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| Post# 603588 6/14/2012 at 13:03 (340 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
  Hello :)
we have a new independent electric shop in town that opend 4 weeks ago, the owners i know from when they were in an industrial estate in Pengam. they have very low end models in the shop as where i live is a bit of a depressed area, anyway, the sales man was showing me a catalouge with higher end and midle range machines in (if you want a better make eg gorenje you can choose it out from the catalogue and they will order it in for you) he was showing me zanussi fridges and freezers because we are looking to upraged to more energy efficent models, i saw a dryer as he was flicking though the pages which looked suspiciousley like a whirlpool mixed with and older hoover dryer, i asked him what make it was and he told me that it wasmade by montpellier, he told me that they are owned by hoover? if anyone can shed some light onto this strange brand i would much appriceate it :) Tom :):) the dryer in the pic is the same model of montpellier dryer i saw, they also had a vented model too :) 
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| Post# 603640 , Reply# 2 6/14/2012 at 17:35 (340 days old) by ANDYVIVO (Essex) | ||
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The vented dryer is oriental, so a good chance the condensor dryer is too. | ||
| Post# 603814 , Reply# 3 6/15/2012 at 10:35 (339 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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| Post# 603817 , Reply# 4 6/15/2012 at 10:40 (339 days old) by chris74 (Germany) | ||
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Couldn't it be French as it is a French town? It is not "exquisit", too TOL to be one of them... | ||
| Post# 603818 , Reply# 5 6/15/2012 at 10:44 (339 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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| Post# 603824 , Reply# 6 6/15/2012 at 10:54 (339 days old) by andyvivo (Essex) | ||
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Check this link, that is deffo Chinese, actually looks quite good! CLICK HERE TO GO TO andyvivo's LINK | ||
| Post# 603844 , Reply# 7 6/15/2012 at 11:11 (339 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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| Post# 603900 , Reply# 8 6/15/2012 at 15:07 (339 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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| Post# 604056 , Reply# 9 6/16/2012 at 11:09 (338 days old) by FL1012 (Oxfordshire, UK) | ||
 How much are they, Optima? It doesn't show prices to me, presumably because i don't have a log-in.
I think if you want a super cheap dryer you can do alot worse than White Knight. Im sure their quality has been dumbed down in recent years in-line with most makes of appliance, but the price of their Vented 44AW still seems competitive & they appear to be one of the few manufacturers who still make things simple enough for someone to repair themselves, which is effectively the difference between a machine being kept or written off. Liam | ||
| Post# 604068 , Reply# 10 6/16/2012 at 11:34 (338 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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| Post# 604070 , Reply# 11 6/16/2012 at 11:39 (338 days old) by FL1012 (Oxfordshire, UK) | ||
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In that case they're having a laugh regarding the condensor - you can get the basic Zanussi Condensor from John Lewis for £209 with 2 year warranty, and probably quite a few other condensors for less than the Montpellier one.
The vented one isn't a terrible price but why risk an unknown brand when White Knight/Indesit/Hotpoint are all around the same price? Not worth it in my opinion! Liam CLICK HERE TO GO TO FL1012's LINK | ||
| Post# 604071 , Reply# 12 6/16/2012 at 11:43 (338 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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| Post# 604194 , Reply# 13 6/17/2012 at 02:17 (338 days old) by FL1012 (Oxfordshire, UK) | ||
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They're good prices, even if Zanussi have lessened the quality since the previous range - though i don't believe they're greatly different to the last models with the blue ring round the dial :-/
How have you found your condensor? I've just been offered a new job so am potentially moving & will probably need a condensor since it'll be an appartment i'm moving to & venting for my existing old Zanussi (Z930 Electronic Sensor) will be abit hit & miss. Cheers, Liam :) | ||
| Post# 604206 , Reply# 14 6/17/2012 at 06:39 (338 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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Hi Liam :)
I love my condenser :) 1 thing to mantion is that sometimes the filter will be hot to touch at the end of a very full load, ther than that its fantastic, i dislike the position of the water resovior, and alos, my dryer is in my wash house and ive got to leave the heat exchanger cover open in cold weather so it wont freeze :( there's a couple of models on appliances online with the water resovior at the top of the dryer (if your stacking then go for the one i have) one thing to mention is that they have a hard plastic mesh on the back of where the heater is so that if the power cord or anything that can easily melt or scorch dangles down the back of the dryer, it wont be damaged :) Tom :) | ||
| Post# 604370 , Reply# 15 6/18/2012 at 03:36 (337 days old) by FL1012 (Oxfordshire, UK) | ||
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Cheers Tom. None of that sounds disasterous, much the same as my Mum's older Electrolux Condensor which is based on/same as the older metal door Zanussi Condensors.
