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has any members seen the new whirlpool duet steam washer dryer set
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Post# 622950   9/6/2012 at 08:33 (4,222 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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Hello to all aw members as any members seen the new whirlpool duet steam washer dryer set i had a quick glimpese at the model and have seen with the controls on that the controls are blue and the same go for the screen and also what i have notice is that the color of the model on display was kind of a grey turqoise color this is how the washer looks like and my question is is this model better than the 2004 duet washer that i have now because eventualy since i am the one doing laundry for me and my mom we went to have a stack set that means the dryer on top of the washer here are the specs of the washer?

thank you for any answers in advance

Capacity (cu. ft.) 5.0
Colour
Cabinet Metallic Silver
Controls
Control type Electronic
Design
Delay start Yes
Control Panel Material Metal
Number of wash cycles 10
Cabinet/Top Finish Painted Steel
Control Panel Metallic Silver
End-of-cycle indicator On/Off Switch
Energuide Rating (kWh/Year) 123
Maximum Delay Time (hr.) 12
Misc. Feature(s) Internal Water Heater
Number of spin speeds 5 Selections
Number of temperature levels 5+Automatic Temp. Control
Operating Indicator Lights Yes
Outer Tub Material Polypropylene
Safety Door/Lid Lock Yes
Wash Basket Material Stainless Steel
Washer Drive System Direct Gear Drive
Design Features
Product weight (lb.) 235.0
Dimensions
Product depth (in.) 31.12
Product height (in.) 38.5
Product width (in.) 27.0
Dispensers
Bleach dispenser Auto Timed Release
Detergent dispenser Yes-Self Clean
Fabric softener dispenser Electronically Timed Release
Other features
ENERGY STARŪ Qualified Yes
Sound features
Sound reduction system Better
Washer features
Auto Temperature Control Yes
Extra Rinse Option Manual
Filter Self Clean
Heavy Duty/Extended Time Cycle Yes
Maximum Water Usage (Imp. gal.) 28
Minimum Water Usage (Imp. gal.) 15
Misc. Feature(s) Oxi Dispense Option
Motor Speed (hp) 1/2 Hp(Variable Speed)
Other Cycle(s) Deep Clean Option
Other Fabric Care Cycle(s) Delicate/Hand Wash
Specialty Cycles Soak & Quick/Short Wash
Standard Cycle(s) Normal & Permanent Press
Wash Options Rev.Tumble Action/Vanes&Gates
Water Level Options Automatic Adjust To Load
Warranty Information
All - Labour 1 year
All - Parts 1 year
Drive System/Transmission - Labour 1 year
Drive System/Transmission - Parts 1 year
Motor - Labour 1 year
Motor - Parts 1 year
Outertub - Labour 1 year
Outertub - Parts 1 year
Wash Basket - Labour 1 year
Wash Basket - Parts 1 year

ps the washer might be white when it will be bought





Post# 624533 , Reply# 1   9/12/2012 at 19:36 (4,215 days old) by squeenjj ()        
Hated them

Yes-- I had a set that I bought last year along with the Pedestals. See Picture below. I hated the washer-- I kept it a year and a few months so I would feel like I got some use out of it. You can't get stuff really clean with a thimble of water. If you have anything really dirty, you have to pretreat and wait 1 1/2 hours for the thing to finish-- and God forbid you get too much soap in there. In all fairness, it seemed to get clothes clean, but they were not nearly as fresh smelling as clothes washed in a "Waterhog" top loader. Towels will stink if you don't use bleach. when you use the steam cycle, it takes over 2 hours to do a load. The final straw was anything with grease on it would not come clean without a lot of work, or using steam and waiting 2 hours for a load to finish.

The steam feature on the dryer is nice, but I rarely used it. Its not worth $1100 for a dryer to match the washer. The dryer's cool down did not seem to work well. Clothes came out very warm. My new old school whirlpool dryer does a much better cool down.


Post# 624536 , Reply# 2   9/12/2012 at 19:45 (4,215 days old) by squeenjj ()        
another comment

I had a Whirlpool Duet Front Loader in 2004--- you could actually see water in the bottom of the tub when it was washing-- it came up on the window an inch or so, so you knew there was some water in there. You could never see water in the drum of the newer Duet I bought last year (and sold a month ago. The manufacturers are taking this energy efficiency to the extreme. It won't be long before an appliance will no longer serve its intended purpose. And most of the maufacturers do not care-- profit is there bottom line

Post# 624539 , Reply# 3   9/12/2012 at 19:55 (4,215 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        
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Is there anything new that is worthy of consideration? We just bought a pretty basic older, but pristine like it came off the assembly line, Maytag washer and dryer. I've looked at the Miele, but used prices are dear. What, if any new machines are worthy of consideration? I keep hearing that, for the most part, today's washers and dryers are like this new Duet - paltry cleaners and geared to fail early and not really clean as the older washers. Sorry if this diverts a little from the Duet topic.


