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Post# 609446   7/10/2012 at 16:14 (4,300 days old) by fsp95405 ()        

Hi everyone, my id supremewhirlpol doesn't work, so I'm using the id fsp45905.
I have 2 machines that must go:
RCA Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII 3 speed with Super wash
model number:LRA992
This machine needs a belt, but otherwise works.

Whirlpool Design2000 6 cycle 2speed
model number: LA5600XPW3
no issues with this machine

I want these machines to go to good homes, rather than the scrap yard. First come first served. If interested, please contact me through email.





Post# 609447 , Reply# 1   7/10/2012 at 16:15 (4,300 days old) by fsp95405 ()        

lid open

Post# 609448 , Reply# 2   7/10/2012 at 16:17 (4,300 days old) by fsp95405 ()        

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Post# 609449 , Reply# 3   7/10/2012 at 16:18 (4,300 days old) by fsp95405 ()        

The other machine:

Post# 609450 , Reply# 4   7/10/2012 at 16:19 (4,300 days old) by fsp95405 ()        

lid open

Post# 609451 , Reply# 5   7/10/2012 at 16:19 (4,300 days old) by fsp95405 ()        

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Post# 610827 , Reply# 6   7/17/2012 at 21:01 (4,293 days old) by fsp95405 ()        

These machines are free to a good home, otherwise LAST CALL! They and the condenser get carted off Friday!

Post# 610832 , Reply# 7   7/17/2012 at 21:16 (4,293 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

Wow, that's a spin-drain direct drive, those certainly aren't too common.

Post# 610898 , Reply# 8   7/18/2012 at 06:57 (4,293 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Old WP Mark 12 washer

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Hi Melvin, If no one claims this washer I would love to get the complete control face with all the electrical components attached to use in restoring the same washer that I have, I will try to call you later or call me Thanks John.

Post# 610994 , Reply# 9   7/18/2012 at 18:06 (4,292 days old) by laundryboy (Orlando Florida & Moravia NY. )        

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I'll buy the whirlpool Bakelite agitator if you don't give the machines away.

Post# 611001 , Reply# 10   7/18/2012 at 18:18 (4,292 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Where are the lint filters?

Post# 611004 , Reply# 11   7/18/2012 at 18:26 (4,292 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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for the belt drive theres the "magic clean" self cleaning filter......

for the direct drive.....theres the self clean comb filter under the inner tub....if there is one!


Post# 611006 , Reply# 12   7/18/2012 at 18:33 (4,292 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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"self clean comb filter under the inner tub". I always thought those vintage say mid 70's Whirlpools had that waterfall lint filter with either the "bed of nails" or "bristle brush".

Post# 611018 , Reply# 13   7/18/2012 at 19:12 (4,292 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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I always thought those vintage say mid 70's Whirlpools had that waterfall lint filter with either the "bed of nails" or "bristle brush".

Neither of these machines is a 1970s model.

The LRA9920 Imperial Mark XII is 1968.  Top-of-the-line model, recirculating/self-cleaning filter module outside the tub, mounted in the cabinet.  Lower-end models at that time would have had a brush filter.

The LA5600XP Design 2000 is 1985.  Direct-drive machines can't have recirculating filters, the pump doesn't support it.  The only kind of filter they can have is passive.  Very early Kenmore models (not sure about Whirlpool) had a manual clean filter in the agitator barrel, which worked via water currents similar to classic Maytags.  Otherwise, direct-drive models, and also belt-drives toward the end, had a comb filter mounted under the spin basket.  Small fins under the agitator base helped move water through the filter, then collected lint was "spun off" for self-cleaning.


Post# 611058 , Reply# 14   7/19/2012 at 00:02 (4,292 days old) by fsp95405 ()        

I think LRA is 1967-1966, otherwise this machine would be just a Whirlpool if it were 1968. This machine is RCA Whirlpool. Parting out = time I don't have. The Design 2000 DD above is NOT a spin-drain model. I just may post a pic of my spin-drain model Design 2000 if I get some time.

Post# 611124 , Reply# 15   7/19/2012 at 07:41 (4,292 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
1967 WP Washer

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Melvin give me call if you are going to recycle the WP, I can get someone in the area to pickup the control panel so shipping will not be an issue, John, my CP is 240-304-8471 Thanks

Post# 611144 , Reply# 16   7/19/2012 at 08:05 (4,292 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        
1967 vs. 1968

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I misread the chart by one line.

R = 1967
S = 1968


Post# 611163 , Reply# 17   7/19/2012 at 10:00 (4,292 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Glenn -

Whirlpool had a filter in some of their early DD agitators too, in fact they survived longer than Kenmore's did I think. One of my neighbors in 1986, when I bought my new BD, got a Whirlpool 27" direct drive with the 2.5 cu. ft basket. The agitator looked like the other Direct Drive Surgilators at the time, but the whole upper portion of the agitator snapped off to reveal a lint filter that needed to be manually cleaned. I think this configuration was in production for some time.

I know the WP parts catalog I have had an agitator diagram showing this set-up if you'd like me to scan it for you.

Gordon


Post# 611224 , Reply# 18   7/19/2012 at 16:58 (4,291 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
WP DD Washers With Agitator Mounted Lint Filters

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WP did not do this long on the 2.5 and 3 cubit foot tubs, I only remember seeing a few of these machines, however on the compact 1.5 cubic foot tub machines this filter was used on all WP and GE versions of this washer and is still being sold today, we installed a new 24" TT last week with this filter.

Post# 611235 , Reply# 19   7/19/2012 at 18:48 (4,291 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC)        
Is five or six years long?