Ours is in the garage & the water resevoir has frozen a couple of times too. It would be better if the resevoir was at the top but that seems to be on the more expensive Zanussi models only :( The dryer i buy will be in an appartment so freezing shouldn't be a problem - i'll just have to put up with the resevoir being low down as the dryer is unlikely to be stacked on a washer. The cover to shelter things behind the machine from heat is good, particularly in an environment where the machine is fitted in-between cupboards & you can't see what's happening behind it! Liam | ||
| Post# 604384 , Reply# 16 6/18/2012 at 06:50 (337 days old) by andyvivo (Essex) | ||
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You could always try one of those condensor vent traps for vented dryers, they are a bit hit and miss though. I guess the dryer won't be near a window to place the hose through? Regards Andy | ||
| Post# 604416 , Reply# 17 6/18/2012 at 09:55 (336 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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| Post# 604419 , Reply# 18 6/18/2012 at 10:04 (336 days old) by andyvivo (Essex) | ||
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They can work, just have to be used correctly. The right amount of water (cold as can be) and the size of load, dryer heat setting, and how well spun the washing is are the main factors. | ||
| Post# 604443 , Reply# 19 6/18/2012 at 10:55 (336 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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| Post# 604458 , Reply# 20 6/18/2012 at 11:23 (336 days old) by andyvivo (Essex) | ||
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I don't think you can beat venting externally, for speed etc. But the condesors are great for putting anywhere. Hope your well Tom =) | ||
| Post# 604467 , Reply# 21 6/18/2012 at 11:35 (336 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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| Post# 604469 , Reply# 22 6/18/2012 at 11:38 (336 days old) by andyvivo (Essex) | ||
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Is yours a heater element condensor or have you gone all awich with a heat pump dryer? Does your siemens have twin filters like the Zan/lux's? I hate cleaning mine, really annoys me that I cannot restore the condensor to new lol. Andy | ||
| Post# 604476 , Reply# 23 6/18/2012 at 11:45 (336 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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| Post# 604479 , Reply# 24 6/18/2012 at 11:48 (336 days old) by andyvivo (Essex) | ||
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Very nice, am I right in saying the condenser is flushed clean? | ||
| Post# 604494 , Reply# 25 6/18/2012 at 12:26 (336 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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| Post# 604502 , Reply# 26 6/18/2012 at 12:57 (336 days old) by FL1012 (Oxfordshire, UK) | ||
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Hi Andy
I do have one of the Condensor Boxes somewhere, which i was gonna use when i was living away from home before. Never used it though. Apparantly you can put ice in it which is meant to make it work quite effectively. I dunno though, i quite fancy the idea of buying a condensor! Was watching a Whirlpool Inspirations one on eBay but forgot about it & the auction ended, so that's that :( Any thoughts on the White Knight condensors, like the 77AW? I know their vented dryers are fine but some people say the condensors aren't up to much. I'd just like to support them if i can (and don't get too tempted by my usual weakness for Zanussi), as they're one of the few proper British appliance manufacturers remaining. Liam | ||
| Post# 604505 , Reply# 27 6/18/2012 at 13:02 (336 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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| Post# 604523 , Reply# 29 6/18/2012 at 13:55 (336 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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Hi Andy :)
this is the site that sells the reconditioned compact whirlers :) i love them :) :) Tom :) CLICK HERE TO GO TO aegokocarat's LINK | ||
Post# 604524 , Reply# 30 6/18/2012 at 14:00 (336 days old) by paulc  (edinburgh) |
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 Regarding the WK condenser, at least the ones from a few years ago. I used to support a lady who had on in her bedroom, after half an hour or so you could see the condensation on the windows. Hers was quite noisy and the door felt very flimsy. A couple of other people in the project had Zanussi Condenser dryers and they were great, if I were in the market for a condenser dryer at a reasonable price then it would be a Zanussi.