Post# 624542 , Reply# 4   9/12/2012 at 20:20 (4,215 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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no need to worry its good to know all info i have a 2004 duet washer as a daily driver but for a good cleaning i have to use the heavy duty cycle wash time 1:10 minutes for good cleaning power

Post# 624543 , Reply# 5   9/12/2012 at 20:20 (4,215 days old) by squeenjj ()        
SPEED QUEEN

The best New Washing Machine you can buy today IMO is the Speed Queen Top Loader washer. They are very basic well made machines. It was the closest washer I could find that was like my 1996 Maytag Dependable Care machine. Speed Queens have an all metal transmission and an outer porcelain over steel enamel tub-- unheard of today. All outer tubs are plastic. If the Maytage set you bought was after 1996 or 1997, it could be a poorly made set. Maytag started to produce crap then and hence their demise. Whirlpool bought them out in 2005, so a Maytag made after 2005 is a Whirlpool with a Maytag badge-- which is a better machine than the stuff made between 1997-2005. I had a "Whirltag" (2007 model) but it was rough on the clothes with a corkscrew agitator (a Direct Drive Whirlpool with a Maytag label).-- not a bad machine really, but I thought it was too rough on clothes. Speed Queens are not cheap-- I paid $650 for mine and only small independent dealers carry them.

Post# 624544 , Reply# 6   9/12/2012 at 20:33 (4,215 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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I"m sorry to beg to differ, but I"m a frfont load fan that understands these machines and understands how to properly use them.  I have the TOL WFW97 washer purchased last December.  I will NEVER use the Normal/Casual cycle, it's the thimble-full of water usage cycle.  I use the Jeans cycle for all my permanent press clothes (it has a wojnderful cool down at the end of the wash cycle) and the Allergan cycle for everything needing hot water.  That's basically it.  Those two cycles use about the most amount of water.  I don't have smelly garments.  I do use the extra rtinse all the time. But I've used the extra rinse for every washer I"ve ever owned.  Have sensitive skin.   I have yet to have to use the clean washer cycle.  My machine doesn't have a musty odor at all.  Neither did my Fridgemore that preceded this WP.  In fact, I htink my whites are cleaner and all kitchen towels have no stains because I use Tide With Bleach and use the stain treat and Allergan or Sanitary temperatures.  I don't care how long it takes.  I just want results and I get them without fail.


Post# 624546 , Reply# 7   9/12/2012 at 20:42 (4,215 days old) by squeenjj ()        

It all comes down to what you like. I really hated the long cycles but I'm glad you are getting great results with your machines. I threw a lot of money down the drain by selling them for less than 1/2 of what I paid, but hopefully the new owners are enjoying them. I used the normal/casual cycle all the time-- I guess I should have read the manual more closely, but its not the first time in my life I missed something important. I should have come here and asked if there was a way for the washer to use more water and I might have kept the machines. I see the day coming when all that will most likely be available is Front Loaders or HE Top Loaders.



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Post# 624572 , Reply# 8   9/12/2012 at 23:01 (4,215 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)        

Got to agree with Bob, I really like my FL machines.  Whites come out very white, kitchen towels are especially clean if I use the steam cycle.  I generally use the orange Sears detergent, 1/2 scoop at most and everything is very clean.  Yes it does take a bit longer, but with a high speed spin I think the total time with drying is about equal.


Post# 624630 , Reply# 9   9/13/2012 at 07:31 (4,215 days old) by brastemp (Brazil)        

I have a pair of Duets and I'm very pleased. From what I understand the dissatisfaction member squeenjj occurs because the frontal system and not because of the washer. Front load require a time ranging between 56 minutes and 1:30 to do a good cleaning, it can be uncomfortable for those accustomed to a standard cycle of 40 minutes from a top load. Using too little water is not a problem as the HE detergent does not let residue.

Post# 624639 , Reply# 10   9/13/2012 at 08:05 (4,215 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
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Wow - I can't believe you never tried any of the other cycles. Normal is the WORST cycle of them all. No wonder you hated the machine!

Post# 624644 , Reply# 11   9/13/2012 at 08:22 (4,215 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Bob - I know it's been a little while since we've talked, but I didn't know you bought a new washer! What else are you hiding? LOL

I'll be curious to see what you think of the non-tilted drum, and those big, sexy clothes spanking drum paddles. :-)

Reading reviews and reliability reports, these new Whirlpools are doing pretty well overall. Sure, the dissatisfied are far more likely to report their troubles online and those reviews stand out like a sore thumb, but there are many many thousands sold that are never reviewed by the owners and are perfectly satisfied.

