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Post# 623105   9/6/2012 at 22:35 (2,112 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Post# 623107 , Reply# 1   9/6/2012 at 22:39 (2,112 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
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Post# 623108 , Reply# 2   9/6/2012 at 22:40 (2,112 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1917 National

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Post# 623109 , Reply# 3   9/6/2012 at 22:41 (2,112 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1965 GMC

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Post# 623195 , Reply# 4   9/7/2012 at 10:07 (2,112 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1967 Chevrolet

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Post# 623196 , Reply# 5   9/7/2012 at 10:08 (2,112 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1960 Mercury

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Post# 623197 , Reply# 6   9/7/2012 at 10:09 (2,112 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1964 Dodge

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Post# 623198 , Reply# 7   9/7/2012 at 10:10 (2,112 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1966 Ford

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Post# 623846 , Reply# 8   9/10/2012 at 08:01 (2,109 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1964 Lincoln

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Post# 623847 , Reply# 9   9/10/2012 at 08:01 (2,109 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1962 Ford

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Post# 624052 , Reply# 10   9/10/2012 at 21:24 (2,108 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1965 Plymouth

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Post# 624053 , Reply# 11   9/10/2012 at 21:24 (2,108 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1960 Mercury

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Post# 624425 , Reply# 12   9/12/2012 at 11:01 (2,106 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1965 International Harvester

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Post# 624426 , Reply# 13   9/12/2012 at 11:03 (2,106 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1962 American Motors Corporation

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Post# 625363 , Reply# 14   9/16/2012 at 09:27 (2,103 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1967 Plymouth

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Post# 625364 , Reply# 15   9/16/2012 at 09:28 (2,103 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1960 Dodge

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Post# 625365 , Reply# 16   9/16/2012 at 09:29 (2,103 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1962 Ford

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Post# 625416 , Reply# 17   9/16/2012 at 14:03 (2,102 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1947 Jeep

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Post# 625417 , Reply# 18   9/16/2012 at 14:04 (2,102 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1961 International Harvester

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Post# 625418 , Reply# 19   9/16/2012 at 14:05 (2,102 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1927 Hupmobile

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Post# 625422 , Reply# 20   9/16/2012 at 14:15 (2,102 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1951 Kaiser

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Post# 625434 , Reply# 21   9/16/2012 at 14:49 (2,102 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1978 Ford

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When was the last time you saw one? I always thought this ad with the shuttle like ship looked so cool.

 

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Post# 626066 , Reply# 22   9/19/2012 at 06:47 (2,100 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1967 Mercury

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Post# 626067 , Reply# 23   9/19/2012 at 06:47 (2,100 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1928 Chevrolet

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Post# 626068 , Reply# 24   9/19/2012 at 06:48 (2,100 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1962 Pontiac

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Post# 626069 , Reply# 25   9/19/2012 at 06:49 (2,100 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1961 Ford

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Post# 626705 , Reply# 26   9/22/2012 at 01:03 (2,097 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1965 Oldsmobile

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Post# 626706 , Reply# 27   9/22/2012 at 01:04 (2,097 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1927 Hupmobile

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Post# 626707 , Reply# 28   9/22/2012 at 01:05 (2,097 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1950 Chevrolet

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Post# 626708 , Reply# 29   9/22/2012 at 01:05 (2,097 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1957 Brockway

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Post# 626937 , Reply# 30   9/22/2012 at 21:42 (2,096 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1940 Hudson

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Post# 626938 , Reply# 31   9/22/2012 at 21:43 (2,096 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1962 Ford

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Post# 627695 , Reply# 32   9/26/2012 at 13:07 (2,092 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1967 Ford

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Post# 627697 , Reply# 33   9/26/2012 at 13:08 (2,092 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1919 Franklin

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Post# 627698 , Reply# 34   9/26/2012 at 13:11 (2,092 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1962 General Motors Harrison

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Post# 627699 , Reply# 35   9/26/2012 at 13:12 (2,092 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1962 American Motors Corporation

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Post# 628733 , Reply# 36   10/1/2012 at 09:03 (2,088 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1967 Chysler

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Post# 628734 , Reply# 37   10/1/2012 at 09:04 (2,088 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1969 Chevrolet

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Post# 628735 , Reply# 38   10/1/2012 at 09:04 (2,088 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1965 Ford

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Post# 628737 , Reply# 39   10/1/2012 at 09:05 (2,088 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1937 Graham

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Post# 628738 , Reply# 40   10/1/2012 at 09:06 (2,088 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1962 Buick

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Post# 629893 , Reply# 41   10/6/2012 at 20:41 (2,082 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1965 Buick