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| Post# 604582 , Reply# 31 6/18/2012 at 16:57 (336 days old) by ANDYVIVO (Essex) | ||
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Do these generate a fair amount of heat in the drum, as in comparison to a conventional dryer? or is it considerable difference? | ||
| Post# 604670 , Reply# 32 6/19/2012 at 02:02 (336 days old) by FL1012 (Oxfordshire, UK) | ||
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Thank you all! Glad to see that (possibly quite unusually) everyone has the same opinion on Zanussi vs White Knight Condensors.
Mums old Zanussi-based Electrolux condensor is horrendously noisy & compared to that, the White Knight i heard was quiet, but i'm guessing the newer Zanussi's with the plastic doors are considerably quieter. Sounds like White Knight is almost like a 'runner-up' to Zanussi, which is good up against giants like Hoover/Candy & Indesit. I think (especially given the price difference is so small) i'll go for a Zanussi if i buy new and if i see something cheap on eBay, i'll consider White Knight too, but given that the dryer will be in an appartment (probably in the spare room) i'll have to think carefully about getting something that releases condensation. If it were in my own house i might risk it, but can't have paintwork being wrecked in a rented place! :-/ As a final note, any thoughts on Whirlpool condensors? The heating elements seem to fail early if eBay is anything to go on, but just wondering about noise & moisture retention? The last generation 6th Sence ones seem to go cheap - for a reason?!! Oh and i'd love an ice machine! Though at this rate i'm gonna need a penthouse rather than a humble 2 bed place!! Liam | ||
| Post# 604714 , Reply# 34 6/19/2012 at 10:00 (335 days old) by FL1012 (Oxfordshire, UK) | ||
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Once again, thanks Andy :)
I'd heard about Whirlpool parts pricing. I like the styling of their products but 1 year warranty with a general feeling that they won't last much beyond that without needing bearings (washers) or heating element (dryers) plus extortianate parts pricing does nothing to encourage me to buy a new Whirlpool product. I could be tempted with a 2nd hand one at the right price but not new unless they offered a better warranty. I have, however, had a development. I bid on a Zanussi ZDC37200W this morning & have had a Second Chance Offer on it as the winner apparantly bid in error! The guy is offering it to me for £85, but i have a £25 voucher from eBay following a problem i had with a sale a few months ago, so i could have it for basically £60. It's a 2010 model which would be £209 new in John Lewis. Sound a good deal? Liam | ||
| Post# 604718 , Reply# 35 6/19/2012 at 10:11 (335 days old) by andyvivo (Essex) | ||
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That does sound like a bargain, hope everything is A ok with it. Let us know how you get on :) Andy | ||
| Post# 604723 , Reply# 36 6/19/2012 at 10:33 (335 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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| Post# 604727 , Reply# 37 6/19/2012 at 10:47 (335 days old) by FL1012 (Oxfordshire, UK) | ||
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Cheers for the prompt response guys. Yeah i hope it's all ok too, though the seller has 100% positive feedback with a high number of transactions & says it's in excellent condition so hopefully it'll be fine.
Im just waiting to find out exactly in which part of London he's located before saying yes, but i suspect it'll be a go-er! I would've ideally gone for the next model up, with sensor programs, because i believe the timer doesn't move on the newer timed Zanussi's, but tbh it's a small detail given the price. Liam | ||
| Post# 604730 , Reply# 38 6/19/2012 at 11:02 (335 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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| Post# 604731 , Reply# 39 6/19/2012 at 11:16 (335 days old) by jetsystem1200 (Lincoln, UK) | ||
 I really like these Zanussi dryers, in fact I think they are the best dryers this side of Miele. This is because BSH dryers, even though they have higher build quality, for the most part, don't reverse the drum so clothes get tangled easily. These Zanussi dryers are also very good at drying, and mine takes a maximum of 60 mins to dry towels. These dryers may not be the quietest or the best looking, but I think they are some of the best dryers out there.
