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Post# 615588 , Reply# 1   8/8/2012 at 10:09 (4,276 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)   |   | |
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here's my machine |
Post# 615665 , Reply# 4   8/8/2012 at 15:42 (4,276 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)   |   | |
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There is no point in making a product, and trying to sell it to shops, when it is very unlikely to sell anyway. |
Post# 615676 , Reply# 5   8/8/2012 at 16:11 (4,276 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)   |   | |
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i quite like mine, one thing that H-axis top loaders have which is clever is the lack of a door seal, so mould cant build up (i leave my lid open on it) US top loaders are really harsh on your washing and the also have a G energy rating |
Post# 615762 , Reply# 8   8/9/2012 at 07:07 (4,275 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)   |   | |
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@mikelondon, my whirlpool has 2 sets of bearings :) and i also have a TL dryer, unfortunantly it needs to be fixed :( |
Post# 615765 , Reply# 9   8/9/2012 at 07:44 (4,275 days old) by dj-gabriele ()   |   | |
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Yeah, all the top loading washers have the drum connected on both sides with bearings |
Post# 615782 , Reply# 10   8/9/2012 at 08:58 (4,275 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy)   |   | |
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Post# 615785 , Reply# 11   8/9/2012 at 09:22 (4,275 days old) by dj-gabriele ()   |   | |
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Really? They must have both on the same side to save space like in slim front loaders then! You never stop learning :) |
Post# 615802 , Reply# 12   8/9/2012 at 10:34 (4,275 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Miele:
Actually Miele didn't do that because of the space. Miele frontloaders are 45cm wide while a lot of other toploaders are only 40cm. The reason Miele did this because they thought it was a better to have bearings on one side because bearings on two sides give double the risk of bearing problems. Besides that, if one of the bearings goes bad and the drum might get damaged because it is still attached on the other side too. BTW, the Miele bearings are similar to car bearings, sort of overkill so you don't need more than one. Dryers: Several brands make 45cm wide dryers, but AFAIK there is no 40cm wide dryer. IIRC Candy never made a dryer with a width of 40cm, but I could be wrong there. At the moment they don't sell any topload dryers at all anymore. I guess they leave that to the French. Porthole: In the past the drum openings of H-axis toploaders was indeed rather small. Newer models give a better access to the drum. My mother has a rather new Zanker (Electrolux) that has a much bigger opening than for instance my older Philips toploader. Miele has the best solution in this matter I guess. Not only a good opening, but also very easy access with the slanted front. Sort of a mix between a frontloader and a toploader. Window: Many French toploaders had windows. While it is true you couldn't see the laundry, there was the possibility to keep an eye on the amount of suds. Popularity: I guess the Ha-xis toploader is more popular in France than in any other country. They always did quite well overthere. I remember an old Thomson-Brandt brochure that showed more toploaders than frontloaders. If you like toploaders you must look at the website of one of our French members. He has quite a collection and also on his website there are weekly pictures. Here is the link. Look at "L'image de la semaine"! Wonderful ads and pictures! CLICK HERE TO GO TO foraloysius's LINK |
Post# 615874 , Reply# 14   8/9/2012 at 17:27 (4,275 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Tend to fit many small French kitchens/laundry areas better than front loaders. For about the same capacity you can have a washing machine say in or near the kitchen rather than the bathroom because one only really needs a small narrow space.
Commercial laundries have long used top or side loading H-axis washing machines indeed once you reach capacity >200lbs that is pretty much what you will find as such machines are easier to load and unload . Laundries and others who process hospital linens can also have these machines built into a wall where one side is "clean" and the other "dirty" to prevent cross contamination of freshly laundered linen. The one disadvantage of H-axis top loaders is once you start going above say 15lbs capacity the tub pretty much starts becoming longer versus deeper/wider. However at some point you reach the limit as to what would fit in the standard washing machine cabinet. Whirlpool has held the patents to an top loading H-axis washer (much like the Staber) for years now but has never moved on production. IIRC it did have a standard sized American cabinet for top loading washer, but not sure of the capacity. Personally think a large capacity top loading H-axis washing machine along the the new top loading dryers some are offering would be great for certain persons. The disabled and even some elderly come to mind. |
Post# 954547 , Reply# 16   8/26/2017 at 06:14 (2,432 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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I'd agree on the Lindo. I hate the dispensers in the top of the lid, and these E-Lux machines have a tray like setup. They take quite a time, but have a good time saver option. |
Post# 954553 , Reply# 17   8/26/2017 at 06:53 (2,432 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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The Zanussi Lindo is a good choice IMHO. The Electrolux and the AEG models are similar, but with more options.
Nowadays a lot of models are based on the Indesit. Whirlpool, Hotpoint, Bosch, Siemens etc. I think it may be sold under a few French labels too. I don't know much about the Candy related models. The best one would be the Miele TL models, but they come with a high price, not sure if they would be worth the money. A classic Philips TL would be awesome, but they are becoming harder to find now. The later models have a different spin sequence, they don't ramp up while the water is being pumped out, they stay at a certain rpm for a very long time and then ramp up. |
Post# 954561 , Reply# 18   8/26/2017 at 07:52 (2,432 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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How do those work? Do they rely on some kind of water hose in the hinge area? Can they take powder? (I've never used a top-loader of this type). |
Post# 954564 , Reply# 19   8/26/2017 at 08:08 (2,432 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Yes, the dispenser on the bottom of the lid could hold powder. My mother had a Zanker, also an Electrolux product. Here's a picture that shows there is a hole in the rim, the spouts inject water into the dispenser. The dispenser is removable.
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Post# 954566 , Reply# 20   8/26/2017 at 08:12 (2,432 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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The newer ones have a dispenser over the drum. Easier to remove and to clean. There is a switch for powder vs liquid detergent.
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Post# 954580 , Reply# 21   8/26/2017 at 09:49 (2,432 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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That cleared that up. Cheers again! |
Post# 954654 , Reply# 23   8/26/2017 at 16:48 (2,432 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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There used to be some toploaders available in the UK, Zanussi used to have one too on their website. Apparently toploaders don't sell on your side of the Channel. Perhaps a dealer can order one?
In France however a lot of people prefer them, so there is more choice there. Boulanger has a wide choice of toploaders: www.boulanger.com/c/lave-... I have read many complaints too about the leaking detergent dispensers on the lid. Quite a few Dutch reviewers complained about it. I guess Electrolux's change to the new dispenser was for a good reason. |
Post# 954682 , Reply# 24   8/26/2017 at 18:35 (2,432 days old) by Hoovermad (England)   |   | |
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There was a Philips Series 90 Slimstar in white on eBay last week. Was in good working order and looked in quite good shape. Not sure if it still about. . . . |
Post# 954777 , Reply# 25   8/27/2017 at 08:41 (2,431 days old) by MrAlex (London, UK)   |   | |
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