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Post# 614000   8/1/2012 at 12:53 (4,284 days old) by boschlover1997 ()        

everythings finished, i need to stop a leak at the bottom of the tub seal but that wont be a problem with bathroom sealant, and then i will upload the pics to the thread of the stages, the video link to the first run and how i did it when i have finished completely.
cheers, thanks especially Mathew and Fido for yout help.
George




Post# 614187 , Reply# 1   8/2/2012 at 09:48 (4,284 days old) by boschlover1997 ()        
Now the machine is all back together, here are some photos.

 The bearing tube after they had been taken out.

Post# 614189 , Reply# 2   8/2/2012 at 09:50 (4,284 days old) by boschlover1997 ()        
new bearings and seal

 the front bearing now has a dent right around it, but doesnt affect it at all.

Post# 614190 , Reply# 3   8/2/2012 at 09:52 (4,284 days old) by boschlover1997 ()        
new bearings fitted- front view

 these didnt take as long to put in as the old ones did to take out. probably because i didnt know how to do it at first lol

Post# 614191 , Reply# 4   8/2/2012 at 09:54 (4,284 days old) by boschlover1997 ()        
view from the front

 sorry.. meant to put back on the other photo.

Post# 614192 , Reply# 5   8/2/2012 at 09:55 (4,284 days old) by boschlover1997 ()        
drum back together and seal fitted

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Post# 614193 , Reply# 6   8/2/2012 at 09:56 (4,284 days old) by boschlover1997 ()        
back of drum

 pulley and belt fitted.

Post# 614194 , Reply# 7   8/2/2012 at 09:57 (4,284 days old) by boschlover1997 ()        
machine complete

 over all look on the machine. front

Post# 614195 , Reply# 8   8/2/2012 at 09:58 (4,284 days old) by boschlover1997 ()        
door.

 i accidentally snapped a little bit of the plastic off when i first got the machine.

Post# 614197 , Reply# 9   8/2/2012 at 10:00 (4,284 days old) by boschlover1997 ()        
drum and porthole.

 the door glass and drum are from the aquarius range, im assuming its had a new tub at some point and door glass.

Post# 614198 , Reply# 10   8/2/2012 at 10:01 (4,284 days old) by boschlover1997 ()        
typical hotpoint 95 drawer

 great condition.

Post# 614199 , Reply# 11   8/2/2012 at 10:01 (4,284 days old) by hotpointfan95 ()        
George...

 I'm lost for words!!!!
It looks amazing!! :'-)

Post# 614200 , Reply# 12   8/2/2012 at 10:02 (4,284 days old) by boschlover1997 ()        
inside of tray.

 also imaculate, although the softener bit seems a little flimsy.

Post# 614201 , Reply# 13   8/2/2012 at 10:04 (4,284 days old) by boschlover1997 ()        
programme guide.

 the ones in red are in connection to one of the option buttons i think? not sure which one though.

Post# 614202 , Reply# 14   8/2/2012 at 10:05 (4,284 days old) by boschlover1997 ()        
dial and option buttons.

 ...

Post# 614203 , Reply# 15   8/2/2012 at 10:06 (4,284 days old) by boschlover1997 ()        
cracked sidestrip

 when i got this machine from the junk yard, one of the sidestrips on the lid had cracked, and snapped completely when i caught it on my jumper. it does stay on though so its not too much of a problem.

Post# 614204 , Reply# 16   8/2/2012 at 10:09 (4,284 days old) by boschlover1997 ()        
its even got the guarantee sticker!

 20 odd years down the line and the sticker is still intact, amazing!
oh and also i have had to put some bathroom sealant on the bottom of the tub seal as it leaked when i tested it after i had put it back together. thanks for looking!

Post# 614208 , Reply# 17   8/2/2012 at 10:54 (4,284 days old) by boschlover1997 ()        
.

 heres a video

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Post# 614224 , Reply# 18   8/2/2012 at 11:40 (4,283 days old) by marthalover4eve ()        
drum

 that drum looks better in that machine more classy lol

Post# 614225 , Reply# 19   8/2/2012 at 11:48 (4,283 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        
6+Economy = Quick wash

Yes, the red one's do correspond to the Option buttons - Prog 6 is a 40C cycle, however selecting Half load, the machine activates the Quick wash, no heat cycle.
The Pre-wash is just red for some reason, the only reason I can think of is it is to warn you it's not a complete wash cycle, or it was in place for machines with Auto Pre-wash option?

On My WM31 the Fabric softener compartment is flimsy too, but they all are, it's just the way they were designed.

It does Look like the door glass has been changed from the Bowl to the Aquarius model door glasses. I also think it has the wrong drum? This one is 5KG, 50l, the one which may have came with the machine is a 46l one, no holes in the paddle - larger rim next to the rubber. Still at least with this one you will get slightly more power due to the holes in the paddles, there is better showering of the load.

