hotpoint a pale imitation of what it once was. Being the proud owner of one of the original Hotpoints, I'd seriously hesitate to part with my cash for a new one (except perhaps as something to play with). No-one can deny they're better featured, but that's not everything.

That said, so many makes have gone the same way!


Post# 601982 , Reply# 10   6/8/2012 at 17:22 (4,332 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        
dj-gabriele

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I couldn't agree more. My Hotpoint WMUD962P Is one of the best machine's I've owned!

Darren


Post# 601986 , Reply# 11   6/8/2012 at 17:58 (4,332 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

@Darren
my hotpoint HV6L105P is abit bitter sweet, i like it and it washes well, but when the washer is plugged into the mains and switched on at the mains, the washer will turn itself on without having the on/off button pressed. it gets quite annoying :(
my best mate has the new ultim like yours but in black and she loves it :)
Tom


Post# 602063 , Reply# 12   6/8/2012 at 23:29 (4,331 days old) by FL1012 ()        
Not worth keeping.....

It's unlikely the landlord would want to faff about with it by the sound of it, but in any case I don't reckon that Hotpoint's worth keeping. It's not exactly rare, there's still a decent amount kicking about on eBay & probably alot more still being used, so it's not like you'd be saving one of the last. Plus the repair would be pretty major in terms of work required - it's not like it just needs a new door rubber or something simple - the whole drum would have to come out & be replaced, and that's before you find out what caused it to be ripped open.

They might be one of the last better made Hotpoint's but having had family who owned early 80s Hotpoints (Mum had a 95450, Gran had a Microtronic LE & Auntie had a 95622) it's not really much of a statement. Mum's machine and her friends who've owned late 80s & early 90s Hotpoints have all had a decent length of service out of them (minimum 7 years) but in that time they've needed brushes, pressure switches, heaters, suspension parts & so forth so it's no wonder they lasted ok, because half the machine had been replaced!

The more recent ones still seem to need parts that just aren't needed on other brands - last night on eBay i saw 3 Hotpoint vented dryers that are no more than 2 years old & all of them have problems with the drum going out of allignment, and that's before i even looked at Indesit & their condensors that'd broken.

The very latest stuff *appears* better made but c'mon, if they can't even make a tumble dryer to last more than 2 years then they're really not that Hot! The dishwasher on the other hand.....oh yes!


Post# 602211 , Reply# 13   6/9/2012 at 18:16 (4,331 days old) by washer111 ()        
Zanussi Dishwasher

Reminds me a lot of visiting the Scandanavian countries. I always loved the cool washing up symbols Europeans used (even on cars and stuff)!

What sort of water usage does that dishwasher have? Is it good or bad?


Post# 602335 , Reply# 14   6/10/2012 at 11:15 (4,330 days old) by hotpointfan (United Kingdom)        
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The WM series are the last proper Hotpoints.
I have the WM62P like that, and it is a good machine.
But, in a situation like this, any washer is better! (that works!)
However, the new ones are decent, better than the last series.

Perhaps you could suggest to your landlord the new Hotpoint washer dryers - if you want a dryer that is!
Such as the Aquarius WDAL8640G, have enclosed a link :)

Oh well, good luck!

hotpointfan


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Post# 602338 , Reply# 15   6/10/2012 at 11:20 (4,330 days old) by hottieaquarius ()        

I have noticed that the latest Hotpoints seem to be much better than the ones they produced before, which is good because my Gran now owns one and I don't want it to turn out worthless.

Post# 602342 , Reply# 16   6/10/2012 at 11:28 (4,330 days old) by hotpointfan (United Kingdom)        
hottieaquarius

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My great gran has just got herself the last generation washer dryer, model WDF740P, which isn't too bad quality wise, but the new washerdryers also look good.

My friend owns the WML540P Aquarius from 2011, which is used 3 times a day, and its bearings are slowly on their way out, but that is undestandable because even if it is on a Synthetics programme at 1000, they will put it on a fast 1400 spin after.

Best wishes

hotpointfan


Post# 602478 , Reply# 17   6/10/2012 at 20:21 (4,330 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
I dont know

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I dont know what machine the landlord is going to replace it with, but it will be a cheap one from a second hand shop thats for sure. Whatever it is, as long as it works and doesn't take long to wash then I'm happy.

Hoping we get a Zanussi though, or a Bosch. When I was at uni my washers ranged from a Hotpoint WD440 washer dryer, a Siemens XB1060 1000rpm washer, and a Zanussi ZWF1020.

Been doing washing at my friends flat and he has a horrible CDA 1200rpm built in washer dryer, and its awful, the timer feels like its going to fall off when you turn it and it dispenses the fabric conditioner on the first rinse instead of the final rinse, you have to switch it off at the wall just to get the door to unlock.

