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Has the Drum sunk?
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Post# 619268   8/22/2012 at 18:14 (4,256 days old) by ariston4life ((Dublin) Ireland)        

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hi all, is it my imagination or does it seem like the drum in our Hotpoint WML540 has sunk slightly, i dont remember it being dipped as much as it looks now, please see the two photos below and tell me what you guys think also i think the motor bearings and/or armature is/are beinging to fail :(






Post# 619269 , Reply# 1   8/22/2012 at 18:16 (4,256 days old) by ariston4life ((Dublin) Ireland)        

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it definatly looks to me that the drum has dropped a little if it has would it be worth fixing considering the motor is on the way out also or just buy a new machine, also if the drum has indeed sunk will it sink more and become potentially dangerous to the machine/surroundings?

cheers
luke.


Post# 619448 , Reply# 2   8/23/2012 at 09:11 (4,256 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        

All machines drum sink over time.
The machine doesn't look like it has sunk to much, though it is caused from overloading.
It would probably be worth leaving the machine going until it actually breaks. You could have another 1 - 2 years, maybe longer out of it, yet you could have about 2 days, it really depends.
Don't replace until it actually breaks though, I mean If it dropp's more, what's the worst that could happen, the glass smashes - (then you can get compensation).
Its nothing to worry about.


Post# 619498 , Reply# 3   8/23/2012 at 13:36 (4,255 days old) by ariston4life ((Dublin) Ireland)        

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all i know is ive never seen a drum sink on a washing machine at least not one thats not even two years old yet!!! id rather buy a new machine than only get 1 more year out of it cos were a big family and have a lot of washing it dosnt get overloaded but it is used a lot nearly 3 times a day

Post# 619771 , Reply# 4   8/24/2012 at 13:06 (4,255 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        

Well there's your answer! 3 times per day every day of the year, OMG, not even a Miele is designed to handle that. No wonder the Hotpoint is struggling with a dropped drum and motor failure.
Until it develops any major fault, then I suggest you leave it, and continue to use it. It is a waste of money to go buy a new machine when the machine still works just dropped, and not forgetting ruining the environment.


Post# 619784 , Reply# 5   8/24/2012 at 13:30 (4,254 days old) by ariston4life ((Dublin) Ireland)        

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its been on twice today once with a heavy load of towels and it is still working fine but the noise of the motor is begining to get annoying. im sure a miele would cope better with our washing requirments but i would never spend that rediculous amount of money on a washing machine, when it is time for it to be replaced il get the successsor to the model we have either that or a samsung ecobubble.

Post# 619788 , Reply# 6   8/24/2012 at 13:55 (4,254 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

Please leave Korean machines in Korea ;)
Samsung are terrible and have very low reliability, plus spares horrendously expensive!


Post# 619808 , Reply# 7   8/24/2012 at 15:16 (4,254 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

@glenfieldmathk1, i dissagree with your comment, our miele (and most of my machines) have/are on for more than 3 washes and ive experienced no trouble, and the miele is showing no signs of wear from it (nor has my whirlpool or candy)


Post# 619959 , Reply# 8   8/25/2012 at 02:39 (4,254 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)        
but i would never spend that rediculous amount of money on a

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I beg to differ....
My W5740 cost me £850 with a 10 year warranty..
£85 per year guaranteed no repair bills and possibly another 5-10 years after that...
Suddenly dosen't seem expensive does it?
Seamus


Post# 619960 , Reply# 9   8/25/2012 at 02:40 (4,254 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)        
More than 3 washes a day??

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How many people is that for!!!

Post# 619962 , Reply# 10   8/25/2012 at 03:30 (4,254 days old) by haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy)        
I beg not to differ...

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SeamusUK... that's not always the case. Sometimes you might be lucky enough to go for a cheap/popular brand and still get the benefits you mentioned above... my Hoover is the living example!

It had above average use throughout its life and I've enjoyed 8 years repair bills free witn no annual cover/fees (although Hoover kept pestering me for a while). All it cost me was 300 quid including delivery (well... that was perhaps a currys' special offer at the time) and it only had 1 year labour and 5 years parts guarantee which was never needed anyway.

The moral... If I look at your situation and evaluate my experience... £850.00 does suddenly seem expensive to me.