Whirlpool is in the process of, or has completed, moving all of their North America laundry production to the U.S. That should make a difference when choosing a new laundry product for some, if we don't support our own manufacturing, we won't have it here.


Post# 624650 , Reply# 12   9/13/2012 at 09:58 (4,215 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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"Wow - I can't believe you never tried any of the other cycles. Normal is the WORST cycle of them all. No wonder you hated the machine!"

This is quite common.  Consumers have the attitude - I always used Normal/Regular on my old washer so that should be perfectly fine on the new one, I'm not changing my laundry procedure just because I got a new washer -- nevermind that the new machine is a *completely* different animal, *IT* should behave to fit *MY* habits.


Post# 624654 , Reply# 13   9/13/2012 at 10:21 (4,215 days old) by logixx (Germany)        
These washers seem to get quite positive reviews

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Post# 624656 , Reply# 14   9/13/2012 at 10:25 (4,215 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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By the way, the *new* Duets actually look like this

Post# 624693 , Reply# 15   9/13/2012 at 14:45 (4,214 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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i think its good to know all of this as in the near future i went a stack set that means a fl washer with the dryer stack on the top of the washer

Post# 624704 , Reply# 16   9/13/2012 at 15:23 (4,214 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)        

I am disappointed with the wash temperatures used.  113F for Heavy Duty, White whites 121F, Allergen 130F.  Will 130F even kill dust mites?  Normal 76F?  My current machine won't even allow cold water to be colder than 85F.  I might as well find a stream with big rocks and start beating the clothes against it. Very disappointed and another reason to keep my old machine running as long as it can.

 

One other reason why Miele may have taken  exit from large capacity machines in the USA.  Not worth the trouble to try to deal with this low temp mess.




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Post# 624721 , Reply# 17   9/13/2012 at 17:38 (4,214 days old) by squeenjj ()        

I should have come here and asked you guys about this machine-- but to be truthful, I did hate the long time it took to wash, so that was probably my main reason getting rid of it. I didn't realize some of those cycles used a good bit more water-- I should have read the manual more closely.

Post# 624810 , Reply# 18   9/14/2012 at 04:05 (4,214 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Long Cyles

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It's interesting to note that on my Current Duet from 2005 that the cycles are NOT as long as the new Duets.

Normal/Casual (which uses a decent amount of water by the way) is 40 minutes, or 50 minutes if you choose extra rinse or longer if you choose more soil, but the default is 40.

Heavy duty defaults at 50 minutes, longer if you choose more soil or extra rinse, but the max amount of time is 1:10

Whitest whites defaults at 1:00, MAX amount of time with more soil is 1:10

Sanitary is almost two hours (I think) . I haven't used it in so long. I think the temp gets to 153? Or something close. I know it gets hot! The outside of the washer feels like a dishwasher that's been running an hour or more. I wonder why they would have lessened this?


I can see longer wash times being a pain but the fact that you can wash three loads in the Duet to five loads in a TL washer without overloading, it's really about the same. I'm basing that on my laundry habits and loads from the past with my Whirpool TL washer would take me five loads to do the same as the three loads the Duet does now, typically.


Post# 624814 , Reply# 19   9/14/2012 at 05:27 (4,214 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Mark, your Normal/Casual cycle is far different than the cycle with the same name found on machines today.  Back when your machine was designed, Normal/Casual actually used more water and with medium speed tumbling, was the ideal "Wrinkle Free", "Permanent Press" cycle.  Now, that similar cycle with more water is called Jeans. Marketing "trickory" done to meet the Energy Star usage pattern as most consumers would think like yep, Normal is what I used to use and that's what I will use now.  A friend of mine, that's exactlyh her logic in doing her laundry.   Try to explain to her it uses the least amount of water of any cycle (I observed it when starting the various cycles with an empty tub).  Also, today's Duets will automatically adjust wash time based upon size and type of load it sesnses.  If I wash a huge load of towels it will add 24 minutes.  Whites 32 minutes added.  Most of my loads are quite large so I expect the time to be increased. 


Post# 624848 , Reply# 20   9/14/2012 at 08:12 (4,214 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
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so basically are you saying that your Duet uses as much water as mine, only in the other cycles? So your Jeans cycle would use as much as my normal/casual etc? On any of the cycles on my Duet (other than the clean washer cycle) the water never touches the glass - EVER! Not even on delicate or soak.

Also, on my normal/causal, it does do medium drum rotation but it only fills with more water at the very end, like a minute or so, that's it; it drains from there..To me - that doesn't count, since the main wash is over anyway. But the main fill is the same as heavy duty/whites whites/Sanitary. They all use the same amount of water from what I can tell. I also notice the Sanitary fills at the end of the wash too, like normal casual does.



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