Finn P.S. Had a look at a White Knight condenser in Comet a few weeks back. Can't say I was too impressed with the quality or the features for the price. | ||
| Post# 604733 , Reply# 40 6/19/2012 at 11:23 (335 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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| Post# 604742 , Reply# 41 6/19/2012 at 12:27 (335 days old) by FL1012 (Oxfordshire, UK) | ||
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I've bought it, will collect at the weekend :)
It's a shame about the timer not moving but this was the case with my late 1990s Zanussi vented Electronic Sensor dryer that i've recently sold (still have an early 80s Sensor one), so i'm kinda used to it. I'll just put it on & wait till the noise stops & then check it! Only a small price to pay really. I had read (i think on here) about someone who recently bought a Bosch dryer but found it didn't reverse. Not sure if they're all like that but it's abit poor given that they do cost quite abit more than Zanussi, Hotpoint etc. I doubt i'd have bought a BSH dryer anyway - i'm not convinced that their lower-end products are much better than Zanussi & their higher end stuff gets close to Miele money. Certainly my Gran's Bosch Clasixx dishwasher was poor, lasting only 18 months-2 years of very light use before the circuit board failed. Combine this with all the Electrolux Group products we have in the family (more than 10 items) that have outlived our expectations, i'm abit of a sucker for Zanussi/Electrolux. I know Zanussi are not quite the quality brand that they were but their dryers seem to be largely similar to those being sold several years ago, all of which seem to last a decent length of time given their price bracket, certainly when compared to their rivals. White Knight's do feel flimsy, though i would've bought one had it not been for the comments regarding moisture retention. I just can't risk that given i'll be living in a rented place & the dryer will be in the spare room or living area. The flimsiness of the door etc doesn't concern me too much as i am very careful with my possesions though obviously the Zanussi being abit more solid is a bonus. I'm more concerned about what they're like under the surface & it seems both Zanussi & White Knight are reasonable in this respect. Rightly or wrongly i use eBay & UK White Goods forum as a judge of which products fail most & find there to be lower numbers of White Knight & Zanussi dryers than Hoover/Hotpoint/Indesit/Whirlpool/Beko. Given all these brands are similar prices i think it makes sence to support White Knight & Zanussi. If this one goes wrong i might have to reconsider my opinions! Liam | ||
| Post# 604745 , Reply# 42 6/19/2012 at 12:46 (335 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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Liam be sure to post pics :)
these zanussi's have an increasing beep at the and of the cycle, they also have automatic anticrease built in :) their dryers are way better than thier washer of the past 2 years, i had one and it was horrible!! loud and the door lock never worked, it had a plastic back panel that split within a weeek , i was happy to see the back of it! the dryers get very high place in my books, the washers dont lol Tom :) | ||
| Post# 604787 , Reply# 44 6/19/2012 at 15:11 (335 days old) by FL1012 (Oxfordshire, UK) | ||
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I'll post some pics once i get it home at the weekend.
I'll be sure to switch it off as soon as that annoying beeping starts! The anti-crease sounds handy though :) I agree that the quality of the washers seems lower than the dryers, which is a shame as they're actually priced lower than they need to be - Zanussi seems to be aiming the lower-end washers at the Beko customers rather than focussing somewhere between Hotpoint & Bosch like they once did. They could've probably remained very popular whilst still charging £350-£500 and maintaining quality, rather than going down the £200 route & losing loyal customers who buy something off the back of a solid old Zanussi & end-up disappointed because it lasts 2-3 years instead of 5-6 like their washers a few years ago. That said, the Parents have a 2007 Zanussi Essential ZWF14170W (link below) which has done over 3 years solid use so far (7-10 loads a week) & had an 18 month period in storage in a freezing cold garage (covering winter 2010 & winter 2011), which is a better lifespan than many people have experienced with both Zanussi & other makes, but predominantly other makes. Given that we always use the cotton cycles which spin after the wash and each rinse, i think it's doing ok as i think 7-10 loads a week is quite high for a cheap machine? (£230 new). I believe our machine was made in Spain as it's the Euronics special with a variable temperature dial that the bulk of the Essential models did without. The sticker inside the door says Made in Eu rather than Made in Italy like some other Zanussi's of the time. Liam CLICK HERE TO GO TO FL1012's LINK | ||
| Post# 604797 , Reply# 45 6/19/2012 at 15:34 (335 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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@Liam the dryers are fantastic :-) your parents machine wouldve been made in poland if it had the standard zanussi drum with plastic lifters, like my sisters zanussi is :-)
@Andy my zanussi was made in italy, it was horrible really it was! The thiland made zanussis have the nexus cabinate and a metal back :-) the build of them is excelent, the european made zanussis have (or from what i was told) plastic spiders, they arnt strong and they can snap at high spin speeds its sad really to see such a sought after brand go so cheap. The plastic pullys are now plastic too, thankfuly, thier still strong like the metal ones Tom :-) | ||
| Post# 604813 , Reply# 47 6/19/2012 at 16:28 (335 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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| Post# 604835 , Reply# 49 6/19/2012 at 17:33 (335 days old) by FL1012 (Oxfordshire, UK) | ||
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By Thailand made machines do you mean the ones like the ZWG1140M in the link below? I was worried when i saw these appear on sale but they seem to get very good customer ratings & i've seen no broken ones spring-up for sale yet either. They also appear more sturdily constructed (at least on the surface) than the other Zanussis.
