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Thread Number: 42200
German washing machines - Front Fill System |
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| Post# 621133 8/29/2012 at 17:28 (4,249 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK) | ||
I've noticed through watching videos on you tube, that quite alot of German Washing Machines especially from the 1990's and 2000's have the front fill system, which is a fill flume which sprays down the glass, as the machine is filling, and slowing down from the interim spins.
I've seen it on Bosch and Siemens (3D Aquaspa), Miele and Bauknecht machines, even seen it on British Machines such as the 1993-1997 Hoover Newwave, Softwave and Classica Machines. I've always thought this was an excellent idea for wetting the laundry and really fun to watch. I don't understand why washing manufacturers today don't use this still in their machines, as it would soak the laundry quicker, prevent pilling on fabrics. and also help with more efficient rinsing. | ||
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Post# 621285 , Reply# 3 8/30/2012 at 08:03 (4,248 days old) by mrboilwash  (Munich,Germany) |
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I have seen a friend`s Bauknecht (Whirlpool) spray the detergent over the load from a nozle in the door boot. It really left a huge mess of residue on the glass.
My Mother`s Bosch only uses a powerful spray with clean water to top up the water level and for the rinse. No problems with powder residue on the glass there. My Miele does not spray the load at all but the door boot and the glass get sprayed with clean water for a few seconds before the detergent is flushed and for the rinses. | ||
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Post# 621290 , Reply# 4 8/30/2012 at 08:40 (4,248 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany) |
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I`m not sure that there is any advantage in wettig the load faster, but I like the idea of fresh water beeing used much better than a recirculating pump. Just the though of stale water that has been sitting for a week or maybe even longer in the sump to be dumped onto the next load makes me shudder.
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Post# 621373 , Reply# 5 8/30/2012 at 16:49 (4,248 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Miele Has Their "Ball and Valve" System
Which in theory should prevent backflow from the sump to the next cycles,IIRC.
As for fast wetting down of laundry never understood why more domestic machines do not fill the way commercial ones do; tumbling one way whilst water is entering the tubs. Seems a much better way than a static fill until a certain level is reached. | ||
| Post# 621476 , Reply# 6 8/31/2012 at 02:24 (4,247 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
Sump volume is nearly irrelevant compared to fill volume. Sump mixing is negligible.
Static fill on highly absorbent fabric (towels) causes inadequate fill level once the entire load is wet. At extremes, tumble will cancel and revert to fill when the fabric absorbs water. Observed on my FL (Electrowhitefrigilux). "Extended wash" starts with fill and tumbling so I always use it. It's harder but still possible to apply this to rinses. Mine is a clockwork timer, which can be manipulated more than a digital cycle. IMO all FL fills should be accompanied by tumble and include 1qt sump purges. If *I* designed a FL, you'd love it. But "corporate" and squeaky conservationists would hate it and that plus my age and being American is why I can't get a job. | ||
| Post# 621578 , Reply# 7 8/31/2012 at 12:44 (4,247 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK) | ||
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Front Fill Design Our Flexi Dose Zanussi Currys exclusive machine which we purchased earlier this year has a front fill design. I think Zanussi call it 'Aquafall'. Vid link below. CLICK HERE TO GO TO aeg03's LINK | ||
| Post# 621586 , Reply# 8 8/31/2012 at 14:00 (4,247 days old) by jetsystem1200 () | ||
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My Zanussi Jetsystem pumps out right before the wash starts so no water is left in the sump. | ||
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