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Post# 607566   7/2/2012 at 06:03 (4,315 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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First Up is the UM-4




Post# 607567 , Reply# 1   7/2/2012 at 06:06 (4,315 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
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The Hobart UMP-4

This has the SS Cabinet.

The UM series later were available in the "Chloritizer" Series which meant they worked without 180 degree water and used Bleach as a Sanitizer.


Post# 607568 , Reply# 2   7/2/2012 at 06:08 (4,315 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
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The SM-6T2

This was popular in Luncheonettes. Utilized a 16X16 rack.


Post# 607569 , Reply# 3   7/2/2012 at 06:12 (4,315 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
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This is the LM-2

Larger Version of the SM.

This used sa 19 3/4X19 3/4 Rack. All machines from this model on use 19 3/4 X 19 3/4 Racks


Post# 607571 , Reply# 4   7/2/2012 at 06:13 (4,315 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
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The AM Series.

These were and still are the most Popular Model in Small to Medium size Operations.


Post# 607572 , Reply# 5   7/2/2012 at 06:16 (4,315 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
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These were the Workhorses in Larger Volume Restaurants.

The CM and XM Series

Note the Size of the Motor on the left that drives the Crescent R-1 Reducer that drives the Converyor and Look at the Size of the Pump on the right.


Post# 607573 , Reply# 6   7/2/2012 at 06:20 (4,315 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
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The CCM-2

Love this Machine.

Next Frame is of the "Phantom View"


Post# 607574 , Reply# 7   7/2/2012 at 06:23 (4,315 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
CCM-2

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"Phantom View"

Wash Chamber. Note the 4 way Revolving Wash Arm on top and the Stationary Wash Arm below.

I actually used a smaller version of this machine when I was about 12.


Post# 607575 , Reply# 8   7/2/2012 at 06:24 (4,315 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
CCM-2

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Power Rinse Chamber and Final Rinse

Post# 607576 , Reply# 9   7/2/2012 at 06:26 (4,315 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
FT "Flight Series"

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Here's a Baby Flight Machine.

These were popular in Cafeterias and Hospitals.


Post# 607577 , Reply# 10   7/2/2012 at 06:29 (4,315 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
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One of the "Big Kahunas"

These again were used in Hotels, Hospitals or any Huge Volume Operations


Post# 607603 , Reply# 11   7/2/2012 at 09:00 (4,315 days old) by william637 (Damp pants? Not a chance. )        
Great Brochures

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Thanks for this post.  My church has an LM-2.  I have only seen it operational twice.  As of now, it is just collecting dust.  The control arm will not move into the rinse position, and the wash arm has rusted into a fixed position.  It kills me everytime I walk into the kitchen and see it. 


Post# 607667 , Reply# 12   7/2/2012 at 13:58 (4,315 days old) by washerman (cape town)        
THe local greasy spoon

had a SM-6T2 at the very front of the U shaped counter. IT was right in front of the gas powered coffee maker up front. They must have been some machines in their time! I wonder what ever happend to that machine.....

Post# 607674 , Reply# 13   7/2/2012 at 14:43 (4,315 days old) by dishwasherfan (Phoenix, AZ)        
Thank's for the memories

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My 1st job in 1978 age 15 was a dishwasher in a nursing home. They had the Hobart CM-2 & I remember they sent a rep out from Hobart to teach us how to use the machine, & he called himself a professional dishwasher.

Post# 607720 , Reply# 14   7/2/2012 at 17:39 (4,314 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
Awesome thread Eddie

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As we both know NOTHING! Beats a Hobart DW. Here's a pic of an AM-9-t2. Still in daily use! Yes I know I featured this machine in a previous thread but it is SSSOOOO! awesome. I'll get some pics of the AM-14 at the hellhole er I mean restaurant later tonight.
Nick WK78


Post# 607815 , Reply# 15   7/2/2012 at 23:31 (4,314 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
I thought you'd like this Thread Nick.

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As I was scanning, I knew you would be crazy over this Older Machines.

There are soooooo many details about how these machines evolved.

But I will always say, " This was back in the day when America stood for quality."

Look at the Pride and Skill of Every Part that was Turned or Manufactured. The specification Sheets stated the Quality of each machine and Hobart was Proud.

I had a recent LX Glass waher break down, and it was probably a Timer Board.

Years ago, it would be a buss fuse or a poorly maintained machine.

SIGH!!!!!!!!


Post# 607825 , Reply# 16   7/3/2012 at 00:41 (4,314 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

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What's curious is that I have never been "IN" a commercial kitchen yet I recognize all but the biggest Hobarts on sight.

Post# 607832 , Reply# 17   7/3/2012 at 01:00 (4,314 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
I know it Eddie

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All the newer machines have the electronics and cheap China-made parts that break down on a regular basis. At least you have a Hobart LXG and not a Canadian Disaster built to break Moyer Diebel POS carousel glasswasher behind the bar. That damn thing does 1/10'th the work the Hobart AM-14 does and shits a brick 10x as often.

As far as old Hobart DW's I have experienced a KDS-15, AM-9-T2, WM-5H, AM-11, AM-12, CM-2, C-44, KDI-20 and KDP-20. For the modern Hobarts I've worked with the C-44A, Am-14, FT-820 KDS-21 and LX-30 All were great. I will take exception on the made for Ecolab/Ecotemp ET-20 and ET-40, While better than an Auto-Chlor or Jackson they did not perform to the usual Hobart washing standards. I have also used older Blakeslee, Champion, Vulcan, and ADS DW's.
Nick WK78


Post# 607871 , Reply# 18   7/3/2012 at 06:29 (4,314 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Blakeslee...