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I checked the WP parts catalog from 6/1992. It lists full-size WP models into 1991 but only has three '91s. There are many non-portable models using the agitator with the filter from 1985 through 1990. The replacement part number for this agitator as a kit was 387838 (and may still be?). All the models that used it were middle line machines from LA5000XP to LA8200XW. Between those there are probably three dozen or more distinct models, mostly '85, '87, '88 and 1990 models. These may not have been popular models?

Since the book stops at 1991, I don't know if usage of the agitator continued beyond that point or not.

Gordon


Post# 611236 , Reply# 20   7/19/2012 at 18:56 (4,291 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC)        
Here is a picture of the agitator w/filter

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Scavenged from ebay:

Post# 611242 , Reply# 21   7/19/2012 at 19:29 (4,291 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Gordon,

My grandmother bought an LA7400XMW2 on 11/16/1984.  It had a one-piece, non- filter agitator.  Parts diagrams show the typical under-basket comb filter.

There is a wide range of designs.  Referencing diagrams @ SearsPartsDirect ...

LA5000XPW0 shows a one-piece agitator with a "plate" (doesn't appear to be a filter with comb fingers) under the basket.

LA5000XPW5 shows a two-piece agitator (with filter barrel), and also the under-basket plate.

LA7000XSW0 shows the two-piece filter-agitator plus under-basket comb filter.

LA7000XSW1 goes to a dual-action agitator with under-basket comb filter.

There are of course many more models.  I never saw a filter-agitator during the time I worked at a local Whirlpool dealer, but it was a small-town dealer stocking/selling select popular models.


Post# 611244 , Reply# 22   7/19/2012 at 19:45 (4,291 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Glenn,

Use of this filter agitators appears to have started with the 1985 XP models. WP's (and Kenmore's too) variations can be mind boggling.

The LA5000XP went from revision 0 to 5. There were a lot of DD revisions in the first few years, as compared to BDs of the same period. The 0 and 1 had the one piece agitator, part number 63235, while versions 2, 3, 4, and 5 had the removeable filter version. Must be a machine enhancement they made during the run.

The LA7000's drawing is deceiving, because it looks like a filter agitator, but it isn't. This is actually almost the same agitator, but the center section is not a filter, that's why there is an under basket disk filter included. That agitator kit is part number 64214, and the part that is the filter in the other agitator is called an "extension" on this one. Don't hold me to this, but I don't think the extension was as easy to snap off the agitator base as the filter is. One of my co-workers had his filter section come off the agitator during spin...can you imagine the noise?

I think several of the '87 models (the XS) changed to DA style agitators as soon as WP was able to start using them. They must have been somewhat anxious to do so to change their models mid-stream, vs. waiting for the XT versions to debut.

Gordon


Post# 611258 , Reply# 23   7/19/2012 at 22:11 (4,291 days old) by fsp95405 ()        

Well John, Perhaps maybe you may want to plan a trip to my house then. The GE combo is a fun machine, but not practical. It has to go too. Since it is modified, it will be leaving in pieces and non-working.

Post# 611309 , Reply# 24   7/20/2012 at 08:11 (4,291 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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That last agi pic looks like the agitator used in KitchenAid models?

Post# 611311 , Reply# 25   7/20/2012 at 08:24 (4,291 days old) by BrianL (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
The 67 RCA Whirlpool

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Hey Melvin,

I was working with John (combo52) this morning and he said he may be able to facilitate a picking up of the whole washer. I would like to reserve the machine as a whole and if you don't mind working with him on this. Please let me know. Thanks!!


Post# 611340 , Reply# 26   7/20/2012 at 12:30 (4,290 days old) by fsp95405 ()        

Brian, John, I will work with you. One of you should probably email me about how this will be worked out.

Post# 611345 , Reply# 27   7/20/2012 at 12:52 (4,290 days old) by BrianL (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
E-mailed you...

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I sent you an e-mail Melvin regarding the machine.

Hey John, would you mind if I passed this off to you at this point? Not sure how helpful I would be coordinating this on your end.

Thank you to everyone who is helping me out on this one.


Post# 611346 , Reply# 28   7/20/2012 at 13:09 (4,290 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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AWESOME that the BD is going to be saved!

Congrats Brian! Thanks for offering this Melvin!


Post# 611361 , Reply# 29   7/20/2012 at 14:35 (4,290 days old) by BrianL (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
I'm very excited!

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Thanks Gordon!

This will be my first TOL washer in my collection as well being my first chrome capped agitator. My granny had one when she had an early 80's Imperial TOL washer. This is an absoutely beautiful machine and I am so grateful to the members here helping me to retrieve it to Melvin for working with those members. I will definitely owe some people here when this is all said and done!


Post# 611369 , Reply# 30   7/20/2012 at 15:26 (4,290 days old) by fsp95405 ()        

It is a nice machine and a pleasure to work with and use it. But at the end of the day it is not practical for me, as most parts for it are discontinued. Brian I think you will like it. It even has a work light!

Post# 612746 , Reply# 31   7/27/2012 at 11:02 (4,284 days old) by 1966_mustang ()        

Did someone finally Buy this Belt drive macine???? If not I want a shot at getting it if I may..

Post# 612752 , Reply# 32   7/27/2012 at 11:41 (4,283 days old) by BrianL (Saddle Brook, New Jersey)        
It's on it's way to me hopefully

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Hey 1966_mustang, I am working on getting the 67 WP if that is the one you are referring to. I think the other one is still available.

Post# 613069 , Reply# 33   7/28/2012 at 21:29 (4,282 days old) by 1966_mustang ()        

Yeah the 67 WP is the one I am interested in.... If you don't get it I want it.


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