I dunno about the internals of the European machines but i know our Essential has a metal back. Dunno if it was these that sometimes have a plastic back panel? I agree with Andy regarding Tricity Bendix, it should've been kept as the budget brand rather than de-valuing Zanussi's image. The IZ range was wicked. I'd like one of them or the Jetsystem XCs for my collection. Probably the last thoroughly well-made range of Zanussi's, lasting 8-10 years. The following range (FJDR etc) seems to manage around 7 years then the first ZWFs seem to be managing 5-6 years & then the ones like my Parents ZWF managing 2-4 years. The current range seems as yet unproven but the motors on the non Inverter models seems very grumbly & the quality seems to have taken a further tumble. They shouldn't have let things drop below the FJDR quality level in my opinion. I could see myself looking at other makes for washing machines if buying new in future. Something like Gorenje or the entry level LGs look quite tempting, though not the massive drum steam machines or anything like that, they don't do anything for me for some reason. Liam CLICK HERE TO GO TO FL1012's LINK | ||
| Post# 604901 , Reply# 51 6/20/2012 at 01:00 (335 days old) by jetsystem1200 (Lincoln, UK) | ||
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I had a Jetsystem XC6 , the FJD1266W, until last year. It was the best machine I have ever used in terms of performance and reliability. It did not have a repair in the 9 years it was in use and it did 7-10 loads a week. I keep wondering where my current machine is made, as it does not say on the data plate. I have a ZWH7162J.
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| Post# 604929 , Reply# 52 6/20/2012 at 03:13 (335 days old) by andyvivo (Essex) | ||
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Your ZWH7162J is from Poland, how old is it? These have drums that can be repaired! =D | ||
| Post# 604951 , Reply# 53 6/20/2012 at 06:53 (335 days old) by FL1012 (Oxfordshire, UK) | ||
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Hi Andy
I was led to believe that Wuxi Little Swan (stupid name) had a link to Bosch, so it suprises me abit that Electrolux Group chose to use them for manufacturing one of its machines. The info i read could be incorrect ofcourse! I could never work out why the ZWG1140M even exists since Zanussi's range already includes models that meet the same specification. Strange! Are the Welling motors the grumbly sounding ones fitted to the new Flexi-Dose & lower spec Jetsystem machines of the current range? They certainly sound different to the brush motor in my Parents Essential machine. Thanks for confirming where my Parents machine is made. I guess that's the old Tricity Bendix factory. Will this have the split-tub? The cabinet doesn't have a split down the sides but i didn't know if this means the tub itself is also in one piece? We have the standard Zanussi drum with small grey paddles. Are all the new Jetsystem 7kg & 8kg machines fitted with serviceable tubs, or just the ZWH7162J? I noticed this machine has an Inverter Motor like the 8kg models, but according to Zanussi's website the 7142J & 7122J don't. Liam | ||
| Post# 604991 , Reply# 55 6/20/2012 at 09:46 (334 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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| Post# 604995 , Reply# 56 6/20/2012 at 10:13 (334 days old) by andyvivo (Essex) | ||
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Oh dear, always handy to have a back up lol. Just take your pick =) How is the Aqulatis playing up? | ||
| Post# 604997 , Reply# 57 6/20/2012 at 10:28 (334 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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the 3 LED displays dont work properly anymore, every 2 in 5 washes. you turn it on as normal and the controls light up as normal, then when the displays go into work mode, only half of them display anything, when i used it myself i closed the door and started it, it the flashed up "DoOr" on the temperature display.