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You know I thought of them the other day as I never see or hear of them anymore. They did a OK job though. I Googled them the other day and they still are in business.

The old Round Jacksons were a surprising performer to me. You could beat the crap out of them and they would still keep working.

I had the pleasure of working with a ToastMaster Door type machine. Stationary Spray Arms above and below yielded poor results constantly but still OK. In the 3 years that machine was in my kitchen, it never broke down.


Post# 608081 , Reply# 19   7/3/2012 at 20:37 (4,313 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Eddie that is some really nice literiture !
And thanks for posting and patience it took.

When I was in a boys group for young teens for the summer my mom
put me in.
They had a large kitchen with a single rack model with
those HEFTY BEEFY wash arms.
Everyone would leave after lunch and I of course stayed
around and watch Mr Hollopa run the machine.
He would start it and open it up real quick for me to see
the action ...WELL HE GOT BLASTED AS WELL AS I AND THE
FLOOR LOL.
I would help him mop it up ,,Boy thats a power house of a machine.

Darren k


Post# 608099 , Reply# 20   7/3/2012 at 23:23 (4,313 days old) by A440 ()        
Awesome Scans!

Thanks so much for these scans! What history!
The elementary school that I went to had the AM-6 model with Gas Burner to heat the water. It is wild to read that it was "unregulated". Kind of scary.
They would let us kids help in the kitchen after meals to clean up. Luckily no one wanted to work the Hobart! I got to use it everyday! I would love to go back in time just for one day and use it again.
Also...look how giant the electric motors were! HUGE!
Thanks again for the scans!
Brent


Post# 608160 , Reply# 21   7/4/2012 at 06:34 (4,313 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
But Wait... There's More...

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Older Version of the AM Series.

The doors opened at the same time due to a weight, chain, and pulley system inside the chamber.




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Post# 608161 , Reply# 22   7/4/2012 at 06:36 (4,313 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
A Double Tank AM

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This one's a Beast !!!

Look at the size of that Motor.

Pumps : 175 gallons per minute !!!




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Post# 608163 , Reply# 23   7/4/2012 at 06:38 (4,313 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
The XM Series

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Note the difference in the arrangement of the Motor and the Reducer for the Conveyor Drive. The Motor is now Centered and the reducer is driven off the left side of the motor taking up less space.

Post# 608165 , Reply# 24   7/4/2012 at 06:39 (4,313 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
XM-4-ID

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Note how this one has the Inspection Door

Post# 608167 , Reply# 25   7/4/2012 at 06:41 (4,313 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
XXM-4

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Now Here is a Beast

Post# 608168 , Reply# 26   7/4/2012 at 06:42 (4,313 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
XXM-4

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Phantom View of the Power Wash Side. These machines can be set up for Left to Right Operation or Right to Left.

Post# 608169 , Reply# 27   7/4/2012 at 06:43 (4,313 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
XXM-4

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Phantom View of the Power Rinse Side

Post# 608174 , Reply# 28   7/4/2012 at 07:24 (4,313 days old) by washer111 ()        
Interesting

What wonderful dishwashers these must be. I bet every person would love to have a dishwasher that could clean in under 5minutes:)

I saw a video of an absorption chiller working once, and one part or another actually looked like a giant dishwasher (probably some sort of heat exchange).


Post# 608205 , Reply# 29   7/4/2012 at 10:16 (4,313 days old) by A440 ()        

These are so cool.
I wonder how many from this time period are still in operation?
Brent


Post# 608230 , Reply# 30   7/4/2012 at 12:21 (4,313 days old) by kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Being a newbie to commercial dishwshers, can you let us know approximately what year the first and second series of brochures that you posted date from? Thanks for the great posts!

Post# 608233 , Reply# 31   7/4/2012 at 12:53 (4,313 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Ah

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Blast n Wash!



Not this "squirt gun - hope" and wait-n-soak method we have today!



Post# 608250 , Reply# 32   7/4/2012 at 13:58 (4,313 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        

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The parochial school I went to still has a fully functioning Model AM-6, and the county nursing home where my grandmother resides has the Model XXM-4 still in daily use.  I used the AM-6 as a cafeteria aide in 8th grade.  I've also seen the XXM-4 in use as I've had to walk past the kitchen when grandma was doing an activity in the dining room when I was there for a visit.  That dining room had a very strong chlorine smell because of the dishwasher being so close to the doorway.


Post# 608269 , Reply# 33   7/4/2012 at 16:03 (4,313 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
The dates of the machines

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Stevet would know for sure. As a matter of fact, I'm surprised he hasn't chimed in on this thread.

I'm going to say the CM series are late 40s - early 50's while the XM series would be mid 50s through early 60's.

Hey Steve... Where are you ?


Post# 609197 , Reply# 34   7/9/2012 at 07:18 (4,308 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
I have the UM brochure

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will try to get that up this week and add to this thread.



Post# 609348 , Reply# 35   7/10/2012 at 06:16 (4,307 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Brent...

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As far as I know, there are a few UMs, AMs, and maybe one or two XMs or CMs still in operation here on the Cape. As they are probably in Seasonal Restaurants that are only ran 4-7 months out of the year.


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