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Post# 604164   6/16/2012 at 21:15 (4,303 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        

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It looks like the OctoPlus machines are available in the US now.

240V - 48XX sized machines.

OMG!

Malcolm





Post# 604170 , Reply# 1   6/16/2012 at 22:25 (4,303 days old) by mysteryclock (Franklin, TN)        

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Teeny bit expensive I suspect...

Post# 604183 , Reply# 2   6/17/2012 at 00:54 (4,303 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

Could you run one of these off of a dryer outlet if you changed out the receptacle?

A NEMA L6-30 looks like a twist lock connector..

I bet one of these would cost about as much as a new economy car...


Post# 604268 , Reply# 3   6/17/2012 at 15:13 (4,302 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Pricing

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I haven't been able to locate pricing online. Will have to contact my local dealer.

Malcolm


Post# 604278 , Reply# 4   6/17/2012 at 16:25 (4,302 days old) by aamassther (Hendersonville, NC )        

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My price list from fall of last year doesn't list the above model, the closest is the PW6101. Its a 10 KG machine with a 1200 RPM spin speed. It comes in around $14K. Larger machines go to upwards of $27K.

Post# 604289 , Reply# 5   6/17/2012 at 19:19 (4,302 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Little Giants

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I also noticed that the Little G machines are listed at 240v again.

Malcolm


Post# 604345 , Reply# 6   6/17/2012 at 23:40 (4,302 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

Aaaaaack!!!

I guess you would really have to be a dedicated enthusiast to be able to put aside enough money to buy one of these puppies.

I wonder what the rated lifecycle of these machines are...

They look beautiful.....


Post# 604404 , Reply# 7   6/18/2012 at 08:32 (4,302 days old) by bellaboy ()        
miele

this washer cost a bout 3000-5000 dollars in norway or 30000 nok depending on heating and draining etc it is built to last 20 years and her miele gives 10 years warranty .

Post# 604413 , Reply# 8   6/18/2012 at 09:42 (4,301 days old) by chris74 ()        
Somehow over the top

I think this is not an appliance for a common household...

Post# 604632 , Reply# 9   6/18/2012 at 20:12 (4,301 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
True...

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These machines are not for average household.

Malcolm


Post# 604651 , Reply# 10   6/18/2012 at 22:34 (4,301 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Not At 2 208v-240v

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Electrical connections they sure aren't. *LOL*

Post# 605406 , Reply# 11   6/21/2012 at 20:45 (4,298 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Pricing

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Washer: 4500
Dryer: 3500

Very close to the cost of the Little Giants.

Malcolm


Post# 605645 , Reply# 12   6/22/2012 at 16:59 (4,297 days old) by mysteryclock (Franklin, TN)        

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Expensive, but you're right - sort of in the same league as the Little Giants (only bigger.) The electrical requirements could be a big lift, though - aren't they 2 x 240v or something like that? But at least they have a drain pump model washer so you don't have to jackhammer up your concrete floor to install a drain trench!!



Post# 605678 , Reply# 13   6/22/2012 at 21:14 (4,297 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Both machines...

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require 240VAC single phase. Not a difficult issue.

The Little Giants will require a transformer for the dryer to step the voltage down to 208VAC. An additional $200. expense.

Still researching the Octo machines. They seem like a perfect fit for me.

Malcolm



Post# 605685 , Reply# 14   6/22/2012 at 21:30 (4,297 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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At 4.0 to 4.8 kW of power that is allot of juice just to do laundry. *LOL*

Given our local rates I'd have to pass, even if it were possible.


Post# 605689 , Reply# 15   6/22/2012 at 21:53 (4,297 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Load

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Same load as the Little Giants.

Malcolm


Post# 605918 , Reply# 16   6/24/2012 at 07:17 (4,296 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Dealer

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Went down to the dealership yesterday to crunch some numbers. Seems the pricing detailed above was a little low. The Octo set would work out to around 12K in the end. Further, Miele is hesitant to sell the Octo set to residential customers because the child safety features were not built into it.

On another note, Miele Professional did point me to exactly the transformer they would use to configure the Little Giant dryer to operate on 240VAC. And it is less than $200. So now I am back to looking at the Little Giant set. Need to do some homework on how much involved an additional 240 drop to the laundry room would require.

There must be a support group for people like me. Oh wait, its aw.org!