6 years mind, its been the longest lasting washer we've had :) will be saving for a miele next year anyway lol Tom :) | ||
| Post# 604999 , Reply# 58 6/20/2012 at 10:43 (334 days old) by jetsystem1200 (Lincoln, UK) | ||
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| Post# 605002 , Reply# 59 6/20/2012 at 10:49 (334 days old) by andyvivo (Essex) | ||
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You have no worries on this one! =D | ||
| Post# 605020 , Reply# 60 6/20/2012 at 12:19 (334 days old) by jetsystem1200 (Lincoln, UK) | ||
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| Post# 605025 , Reply# 61 6/20/2012 at 12:48 (334 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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| Post# 605032 , Reply# 63 6/20/2012 at 13:36 (334 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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i had suspected that they were from poland :)
the vid in the link is a tour of elux's factories in poland :) Tom :) CLICK HERE TO GO TO aegokocarat's LINK | ||
| Post# 605038 , Reply# 64 6/20/2012 at 13:59 (334 days old) by ANDYVIVO (Essex) | ||
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not seen this one before | ||
| Post# 605043 , Reply# 65 6/20/2012 at 14:12 (334 days old) by jetsystem1200 (Lincoln, UK) | ||
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| Post# 605044 , Reply# 66 6/20/2012 at 14:22 (334 days old) by ANDYVIVO (Essex) | ||
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August / September is here soon, so yep there will be =) | ||
| Post# 605387 , Reply# 69 6/21/2012 at 18:26 (333 days old) by FL1012 (Oxfordshire, UK) | ||
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I'm getting a condensor, as Andy correctly said, because of the practicalities of it - i won't be able to externally vent a vented dryer where i'm moving to and i don't want to have to keep a steady flow of ice in the freezer for a condensor box. If i had a choice i'd be saving my money & making do with the quicker, quieter vented dryer i already own, which i won't be getting rid of anyway. There is certainly no snobbery towards condensors where i'm concerned, it's purely more practical to have one for the time being!
I agree that the sealed tubs being used on many Electrolux washers is a great shame & i believe it will cost them customers as it's not the sort of corner-cutting people would associate with Zanussi or AEG. However, if Bosch's lower models (ie Clasixx models) also have sealed tubs then BSH are little better, since you'd struggle to get a BSH machine with accesible bearings for Zanussi money. You'd have to spend AEG money to get a BSH machine with accesible bearings & then unless you buy a Siemens machine (5yr warranty) you get a 2 year warranty compared to AEGs 5 years on similar priced machines. I do think AEG should fit split tubs but if they're gonna pick up the tab if the bearings go before the machines 5th Birthday then that lessens my anxiety somewhat. To be honest it's about only spending upto a set amount on a particular make of machine. If you want a Zanussi, it's not worth spending more than £300 since you're living on borrowed time after the 3rd year & will have no backup should things fail beyond year 1. AEG still has a place in the market but i wouldn't spend more than £500 on one unless a 5yr warranty was included, particularly now they've started using welded tubs. A £500+ machine with a 2 year warranty (such as a high spec Bosch or entry Miele) is a poor deal in my opinion since if they fail at 4-5 years the customer is on their own & faces scrapping a machine that cost significantly more than a Zanussi within a similar timeframe to a Zanussi. It's also arguable that unless you're a particular fan of Miele, Siemens makes more sence until you reach £900+ as they have a 5yr warranty on products of around £600 compared to the stingy 2 year on many Miele products costing even more. Yes a Siemens might be getting tired earlier than a Miele but if a £600 Siemens fails in year 6 or 7 you've had your moneys worth. If a Miele costing £700-£900 fails in year 6 or 7 you could feel abit short-changed with no warranty back-up, but it can happen. Ofcourse the Miele machines with 5 or 10 year warranty would be preferable to an AEG or Siemens but this more generous warranty seems to be increasingly rare on Miele's that i've seen and spending upwards of £500 on anything with only 2-years backing would be a struggle for me, regardless of badge reputation - it's too much to potentially lose if things fail prematurely. Liam | ||
| Post# 605570 , Reply# 71 6/22/2012 at 11:25 (332 days old) by jetsystem1200 (Lincoln, UK) | ||
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My Zanussi came with a 2 year guarantee as I purchased a Jetsystem model before Christmas. Also, I bought it because I am loyal to the Electrolux group and I read somewhere that Jetsystem models have split tubs. I also wanted an inverter motor, and the Zanussi model provided me with that. Don't get me wrong, I love Bosch and Hotpoint, but the Bosch did not have the same quality feel as the Zanussi did and the Bosch was £100 more expensive.