But it washes and dries quite ok, dispite these problems.


Post# 602480 , Reply# 18   6/10/2012 at 20:24 (4,329 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

Is your friends cda one of them horrible antonio merloni ones?

Post# 602573 , Reply# 19   6/11/2012 at 04:36 (4,329 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
CDA

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It has 3 dials and 4 buttons - 800 1200 spin, half load/dry button rinse hold and a on off button

Temp dial cold to 95, dryer dial from 0 to 120mins and a washer dial 18 programmes

It might be as the programme dial is so flimsy, the dial is misaligned so you have to
put it on one notch over the programme for it to fill, other than that it
Works fine apart from the softener going in on the bleaching rinse phase rather than the
Softener programme


Post# 602575 , Reply# 20   6/11/2012 at 04:46 (4,329 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
Looks like this

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Heres a link to the machine here

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Post# 602584 , Reply# 21   6/11/2012 at 06:57 (4,329 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

Its made by Siltal :-)
Hopfuly your landloard will get you a siemens or a whirlpool :-)


Post# 602610 , Reply# 22   6/11/2012 at 10:21 (4,329 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        
@hotpointfan plus everyone else

I hear Hotpoint are launching a 10KG wash 7KG dry washer dryer in Ultima design too, with that round door, not sure if it is launched yet, but its got the Aqualtis Titanium drum too.

The new generation are built a lot better than the ones before this. I don't understand why, because Its still Indesit that own it!!
I would say the new Generation are much better than the older WM's if I am honest. The only reason my WM31, and other WM's are still going is because they are repaired regularly. I would certainly be happy for my WM31 to be replaced by one of the newer generation machines though, especially one with Titanium drum!


Post# 602635 , Reply# 23   6/11/2012 at 11:40 (4,329 days old) by hooverkeymatic (England)        
Decent Hotpoints

I have to say, the series before the current ones were also excellent. We used to have a WM series machine before it bit the dust and it was very reliable and got hammered through its life, and it then got replaced by a WML540 which was the last generation of hot points before now, and it is a class machine. Very well built and has been so far reliable after 3 years, but ours has the Hotpoint drum rather than the indesit one so that may say something.

On the other hand, the generation after the WMAs were in one word: Awful. They were the machines that set a bad impression on Hotpoint, and quite rightly so. They were nothing short of terrible machines. Whereas nowadays they are excellent machines and would replace our Hotpoint if it broke with another any day. Today's indesits I do not like at all though. Also the previous generation are fairly good, but not a patch on our machine.


So that is my two pence :-)


Post# 602868 , Reply# 24   6/12/2012 at 07:47 (4,328 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)        
Personally....

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If you can afford it I would buy something of my choice and just ask the landlord to take the old one.

When we moved into this flat I already had a decent oven and hob to replace the past it installed ones so I just asked if I could fit those!!!

Seamus


Post# 602879 , Reply# 25   6/12/2012 at 08:38 (4,328 days old) by chris74 ()        
Never heard of CDA...

Or Siltal. Are they Merloni brands?

Post# 602891 , Reply# 26   6/12/2012 at 09:41 (4,328 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        
Siltal

Siltal was formally IAR Siltal who were responsible for a lot of rebranded items, a few Baumatic models, Cda models, Homark / White Westinghouse, Neff 6544 etc. The company collapsed and was taken over by a holdings firm. But after much investment, it did not last. Siltal has been in administration for some time. Merloni and Antonio Merloni had no real association with Siltal, apart from a few Indesit driers that were produced by Siltal before they got hold of the Creda Yate factory.

Post# 602905 , Reply# 27   6/12/2012 at 10:43 (4,328 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

the "Beatrice" was the last line of washers they made :(

Post# 602909 , Reply# 28   6/12/2012 at 10:53 (4,328 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        

Yep, with the single paddle lifter. Also the dryer with all controls on the door, a bit like an Aqualtis, but not as pretty....

Post# 602941 , Reply# 29   6/12/2012 at 12:16 (4,328 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

i'd love a blue baumatic branded siltal :) ^-^
siltal also made some dryers for fagor too :)
Tom :)


Post# 602955 , Reply# 30   6/12/2012 at 12:31 (4,328 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        
BFWM14BL

I think is the Baumatic machine you mean. They had a bad rep for a terrible design for the sump hose. A nice retainer collar that could only be inserted from the inside of the outer tub.
I also remember the Beatrice built in dryer, it was ust a washer dryer, without the washer lol. Only the Italians!

