Thread Number: 42249
Kenmore agitator fins breaking |
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Post# 621750 , Reply# 1   9/1/2012 at 11:33 (4,226 days old) by nashvegas ()   |   | |
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Here's a picture of the fins as they look after breaking off. |
Post# 621752 , Reply# 2   9/1/2012 at 12:01 (4,226 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 621754 , Reply# 3   9/1/2012 at 12:18 (4,226 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Yes it might be being overloaded or their may be other mechanical problems with the machine. This is a Frigidaire built machine with an indexing tub, but even so we have not seen this type of problem often. I would replace the agitator and then make a habit of watching the washer wash and make sure that it is working properly and that all the clothing is moving around the wash basket easily. |
Post# 621772 , Reply# 5   9/1/2012 at 13:02 (4,226 days old) by Maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)   |   | |
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your only option? If it is, I would consider getting separate units with a front loading washer. Lawrence/Maytagbear |
Post# 621792 , Reply# 6   9/1/2012 at 13:55 (4,226 days old) by magic_clean (Florida)   |   | |
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the machine spinning and agitating at the same time? |
Post# 621813 , Reply# 8   9/1/2012 at 14:45 (4,226 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Perhaps to confirm the loading situation you could post some pics of what you run as both a full load and a half load. I've noticed there's a wide variation in people's perception of what is a full load, underload, and overload. Shoes? Do you occasionally wash shoes, which can get jammed between the fins and basket? |
Post# 621823 , Reply# 9   9/1/2012 at 15:28 (4,226 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 621898 , Reply# 11   9/1/2012 at 21:13 (4,226 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)   |   | |
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Sounds to me like there is mechanical problem in the drivetrain. I know next to nothing about the guts of these particular machines but the sounds you describe are NOT normal for ANY machine. In my opinion it's a wonder that the motor hasn't burned out or that whatever sort of gearing there is hasn't been stripped completely down by now!
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Post# 621918 , Reply# 12   9/1/2012 at 22:08 (4,226 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 621920 , Reply# 13   9/1/2012 at 22:14 (4,226 days old) by camMURRAY22 (Savannah,Georgia)   |   | |
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You need to trade the unit in for an older Frigidaire laundry center (WCI). The Older Frigidaire stacked unit would be better for you. Hope this helps. Chris |
Post# 621940 , Reply# 14   9/2/2012 at 01:40 (4,226 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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Post# 622029 , Reply# 17   9/2/2012 at 10:50 (4,225 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 622032 , Reply# 18   9/2/2012 at 11:03 (4,225 days old) by nashvegas ()   |   | |
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Hey, Thor, do you think that means we shouldn't bother with another agitator? IF that was the problem, is it a repair or a replace situation? |
Post# 622034 , Reply# 19   9/2/2012 at 11:12 (4,225 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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The straight vain agitator is not going to be the right type for this model because the shaft for either agitator is different.The step down models have the straight vain agitator the upgrade model has the "Crewel action".If stacking them is necessary, I'd replace them with a front load set. I found the Sears outlet store here in Maryland has the Frigidaire Affinity sets going for under $1000
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Post# 622054 , Reply# 20   9/2/2012 at 13:30 (4,225 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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New transmission and another new agitator sounds like the remedy. You should have a conversation with Sears. Since you've had four warranty repairs (this makes five) on the same unresolved problem, they will likely allow you to return the machine for credit so you can select something else. I would have that sitting on their dock after repair number two, your patience is nearly heroic!
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Post# 622505 , Reply# 21   9/4/2012 at 06:42 (4,224 days old) by cuffs054 (MONTICELLO, GA)   |   | |
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I've got the same unit and beat mine up pretty good and never have had that problem. This is the second unit I've had in two houses and both have run years with nothing like that. |
Post# 622563 , Reply# 22   9/4/2012 at 15:10 (4,223 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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my MIL has this same exact unit...no issues so far, bought in 2002......
but keep in mind, there may be a tranny issue......the agitator does not spin at the same speed as the tub during spin, and locked together like many others such as Speed Queen and GE filterflos, and something may be getting caught.... for the most part, this is not a big issue that affects performance.....it should work fine with this indifference |
Post# 622579 , Reply# 23   9/4/2012 at 16:16 (4,223 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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I agree with Martin - sounds like you have a transmission issue, which is causing the agitator's fins to contact clothes when there is too much drag, such as in an empty tub or during spin. I can't imagine the noise that you're hearing when this happens.
Here's what I'd do -- since warranty is out, you may have an uphill battle on your hands, so prepare everything ahead of time: 1) First, get all your warranty receipt paperwork out, and organize it first to most recent. Make copies to give away and keep your originals. 2) Second, get the paperwork from the repairs or parts you bought yourself. 3) Third, and perhaps most importantly, take a video of the washer operating, especially during the time when you would normally hear the breaking fins. If you need to have the lid-switch 'rigged' so this can be done with the lid up, use a popsicle stick, a slim toothbrush handle, a screwdriver, or whatever you can find to activate the lid switch and keep it activated so you can video your machine. 4) Fourth - show us the video - you may have to post it on youtube, so people who know this machine well will see the problem. I am nearly certain someone will recognize the issue easily. 5) Last - prepare your facts, and write it all down and send Sears a registered letter stating that you had the machine repaired under warranty x number of times for the same highly unusual problem, that it was never fixed, and that it persists today. Show them your paperwork that you organized above, and show them the video, then tell them what you want. Make sure you know what you want before you start - either a satisfactory repair with an extended warranty in case the problem recurs, OR a replacement. Don't start a potential battle with Sears until you know what you want from the outcome. If that fails to get you any results, 'suggest' to them that you're going to post the video on Youtube in regard to how Sears took your money, sold you an unsatisfactory machine that was supposedly operational from their outlet, and that they refuse to stand by it after it obviously malfunctions continually. See what happens... I have a feeling that calm heads will prevail here. Gordon |