Excellent result George though, bet you are really happy. Looks immaculate, and I hope your sealant works.

Post# 614227 , Reply# 20   8/2/2012 at 11:50 (4,283 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        
Woah! Typed it wrong (1st line of post) - Sorry!

 Economy + 6 is a Quickwash, not halfload + 6!! That just gives less water!

Post# 614229 , Reply# 21   8/2/2012 at 11:53 (4,283 days old) by miele4life (UK )        

good machine there, glad it's fouctioning alright again. As for the drum and glass design, this model must of been made in 1990, when they 1st appeared on the Hottie's. If u take a pic on the sticker at the back of the machine, I can work out when it was made by the first or last 2 digits in the serial number, for example, the last 2 digits being 95 would of been made in November 1977 or the first 2 digits being made in November 1985, so I have a good idea as to when this was made lol :)

Post# 614235 , Reply# 22   8/2/2012 at 12:07 (4,283 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        

After looking at it again - I can now see the drum has a large rim, and is 46l. It was specifically designed for later machines, such as 1990, as miele4life says, just before the 5KG models launched with the smaller rim.

Post# 614241 , Reply# 23   8/2/2012 at 12:42 (4,283 days old) by henrypeter21 ()        
9534

 Are these simular to the 18 Series?

MarthaLover4eve have you still got your 9526?

Post# 614257 , Reply# 24   8/2/2012 at 13:38 (4,283 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
Just a heads up .....

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Before you use the machine for a complete cycle you may want to turn the fabric conditioner compartment around so the syphon tubes at the back, You will find it drains better :)

Austin

Post# 614267 , Reply# 25   8/2/2012 at 14:47 (4,283 days old) by fido ()        

They are quite a bit different to the 18 series. For one thing they have a removable lid, far more sensible! They still have the GEC type motor mounted at the top but the tub is plastic, not metal. If I recall correctly, the 18 series had 3 bottom suspension units whereas the later models only had 2. Actually the washer dryers did retain the metal tubs for a few years before they too went to plastic. On the plastic tub the front comes off and is held on with clips, on the 18 series the back of the tub came off and was held with bolts, similar to the Hoover Logic setup.

Post# 614268 , Reply# 26   8/2/2012 at 14:54 (4,283 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        
Lovely machine!

 I'm so happy that we are now two very proud owners of two examples in great condition of the famous model! I hope you enjoy using yours as much as I do mine!

Your's is a later model from 89/90, your module is on the top with a later style timer whereas mine has the module at the bottom with the earlier timer, your drum is also original it just has the later style rear. I'm not sure about the syphon tube but I think that style did come into production at that time too.

Nice to see the sticker on yours and to see that your sidestrips are intact, mine has a chip on the left one and I also chipped the door handle on mine but super glue fixed that on again. You could fix it too if you had the chipped bit.

Post# 614278 , Reply# 27   8/2/2012 at 16:17 (4,283 days old) by Hoover1100 (U.K.)        
Nice

 Although ours is in storage at the moment, you do have to admire the simplicity and functionality of the programming and controls, and also how they could build something so flimsy from the outside (as you have discovered with how easily the plastics break and I'm sure will have noticed how much the cabinet bends and reverberates on spin!).

Luckily the door catch and lid trim is still available as a spare part if you look online, but it really can't be stressed how fragile they are!

As has been said before that is not the drum from the aquarius models, there are no holes in the paddles and it still has the thicker rim, just has the newer back and door glass, making it a late production run (again as has been said above).

I gather it also has the later style (unfortunately far more repair prone) interlock, by the lack of the unique buzzing noise when it's draining in your video.

Just to correct some of the above information, the later style "5kg" Aquarius style drum had a 45l volume not 50, I'm not sure of the exact capacity of the earlier drum, but naturally it's less than 46l.

Here's our 9530 on the day Marc collected it, aside from some adjustments to the belt and currently needing new brushes we've been extremely lucky, mechanically and cosmetically it's immaculate and all original; not bad for 25 years old! :)

Have also attached a link to the replacement door catch, and will post a link to replacement lid trims.

Matt

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Post# 614279 , Reply# 28   8/2/2012 at 16:22 (4,283 days old) by Hoover1100 (U.K.)        
And the lid trims...

 Above I also meant to say that it's amazing how they could make the machines so flimsy to the touch, but evidently maintain higher standards internally where it counts.



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Post# 614286 , Reply# 29   8/2/2012 at 17:06 (4,283 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        
sorry hoover1100 if i provided false information... but...