Malcolm


Post# 605919 , Reply# 17   6/24/2012 at 07:20 (4,296 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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It's what I've always wanted. A bit out of my price range though. Will it boil wash, that's the question!


Post# 605921 , Reply# 18   6/24/2012 at 07:35 (4,296 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Boil

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I believe it will boil wash and in under an hour, too.

Malcolm


Post# 605937 , Reply# 19   6/24/2012 at 09:36 (4,296 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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Can you post the address for the site for these machines? I want to drool.


Post# 605970 , Reply# 20   6/24/2012 at 12:45 (4,295 days old) by mysteryclock (Franklin, TN)        

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Are the Little Giant capacities any bigger than the W3033 and its companion dryer? I.e. are the drum dimensions larger or are they rated for heavier loads due to beefier components?

Boil wash capability would be nice, I admit...


Post# 606034 , Reply# 21   6/24/2012 at 17:05 (4,295 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Capacity

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I am not sure that the drum size is any larger than the 3033 machine, but the PW6065 is rated a full kilo larger.

Malcolm


Post# 606136 , Reply# 22   6/25/2012 at 05:38 (4,295 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

Malcolm, you are seriously considering buying these?

Post# 606163 , Reply# 23   6/25/2012 at 08:06 (4,295 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
I seriously

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doubt this would be a good buy for a laundromat and for a home -its ridiculous.

But there is a a lot of ridiculous money out there.





Post# 606166 , Reply# 24   6/25/2012 at 09:04 (4,295 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Consideration

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Qualin,

Yeah. I am considering it.

Malcolm


Post# 606327 , Reply# 25   6/26/2012 at 02:09 (4,294 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

Wow, good luck if you do. Now that's is what I call dedication!!

Your laundry room is going to be the envy of the entire forum! :)

You'll have to take some video of this thing in action, as well as the lights when this thing kicks into spin. :)

Will these be in addition to your existing Imperials or replacing them?


Post# 606345 , Reply# 26   6/26/2012 at 06:15 (4,294 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Waivering

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Well, my desire to own the Little Giant machines is waivering a bit. They woould be in addition to the Imperials for the time being.

Still not 100% giving up, but the bottom line is, 9K is a LOT-O-DOH.

Malcolm


Post# 606365 , Reply# 27   6/26/2012 at 08:20 (4,294 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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Yes, it's two thousand dollar less than I'm paying a year now for f**king health insurance. If any corporate fascist had asked me, I would have preferred the Mieles.


Post# 606375 , Reply# 28   6/26/2012 at 09:26 (4,294 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Side Note

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I did learn that my local reseller has a brand new set of 4842 in crates in his warehouse. Plus, he has his floor model set on stands for sale at 2900.

Malcolm


Post# 606546 , Reply# 29   6/26/2012 at 22:13 (4,293 days old) by grahamW ()        
Little Giants

I have a Canadian Little Giant (PW6065) and it's wired for 240v single phase not 208v. According to my source, it is optionally available in 3phase but it isn't too common.

Post# 762688 , Reply# 30   6/10/2014 at 07:48 (3,580 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
OctoPlus Videos

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Found these last night.
Thought they should be posted.











Enjoy!

Malcolm


Post# 762745 , Reply# 31   6/10/2014 at 11:52 (3,579 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)        

Thanks very interesting.  It looks like no attempt is made to balance the load between the washes and rinses and  it just starts into the spin while the water is coming out.  I think It makes for a noisy mess of a spin but I guess vibration doesn't matter that much because of the type of suspension being used.

 

My washer spins the tub to the right, why does this one spin to the left...anyone know why?

 

I think I would prefer the little giant to this because of the noise.  Of course I will never have enough clothes to make a load in this washer either.

 

Thanks again for finding the vids.


Post# 765793 , Reply# 32   6/25/2014 at 09:44 (3,564 days old) by suburbanmd (Maryland, USA)        
Can't get it

The PW 6080 looked like the answer to the question of what I would do when my W4840 died. Or maybe even before. It would fit in the same space, weighs around the same, and would be plumbing-compatible. The 240V outlet (I believe it's one, not two) wouldn't be hard to add. But Miele stopped talking to me when I said I wanted to install it at home, and one of the big Internet dealers just told me it isn't UL approved. I never even managed to get a price for it. They'd be happy to sell me a PW 6137, which is too big and heavy, and only comes with a dump valve.