Post# 619989 , Reply# 11   8/25/2012 at 07:34 (4,254 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        
@seamus

there are 4 people in the house, and also my brother has just come back from his army camp with lots of washing so its on everyday more than 3 times a day, normaly its on for 4 times when hes at his camp.
Tom


Post# 619994 , Reply# 12   8/25/2012 at 07:57 (4,254 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

Still I can't believe how a family of 4 can generate from 15 to 24 kg of laundry per day!

Post# 619999 , Reply# 13   8/25/2012 at 09:01 (4,254 days old) by haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy)        
@ dj-gabriele (...a family of 4 can generate from 15 to 24 k

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It's not necessarily that! There are only 2 of us in my house and our washer is on everyday plus 4/5 times during the weekend. Do not assume that everytime the washer is started is going at its full capacity... that's why in the last decade or so machines have been equipped with fuzzy logic system. I know that one's saving even more by filling the washer to capacity but this is not always possible depending on someone's way of life and priorities.

Still, 'ariston4life', I feel that the sinking drum is not a serious enough issue for dismissing this machine... unless it's causing some other problems indirectly, like, the machine bangs or thumps cos' the shock absorbers are exhausted. Besides, this machine is so new!


Post# 620892 , Reply# 14   8/28/2012 at 17:28 (4,250 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Yes a family of 4 could even generate 14-to 24kg per day,....it depends from family to family, life, job etc...one just can't judge basing on his own life, everyone's life is different...

Normal sunk from the time looks to me, if there is a sunk is a very little one I'd say.....actually older models of Candy washers' drums were way more "sunk" just by going out the factory and pulling out transport bolts the drum would have sink way mooooore....
Know this by installing some candys in my town, installing machines is a "job" I used to do when I was a kid so 12 to 14 years old to get some tips, as for helper and lackeys for old ladies in the shopping, and also for all the typical chores as window cleaning etc and also jobs as painting, lawn grass cut etc.....
Aunt bought an Hotpoint too for sea house and it have the drum got that "sunk" just by using 3 months a year and it is one year old with this summer....she runs 4-5 washing a day, she has to "wash" in a 5 kg machine 10-12 beach towels a day so 5-6 towels from the morning beach time and same amount for the evening beach time, daily clothes change beach clothes for 5, and daily change for the 3 older cousins's "night-life" clothes, they goes to disco and get clothes sweated,once every 2 days change for the "less-eventful/static night-life's" clothes for the left family members sometimes even once a day for them as well, bed sheets once a week divided in 2 days of the week, and all every other things....all for a family of 5.






This post was last edited 08/28/2012 at 18:08
Post# 620988 , Reply# 15   8/29/2012 at 03:41 (4,250 days old) by fido ()        

Quote dj-gabriele:
"Still I can't believe how a family of 4 can generate from 15 to 24 kg of laundry per day!"

Having regularly repaired machines belonging to families like that I can believe it but I don't believe it is necessary. I had a 19 year old girl staying with me for a while and she would change her clothes about 3 times a day and not expect to put anything back on until it had been washed. This is sheer profligacy in my opinion. We are all being urged to conserve the planets depleted resources but such a lot of people just carry on regardless. I suppose it must be the "I'm alright Jack" mentality. As long as things carry on functioning while they are alive the future generations can sort out the mess they make of the planet. Sorry for the rant but to my mind, conserving the planets resources is the most important issue for humanity at present.


Post# 621126 , Reply# 16   8/29/2012 at 16:59 (4,249 days old) by mrx ()        
Re: Samsung

Samsung's actually doing a 5 year parts guarantee for the mechanical parts and 10 years on the electronics for their machines.

Also, having talked to some independent retailers they're actually getting really good feedback on the Samsung machines and they're not hearing of any failures or problems.

I wouldn't write-off some Samsung, LG or Panasonic. They're reputable manufacturers and produce good products.

What worries me is that some of the formerly high-end European brands are not what the used to be and if they continue to sell rubbish onto the market, they'll end up like their US counterparts i.e. wiped out by Samsung, LG and others.

It's a bit like the way the US car industry went. You have to stay on the ball when it comes to quality and innovation.



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