 Hotpoint told me directly the drum was 50l on the newer model's, when asking about my drum on My WM31. Why The drum develop some bumps around the paddles a few years back. Nothing to worry about though, no harm has been done in the 2 years they have been there. I was just asking Hotpoint what drum I should replace it with - the man on the phone to my dad on speaker phone, immediately said the WM31 drum is 50l and is available for immediate delivery. However with his knowledge ensured us the drum was not going to brake, and that bumps in this stainless steel was normal.

I have even been told by other people on this site the drum is 50l.
But mistakes happen, maybe you correct it is 45l/46l. Maybe no one is correct and it is 48l, or 52l. In fact I am now so curious to know, I am going to now experiment in future, with a large plastic sheet, and some water.

Post# 614287 , Reply# 30   8/2/2012 at 17:07 (4,283 days old) by boschlover1997 ()        

glenfield... thanks for the reply and filling me in on what they do. there are no holes in the paddles, so maybe it is a replacement for this machine just with the newer style?
miele4ever... yeah ok will do
henrypeter21... there are not many differences apart from the outside casing, and jack does not have a 9526 anymore, broke about a year ago.
aussie... cheers austin
supermaticjames... yeah we do aha, and tbh i prefer the newer drum look, but would really like to get my hands on an older door glass. yeah aha but it fell off at the yard i got it from and is lost now.
hoover1100...its a 9517 you have in storage isnt it? and yeah i blooming well have, when i put the fascia back on it cracked behind the dial, but luckily its not visible, and the sides are very very loud on spin. and actually, it does buzz when its draining, but when the waters gone out of the drum it goes like this. so i can tell when its emptied. sounds great when it starts to drain.
cheers for the links will definately look into it as i really want this looking perfect too.
thank you all for your kind replies and help for things i was unsure of.
george!:D

Post# 614288 , Reply# 31   8/2/2012 at 17:15 (4,283 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
well done

 George on completing the repair, I hope your justly proud of yourself, you should be enjoying that machine for many years to come.

I hope you treat yourself to the replacement door handle and whatever strips you need, just to finish the restoration off perfectly.

Matt, thats the model my grandmother replaced the english electric liberator with, it was the first machine I had seen in action spin at 1000 rpm. Yes they may have been thin cabinets, though stronger than what was to follow, (thinking of the creda supaspeeds and later dryers especially) and yet the pannels all came off for ease of repair.

I think its safe to say this series of machines washed for a generation.

Well done

Mathew

Post# 614289 , Reply# 32   8/2/2012 at 17:15 (4,283 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        
Reply #28

 I agree with that Statement!
Well done Hotpoint. Well done Great Britain!

Post# 614358 , Reply# 33   8/3/2012 at 04:36 (4,283 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        
Great thread!

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We got one of these machines brand new in 1988/89 to replace out 18371 hotty!

I can confirm it had that door glass from new. Perhaps they used those toward then end and on to the later restyled doors.

Ours had one of those drums fitted but we got one with holes in the paddles which turned it into an Aquarius wash system :-p

It didn't cause any problems and it danced around for another 6 years after that.

I'd love to find one to relive those old memories as well as a spin slider models from the same time perood. The countless times it used to lunge out and being 5 or 6 and the dryer being stacked ontop was pretty scary! Also I remember accidentally starting the spin on the wrong part of the dial and it span instantly full of water!!

Darren

Post# 614363 , Reply# 34   8/3/2012 at 06:17 (4,283 days old) by SuperElectronic (London, UK)        
Drum size in Hotpoint WM / Aquarius range

For those who are wondering about drum size, here's the page from the 1995 brochure where it gives you the specs...
Post# 614365 , Reply# 35   8/3/2012 at 06:22 (4,283 days old) by SuperElectronic (London, UK)        
Increased capacity did not mean a bigger drum...

The Ultima models apparently had the same size too...despite taking an extra 0.5 kg...

 

Does anyone have a full brochure with these specs from the 9lb loaders (later range brochures probably did; earlier ones didn't)?
Post# 614480 , Reply# 36   8/3/2012 at 15:35 (4,282 days old) by servisslimline (England, Brighton & Hove)        
quickwash

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quickwash on programme 6 is enabled by using BOTH Half Load and Economy Wash, george sorry to sound so nasty but i suggest you start looking at manuals and asking people before just saying what each bit does, ive attached a link to the 9534 manual below, READ IT! lol

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Post# 614513 , Reply# 37   8/3/2012 at 17:52 (4,282 days old) by boschlover1997 ()        
excuse me.

 yes philip but did i tell people what it did? i said the red programs have something to do with a button. i suggest you read what i say before you start being funny on my restoration thread.

Post# 614514 , Reply# 38   8/3/2012 at 17:57 (4,282 days old) by boschlover1997 ()        
well..

 if you read what i put philip i think youll find that what i said("the ones in red are in connection to one of the option buttons i think? not sure which one though.")
is actually true isnt it? because 6 is red and does have a connection with the buttons. an apology would be nice, you know how much i hate people getting picky and ridiculous about nothing.