Post# 765903 , Reply# 33   6/25/2014 at 15:58 (3,564 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Right

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I got the same response when I inquired about it. Although I was given pricing beforehand. Seems the exposed suspension system makes it non-approvable for home use. Just as well, I guess. You'd probably never get one properly serviced in the states...

Malcolm


Post# 765944 , Reply# 34   6/25/2014 at 17:59 (3,564 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Domestic Use

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My guess is these washers really aren't happy on anything less than solid and firm flooring such as concrete. So to avoid complaints from unhappy customers better to nip potential sale in the bud.

My Miele W1070 will make several attempts to balance a load, but if it cannot will simply launch the spin regardless, banging and clanging away. Happily one never leaves the unit unattended and thus am around to stop the machine and usually manually rebalance the load.

If you look at the difference between say my Miele and other washers from that brand and say my Oko-Lavmat the differences in suspension systems is striking.

Miele machines use commercial grade shocks which along with the cast iron cradle are designed to cope with forces generated by unbalanced loads. OTOH the Lavamat's suspension seems weaker IMHO but then again the computer programming on this machine will simply abort a spin if it senses a badly unbalanced load. That or it will do so at a very reduced speed to lessen movement of the drum.


Post# 765956 , Reply# 35   6/25/2014 at 18:43 (3,564 days old) by logixx (Germany)        
Exposed suspension

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That sounds possible... but what about Asko then?

Post# 765960 , Reply# 36   6/25/2014 at 18:54 (3,564 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Asko's

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Back when I purchased Asko, you could only get the machine with the outer drop down door in the States. I guess it resolves them of the liability of being sued after the fact.

Malcolm


Post# 765962 , Reply# 37   6/25/2014 at 18:57 (3,564 days old) by suburbanmd (Maryland, USA)        
Domestic vs commercial use

The laundry in some homes is situated on a concrete floor, whether in the basement, on a slab, or even in the garage. For that matter, businesses can be located in former residences with shaky floors.

If Miele is concerned about safety, I wonder if you can satisfy them by isolating the machine from household children and pets. Is it enough to put the laundry equipment behind a steel door with a deadbolt lock? If not, how about building a locked outbuilding exclusively for laundry?


Post# 765971 , Reply# 38   6/25/2014 at 19:11 (3,564 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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None of the current Askos seem to have the drop down door any longer.

Post# 804711 , Reply# 39   1/18/2015 at 08:28 (3,358 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Octoplus in AUS

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Looks like Miele will sell Octoplus machines to the residential marketplace in Australia. Interesting they don't want to sell them in the states.






Malcolm


Post# 804717 , Reply# 40   1/18/2015 at 08:59 (3,357 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        
Retry

Why not just ask Miele again and point them to that video? I guess, this move could move them a bit?

Post# 804720 , Reply# 41   1/18/2015 at 09:23 (3,357 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        
Dryer noise

As this post came up again, I just checked the washer and dryer again.
The washer has a maximum noise level of 78dB during spin. That is about comparable with a normal washer on highest speed. Not anywhere silent, but normal.
But the dryer is labeled 82dB. That's louder than the washer. And it runs continously with no big interuption in noise during operation. For me, a continous hour of 82dB noise would turn me away from the dryer, even though it has 2 independent motors ( equals freely programmable reversing).


Post# 804775 , Reply# 42   1/18/2015 at 17:07 (3,357 days old) by mielerod69 (Australia)        
Miele Professional for the Home

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Hi Malcolm,

When I worked at Miele, I was part of the Professional for the Home project. These machines had to be approved for home use by getting an energy and water label on them. Also the power had to be single phase 240 V, 25 amp to keep the running times short. A set with the pedestals here in oz sets you back $14K.


Post# 804788 , Reply# 43   1/18/2015 at 18:29 (3,357 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Pricing...

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I believe the pricing is on par with my last quote here in the states.
A little pricey, IMO.

Malcolm


Post# 805317 , Reply# 44   1/22/2015 at 08:49 (3,353 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney)        

Not only is it a bit pricey, but knowing that a significant number of consumers do only cold washes, it is overkill. Not only that, but I suspect that households prepared to fork out this kind of money for a set would probably have domestic help to do the laundry. For a business these machines would be ideal though.


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