Finn | ||
| Post# 605590 , Reply# 72 6/22/2012 at 11:55 (332 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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my zanussi taxed me when i bought it (it cost £440) and i had terrible trouble with it. i would gladly buy any other brand for washers bar zanussi
dryers on the other hand i recomend zanussi,BSH group, indesit company and whirlpool. zanussi's service center were of absoloutley no help, after moaning to them they caved and sent out an engener, her told me that the washer should never have left the premises and the problem should have been detected when testing. Tom :) | ||
| Post# 606914 , Reply# 73 6/28/2012 at 17:01 (326 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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| Post# 607059 , Reply# 74 6/29/2012 at 11:36 (325 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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| Post# 607060 , Reply# 75 6/29/2012 at 11:38 (325 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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| Post# 607172 , Reply# 76 6/29/2012 at 18:07 (325 days old) by andyvivo (Essex) | ||
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Hi Tom, The Bommann is exactly the same as the Montpellier, identical detailing to the lower kick plate (in term of screw locations) Where the exact donor of tooling, or ideas remains undecided. | ||
| Post# 607173 , Reply# 77 6/29/2012 at 18:22 (325 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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| Post# 607175 , Reply# 78 6/29/2012 at 18:27 (325 days old) by andyvivo (Essex) | ||
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I don't think with the costs involved that he initial tooling for this product is going to be too expensive given the prices in China etc. Crosslee will feel the squeeze soon from this source =/ | ||
| Post# 607176 , Reply# 79 6/29/2012 at 18:29 (325 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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| Post# 607179 , Reply# 80 6/29/2012 at 18:43 (325 days old) by andyvivo (Essex) | ||
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Thing is though, the Chinese will copy anything, no questions asked. I could give them my ex and I would get a carbon copy lol Not that I would want two of them, one was bad enough! =D | ||
| Post# 607182 , Reply# 81 6/29/2012 at 19:06 (325 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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| Post# 607963 , Reply# 82 7/3/2012 at 15:02 (321 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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| Post# 607964 , Reply# 83 7/3/2012 at 15:04 (321 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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| Post# 607965 , Reply# 84 7/3/2012 at 15:06 (321 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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| Post# 607966 , Reply# 85 7/3/2012 at 15:08 (321 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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| Post# 607967 , Reply# 86 7/3/2012 at 15:11 (321 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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| Post# 607969 , Reply# 87 7/3/2012 at 15:16 (321 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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| Post# 607970 , Reply# 88 7/3/2012 at 15:18 (321 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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| Post# 607977 , Reply# 89 7/3/2012 at 15:22 (321 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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| Post# 607999 , Reply# 90 7/3/2012 at 16:00 (321 days old) by andyvivo (Essex) | ||
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I think the drum is a good give away CLICK HERE TO GO TO andyvivo's LINK | ||
| Post# 608268 , Reply# 93 7/4/2012 at 15:58 (320 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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| Post# 608271 , Reply# 94 7/4/2012 at 16:06 (320 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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Post# 608272 , Reply# 95 7/4/2012 at 16:22 (320 days old) by chestermikeuk (Cheshire, England, UK) |
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 We had seen it before....its on Maturasigmas thread few months ago!!!
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| Post# 608275 , Reply# 96 7/4/2012 at 16:52 (320 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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| Post# 608281 , Reply# 97 7/4/2012 at 17:17 (320 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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Post# 608304 , Reply# 98 7/4/2012 at 18:40 (320 days old) by chestermikeuk (Cheshire, England, UK) |
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| Post# 610500 , Reply# 99 7/16/2012 at 07:32 (309 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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| Post# 610529 , Reply# 100 7/16/2012 at 10:07 (308 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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| Post# 610531 , Reply# 101 7/16/2012 at 10:25 (308 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales) | ||
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| Post# 613428 , Reply# 102 7/30/2012 at 09:39 (294 days old) by HotpointFan (Leeds, England) | ||
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| Post# 617172 , Reply# 103 8/15/2012 at 04:16 (279 days old) by HotpointFan (Leeds, England) | ||
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