Not seen any Siltal - Fagor dryers but have seen them on the parts / model lists. Think Fagor had a good range from Cre-point =)until they bought Brandt that is.
Andy


Post# 603011 , Reply# 31   6/12/2012 at 14:49 (4,328 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

Did siltal have a fair rep? Id still love a blue or a black siltal/baumatic :-)
Baumatic appliances have a terrible rep lol
Tom :-)


Post# 603023 , Reply# 32   6/12/2012 at 15:22 (4,328 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        
errrrrrrrr

not really, appalling service network from Italy. Parts that never arrived, nobody their ever replied, until they wanted paying that is..... Parts are becoming scarce.

Baumatic have not produced a thing until they bought Italian manufacturer Kosmo, who produced some of their ceramic hobs and the side opening Megachef ovens before takeover. The good thing with Baumatic, is that they do have a very comprehensive range on built in products. But all badged from others.

Andy


Post# 603029 , Reply# 33   6/12/2012 at 15:35 (4,328 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

Ah right
Ive never really been a fan of baumatic since i found out how bad thier customer support is, most of thier washers are made in china by haier now, its rather sad tbh
Tom


Post# 603033 , Reply# 34   6/12/2012 at 15:42 (4,328 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        

Yep, all Haier now on the built in, and initially with the MEGA6 models. They have used a lot of Fagor, Vestel, Antonio Merloni, and a few Gorenje (my fave) Everything is about price =/ and not quality =(

Post# 603036 , Reply# 35   6/12/2012 at 15:52 (4,328 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

I know, i knew somone with a baumatic that was made by vestel, apparently, the pully would grind against the back cover, until her dad took the back plate off and hammerd it, then it was fine, i do love the line of coloured fridges they make :-)
Noticed you have the same whirlpool washer as me lol :-)
Tom :-)


Post# 603042 , Reply# 36   6/12/2012 at 16:08 (4,328 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        
whirlpool tl

ah now totally off topic oops! It's in a sad way and was my friends acquisition when she moved. The lower weight was loose and cracked the base of the tank with a few small leaks, debored like a gooden! will use it for shoes lol. Too expensive to invest in a new tub, typical of Whirlpool.... When I want space may list some spares on Ebay lol.

Those Smeg fridges are excellent for tapping into consumer desire, and are basically Gorenje for the most part (although some from Antonio mer, Whirlpool more recently) and are provided to Smeg unfinished. Then they 'clad' them, and insert the doors into their moulds with smeg hinges. This is why some cabinets twist in time because the doors are heavy for the cabinets.

Andy


Post# 603043 , Reply# 37   6/12/2012 at 16:15 (4,328 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

Shame about teh whirlpool
Those smeg fridges feel abit fisher price to me, i love the baumatic indulgence cream fridge :-)
Tom


Post# 603045 , Reply# 38   6/12/2012 at 16:23 (4,328 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        
Baumatic

What model is that one?

Well the Smegs have been toyed around with..... lol Smeg don't produce any refrigeration units, so consumers are always smacked up in price on the name.

Yeah the Whirlpool is a shame, would have reconditioned it. The little blue handle is also busted, but alas is not available without the lid which is a total rip off. Shame Philips sold out IMO

Andy


Post# 603048 , Reply# 39   6/12/2012 at 16:28 (4,328 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

This is the baumatic indulgence fridge freezer i love :-)
I used my whirlpool today funnily enough lol
I like the smeg stainless steel dishwashers :-)
Tom :-)


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Post# 603055 , Reply# 40   6/12/2012 at 16:48 (4,328 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        

Will check out who makes that indulgence model tomorrow, I think the orbital arm is revolutionary (haha) but to get that on a slimline dw was a stroke of genius.

How old is your aquamatic compact model?
Andy


Post# 603057 , Reply# 41   6/12/2012 at 16:52 (4,328 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

My aquamatic will be 1 on the 7th july :-)
I love that shade of cream on the baumatic indulgence fridge freezer :-)
Tom :-)


Post# 603059 , Reply# 42   6/12/2012 at 16:56 (4,328 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        

Didn't know they were still being marketed in the UK TBH, do you know if the motor is by Haier?

Post# 603063 , Reply# 43   6/12/2012 at 17:02 (4,328 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

No, it may be made by sole, the motor is smaller than a frontloaders, its solidly built :-)
Tom :-)


Post# 603066 , Reply# 44   6/12/2012 at 17:08 (4,328 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        

Do you know if it has a sealed tank? or is this generation still serviceable? If your not sure, could you tell me the 16 digit code starting with 3 from the door aperture please?

Andy


Post# 603073 , Reply# 45   6/12/2012 at 17:16 (4,328 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

I dont really know, im not that technical minded

Post# 603075 , Reply# 46   6/12/2012 at 17:20 (4,328 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        

Any chance on that code so I could have a look please Tom?

