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| Post# 603553 6/14/2012 at 09:48 (4,326 days old) by andyvivo (Essex) | ||
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| Post# 603554 , Reply# 1 6/14/2012 at 09:50 (4,326 days old) by andyvivo (Essex) | ||
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| Post# 603564 , Reply# 8 6/14/2012 at 09:59 (4,326 days old) by andyvivo (Essex) | ||
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Enjoy! And that is all for today on this one =P hope this wets some appetites =D | ||
Post# 603568 , Reply# 9 6/14/2012 at 10:46 (4,326 days old) by chestermikeuk  (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Wanna Bet!! | ||
| Post# 603570 , Reply# 10 6/14/2012 at 10:53 (4,326 days old) by andyvivo (Essex) | ||
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haha well all good things and all that =) | ||
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Post# 603589 , Reply# 11 6/14/2012 at 13:07 (4,326 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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"Wets some appetites" | ||
| Post# 603591 , Reply# 12 6/14/2012 at 13:18 (4,326 days old) by andyvivo (Essex) | ||
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Lmao, I am suprised that nobody else has got a copy of this | ||
| Post# 603603 , Reply# 13 6/14/2012 at 13:54 (4,326 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys) | ||
hotpoint 95622 | ||
| Post# 603617 , Reply# 14 6/14/2012 at 15:47 (4,326 days old) by turnamat (Germany) | ||
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| Post# 603619 , Reply# 15 6/14/2012 at 15:52 (4,326 days old) by ANDYVIVO (Essex) | ||
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No probs guys, whoever gets one, it will be like winning the lottery lol | ||
| Post# 603625 , Reply# 16 6/14/2012 at 16:18 (4,326 days old) by keymatic (London / UK) | ||
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| Post# 603628 , Reply# 17 6/14/2012 at 16:21 (4,326 days old) by ANDYVIVO (Essex) | ||
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Hi Keith, I'm sure there worth there weight in gold to someone, you could ebay and post a link on here? | ||
| Post# 603629 , Reply# 18 6/14/2012 at 16:22 (4,326 days old) by ANDYVIVO (Essex) | ||
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ps is their a date on your 1600 series manual? and does it mention the colour style of the 1830? Andy | ||
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Post# 603644 , Reply# 19 6/14/2012 at 17:58 (4,326 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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"I was gonna chuck them out recently as not really into | ||
| Post# 603694 , Reply# 20 6/15/2012 at 02:37 (4,325 days old) by keymatic (London / UK) | ||
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Hi Mike..
I must get my ar*e in gear and get some info scanned at sometime..I just don't know where to start sometimes, and it would take me a full week scanning to get most of it uploaded. Sometimes i wonder if it is just easier to scan as per the subject arises. The website i have only has a certain space allowance. With reference to the manuals, I got given a whole stack a few years ago, and really just thought im going to get rid of these as they where of no interest and got in the way..lol K | ||
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Post# 603707 , Reply# 21 6/15/2012 at 03:44 (4,325 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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I understand...
totally, was drowning with it too, I`ve been scanning as stuff comes up, like the Thor earlier, (credit to mathew3203 for that), and Paul is great for sorting/sifting archiving and documenting, I swear he knows what I`v got more than I do - which is great!!
If you want any help with scanning or want to offload the auto washer stuff, or even send it up and let us scan and archive it in batches - we seem to be on a roll with it here at the moment!! It does beg the bigger question, what do we do, I`m convinced the only way forward is to work together and pool resources....Oh lottery win!!! Keep Sane - Keep Scanning!! | ||
| Post# 603714 , Reply# 22 6/15/2012 at 04:59 (4,325 days old) by andyvivo (Essex) | ||
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1830 supplement 1 of 4 
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| Post# 603859 , Reply# 51 6/15/2012 at 11:51 (4,325 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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| Post# 603864 , Reply# 56 6/15/2012 at 11:56 (4,325 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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This phot shows the later version 1600, with the very much blue-er top cover... 