Post# 614522 , Reply# 39   8/3/2012 at 18:36 (4,282 days old) by hotpointfan95 ()        
My 2 pennies worth...

 I'm not sure about the option buttons really. But as far as i'm aware they have nothing to do with the colours corresponding on the programme díal. I actually read that If you press both Half load and Economy in it will do a very Quick wash. About 10 tumbles and then advance onto cooldown in which it will then do 2 2 RINSES. Not 3 as some people have been suggesting lol. As far ás I'm aware the 9534 NEVER had the later drum/bowl on. These are replacements. Anyone suggesting they are original obviously don't know the facts. Trust me, I know!!

George if you want to find out more info then read the manual and more discussíons on here. Plenty have left threads on 9534.


Daniel.

Post# 614614 , Reply# 40   8/4/2012 at 10:47 (4,282 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        
Half Load & Eco Wash

 I was going to say hotpointfan95 using Half Load & Eco wash have a very quick wash - however, not pressing half load, you will get deeper water level, and still a very quick wash because eco wash is still selected. So Phill is technically right as that's what the manual says, however he is also wrong, as quick wash also activates with only eco wash - eco wash is no Heat, so the heat stage is voided, this means it is a quickwash, as there is only 1 stage of wash after heating, well not heating, just one stage of wash.
Technically there are 3 rinses, because the stage after the Cooldown, although very quick is a rinse i personally think, otherwise it would still be filling & draining. (also read point 4 on page 13 of Phill's Instructions)

Post# 614684 , Reply# 41   8/4/2012 at 16:12 (4,281 days old) by hotpointfan95 ()        
Matt...

 On the 95's when the machine clicks to do the cooldown it will drain/fill for a while bringing the temp down from 50/60c (depending on what version 95 you have) and once it's reached a cooler temputure it will advance again and fill higher to finish the cooldown phase. THEN it goes onto 2 rinses!!

Also with the Quick Wash, it clearly states that Half Load and Economy have to be pressed in for the Quick Wash. This is because the Quick Wash is only designed for a smaller load.

Regarding the drum/door bowl, they ARE NOT original. The later versions with the recessed door had them.

Daniel.

Post# 614703 , Reply# 42   8/4/2012 at 17:16 (4,281 days old) by Hoover1100 (U.K.)        
Quick Wash and Drum

 We need to bear in mind that the "Quick Wash" (which first appeared on the 9534 range) was not a programme so to speak.

It is merely no.6 with economy wash selected, if the incoming water already fills at 40c (as ours does when we have it plumbed in) the machine won't heat on 6 (or 5) anyway, so quick wash will be the same as 6, with or without economy pressed. Half load reduces the water level, but does not affect the length of the programme (which runs at about 30mins), so it is possible to use this programme with or without half load without affecting the wash time.

Our 9530 and the 9517 we have now sold do 3 rinses on all synthetics programmes regardless of whether half load is pressed, the machine fills and drains several times for the cool down, then advances straight into the first rinse, before draining completely and carrying out 2 further rinses. This occurs at any temperature on these programmes.

As Darren (aitcho86) noted above, he grew up with a 9534 from new which had this drum and door glass originally, so these machines most definitely were sold with this drum and glass in the later production run. Although it is possible that in this machine these have been replaced, it is highly likely they are original to this machine.

Matt

Post# 614705 , Reply# 43   8/4/2012 at 17:46 (4,281 days old) by boschlover1997 ()        

cheers for the info matt.
im currently carrying out yet another repair to the hotpoint as the armature in the motor has worn out causing it it to lose most of its power when spinning, usually meaning the 1000rpm spin cycle is carried out at slow bosch speed.

george

Post# 770238 , Reply# 44   7/12/2014 at 13:41 (3,574 days old) by gletts (Crawley)        

Nice example! We had one of these - bought new in 1987 from Rumbellows, just before the "hurricane". I came across a photo of it in our kitchen recently from about 1988.

It was pretty unreliable - the pressure tube to detect the water level was forever getting blocked so the machine would fill until water poured out the soap dispenser drawer. Then when it drained, it took so long for the water to drain that it would start spinning with the drum still 1/3 full. Was it just our machine that did that or was it a design fault?! I can remember it being repaired (cleaned out) about 3-4 times a year.

An unbalanced spin would make the machine lunge forward, and it would regularly suds lock especially with towels in.

After about 7-8 years my mum got fed up with it keep overflowing, so it was replaced with a Zanussi, and then 2 weeks later another Zanussi, and then 2 weeks later a Siemens after both Zanussis failed with the same fault!


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