Post# 603167 , Reply# 47   6/13/2012 at 03:53 (4,327 days old) by chris74 ()        
Baumatic

They seem to offer mostly build-in appliances. I like their logo anyway...

Post# 603175 , Reply# 48   6/13/2012 at 04:53 (4,327 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        

The best bit lol, it sounds German, a part of clever marketing.

Post# 603182 , Reply# 49   6/13/2012 at 05:34 (4,327 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        
Tom

The Baumatic INDULGENCE.CR is made by Vestel, I think their products are good bits of kit, would rather a Vestel over Beko anyway ;)

Post# 603198 , Reply# 50   6/13/2012 at 07:48 (4,327 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
"would rather a Vestel over Beko anyway "

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Hi Andy and a warm welcome from me, I`m intregued by your statement above, are you an engineer with experience of these machines or do you work for UK Whitegoods etc...

Cheers, Mike


Post# 603201 , Reply# 51   6/13/2012 at 07:59 (4,327 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        
Rumbled Mike

Thanks for your welcome =) kind of is the answer, I have had workshop and on the road experience, now I deal with spare parts. But still have a healthy interest in appliances.

I am pretty anti the whole sealed tank machines, I think they are step too far towards non serviceable products. I think the Vestel washers in particular are good in that they still use serviceable tubs, and parts are reasonably priced. That is provided that they are available..... =/ Yes i'm also on UKW.
Regards Andy


Post# 603210 , Reply# 52   6/13/2012 at 09:42 (4,327 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

Hi Andy :)
i'd rather by Turkish beko or vestel products over chineese hash!
:)
i will get you a pic of the raitings plate when i have more free time :)
Tom :)
P.S those celcus TV's in sainsburys are made by vestel in turkey and they are really good ^-^


Post# 603214 , Reply# 53   6/13/2012 at 10:24 (4,327 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        
Vestel

are responsible for a huge portion of the rebranded market on lots of products. Hoping they may tool up for a dryer range for when Servis is officially relaunched. Please Tom, I think your model is an aquamatic100f?

Post# 603216 , Reply# 54   6/13/2012 at 10:28 (4,327 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

hi Andy :)
yes my candy is model AQUA100F :)
it would be fab if they start producing dryers :)
i'd lover one :)
Tom :)


Post# 603218 , Reply# 55   6/13/2012 at 10:37 (4,327 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        

Thought so, but if you could get the long number (on the sticker just behind the door) pretty please lol

Post# 603220 , Reply# 56   6/13/2012 at 10:43 (4,327 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

took me a while to figure out where on the it plate it was lol
its: 31002972 1118
:) Tom :)


Post# 603223 , Reply# 57   6/13/2012 at 10:47 (4,327 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        

Nice one, cheers Tom, will let you know what I find if you like =)

Post# 603226 , Reply# 58   6/13/2012 at 11:05 (4,327 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

ok Andy :)
Tom :)


Post# 603346 , Reply# 59   6/13/2012 at 15:55 (4,327 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        

Pleased to tell you Tom, that you have a fully serviceable drum unit in your machine =) Andy

Post# 603359 , Reply# 60   6/13/2012 at 16:35 (4,327 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

Thats good :-)
Still just a good thing i did take a warrenty out, just incase :-)
Cheers Andy :-)
Tom :-)


Post# 603366 , Reply# 61   6/13/2012 at 16:46 (4,327 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        

no probs Tom =)

Post# 603447 , Reply# 62   6/13/2012 at 21:31 (4,326 days old) by logixx (Germany)        
Like that dishwasher

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And what a smart idea that reversible spray arm is!

Post# 603549 , Reply# 63   6/14/2012 at 09:36 (4,326 days old) by chris74 ()        
Where have you seen...

...a reversible spray arm?

Post# 603571 , Reply# 64   6/14/2012 at 10:58 (4,326 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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I just googled the manual. :)

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Post# 603574 , Reply# 65   6/14/2012 at 11:12 (4,326 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        
Reversible arm

Oh yeah, like an early non electronic half load setting

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Post# 605362 , Reply# 66   6/21/2012 at 15:54 (4,319 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
UPDATE

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I am getting a new washer tomorrow, turns out the landlord has ordered...a second hand Indesit, he said its cold fill only but I shall make sure its installed properly, as our existing broken machine was connected to the hot tap, but this went into the cold valve resulting in everything washed and rinsed in water coming straight from the boiler.

I shall tell the person fitting the machine about this error tomorrow and ensure that its plumbed in correctly

All I can say is its an Indesit, but Im not fussed, as long as my clothes get washed in a drum that doesn't have a big gaping hole in it, then thats fine :)



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