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| Post# 603866 , Reply# 57 6/15/2012 at 11:56 (4,325 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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| Post# 603868 , Reply# 58 6/15/2012 at 11:59 (4,325 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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and finally... the machine that caused so much frustration last year! The English Electric version, unfortunately a touch far away - in Greece. Hey ho. a nice selection of photos of the 1600 accumulated over the years - but where is the 1830? Cheers Paul 
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| Post# 603892 , Reply# 59 6/15/2012 at 13:28 (4,325 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys) | ||
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hotpoint 95622 | ||
| Post# 603916 , Reply# 60 6/15/2012 at 16:34 (4,325 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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Post# 603926 , Reply# 62 6/15/2012 at 17:38 (4,325 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Hotpoint 1600
Cheers Andy for taking the time scanning and posting this Holy Grail of information, finally the picture is building!!!
Paul, great pics for final reference, weird blue top and no white top pics anywhere!! It looks like it fills from the sump like the keymatic, I wonder how this looked inside like compared to the English Electric Reversomatic Solid State, would be great to compare the two side by side someday!!! Happy Reading all... | ||
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Post# 604387 , Reply# 64 6/18/2012 at 07:05 (4,322 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Which washers with the Hotpoint 1600
Andy in terms of electronics it would appear Hotpoint refined them first, promoting them as "Electronic" although I still would love to compare the EE Reversomatic Solid State machines to see if Hotpoint advanced those!!
Models out at the same time would be: TOP LOADERS: Hotpoint 1504, Servis MK55 and Phillips HN3109 FRONT LOADERS: Hotpoint 1600, English Electric Reversomat 474, Hoover 3221 Auto, Hoover 3223 Keymatic, Indesit Europa, Philco Ford Biomatic 492, Bendix LTA TWIN TUBS: Hotpoint 1466 auto rinse, Hoover 3310 and Servis MK70 Take a look at an earlier thread in the link, this has Which Reports 69 & 1970 along with catalogue images of the time... CLICK HERE TO GO TO chestermikeuk's LINK 
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| Post# 604507 , Reply# 66 6/18/2012 at 13:09 (4,322 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
Motors from the 1600/1830
How funny one should bring that up. Haynes manual mentions that.... Indesit brushed motors (from what I gather low spin 800 and below Indesits used Induction motors especially the ones of the 1970's) from 1100 machines of an era were of GEC manufacture or of EXTREME likeness. Now checking the motor shown in Haynes as an Early fitment to Indesits against the one shown in the Hpt diagrams do show variances BUT I do wonder if this was actually fitted to the 1600's and Indesit bought the tooling later on to produce their own motors for the 1100 spin Generation Innovations. Its that little sentence that throws me. "This motor replaces GEC versions". 1600 stock bought by Indesit after a failed production before the Libeartors to be fitted 10 years down the line to Indesits?????? 
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| Post# 604512 , Reply# 67 6/18/2012 at 13:26 (4,322 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
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| Post# 604521 , Reply# 68 6/18/2012 at 13:49 (4,322 days old) by ANDYVIVO (Essex) | ||
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I remember doing brushes on an Indesit motor identical to this image, slightly longer than the Philips motor brush IIRC. Would seem like a long time to wait to start using the tooling for this motor. Unless it took ages for Hotpoint to sell to another firm. | ||
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Post# 606328 , Reply# 69 6/26/2012 at 02:19 (4,314 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Would be..
Andy, dont know of any around here, would be great to find a 474 set lurking somewhere, I`m sure these would be the pre-cursor to how the 1600 is made...
Interesting motor theory Rob, the motor looks small and thin like the Phillips until you see the end view, cant quite see from the schematic but it looks to have a squarish taco unit, for some reason I always imagined a big induction size motor on the 1600!! The Indesits of the same era (Europas?) would have been induction motors wouldnt they?? | ||
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