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Post# 629894 , Reply# 42   10/6/2012 at 20:42 (2,082 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1928 Franklin

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Post# 629895 , Reply# 43   10/6/2012 at 20:43 (2,082 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1962 Cadillac

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Post# 630565 , Reply# 44   10/9/2012 at 23:23 (2,079 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1953 Mercury

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Post# 630567 , Reply# 45   10/9/2012 at 23:25 (2,079 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1929 Essex

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Post# 630568 , Reply# 46   10/9/2012 at 23:26 (2,079 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1962 Mercury

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Post# 633135 , Reply# 47   10/20/2012 at 22:35 (2,068 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1959 Buick

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Post# 633136 , Reply# 48   10/20/2012 at 22:36 (2,068 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1920 Gardner

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Post# 633138 , Reply# 49   10/20/2012 at 22:36 (2,068 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1954 Studebaker

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Post# 634283 , Reply# 50   10/25/2012 at 17:22 (2,063 days old) by Davey7 (Chicago)        

I love how the Olds 98 ad has the Formica dots in the graphic! And is that Kay "Thank Pink Eloise" Thompson driving that '53 Mercury? She was a big car nut & self promoter, so it's possible - though she drove a Jaguar and had an Isetta in the Plaza Hotel. And boy does the Chrysler Newport guy have great legs!

Post# 634326 , Reply# 51   10/25/2012 at 22:40 (2,063 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
"And boy does the Chrysler Newport guy have great legs!&

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Yep, that's what I call a pair of tree trunks...Tongue out


Post# 634328 , Reply# 52   10/25/2012 at 22:44 (2,063 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1962 Plymouth

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Post# 634329 , Reply# 53   10/25/2012 at 22:46 (2,063 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1949 Studebaker

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Post# 634330 , Reply# 54   10/25/2012 at 22:46 (2,063 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1929 Franklin

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Post# 634332 , Reply# 55   10/25/2012 at 22:48 (2,063 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1959 De Soto

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Post# 634529 , Reply# 56   10/26/2012 at 15:36 (2,062 days old) by Davey7 (Chicago)        

I've got a model of that Plymouth Convertible somewhere in my old boxes of car models.

Post# 634594 , Reply# 57   10/26/2012 at 22:22 (2,062 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
I bet it's JO-HAN

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I have one too!


Post# 635609 , Reply# 58   11/1/2012 at 01:03 (2,057 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1966 AMC Ambassador

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Post# 635610 , Reply# 59   11/1/2012 at 01:04 (2,057 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1953 Saginaw

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Post# 635611 , Reply# 60   11/1/2012 at 01:05 (2,057 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1919 Franklin

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Post# 635612 , Reply# 61   11/1/2012 at 01:06 (2,057 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1960 Mercury

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Post# 635613 , Reply# 62   11/1/2012 at 01:09 (2,057 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1950 Chrysler De Soto

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Post# 635687 , Reply# 63   11/1/2012 at 11:39 (2,056 days old) by dirtybuck (Springfield, MO)        
Saginaw Ad

Is that a Pontiac or Olds?

Post# 635715 , Reply# 64   11/1/2012 at 13:13 (2,056 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)        
Is that a Pontiac or Olds?

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It is a 1953 Pontiac Chieftain Catalina....PAT COFFEY


Post# 636003 , Reply# 65   11/2/2012 at 19:27 (2,055 days old) by whirlaway (hampton va)        
Desoto

Thats a 49 Desoto,first of the new body style after the war.

Post# 636022 , Reply# 66   11/2/2012 at 20:51 (2,055 days old) by Iowegian ()        

Wow, what a collection of hilarious claims! "What would it take to put you in this car today?"

Back in the 1970s, Ford had some TV ads where a diamond cutter rode around the streets of NYC in the back of a Lincoln Continental planning to cleave a valuable raw diamond. Of course, he was successful.

But Saturday Night Live did a parody of that ad campaign that involved a Rabbi doing a bris - I think they had Garrett Morris playing the Rabbi. Good stuff!


Post# 636023 , Reply# 67   11/2/2012 at 20:52 (2,055 days old) by dirtybuck (Springfield, MO)        
Which One Looks "Meaner"?

1959 Buick

Post# 636025 , Reply# 68   11/2/2012 at 20:53 (2,055 days old) by dirtybuck (Springfield, MO)        

1959 Dodge (I like the cute caption in this pic. ;))

Post# 636061 , Reply# 69   11/3/2012 at 00:44 (2,055 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1941 Dodge

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Post# 636062 , Reply# 70   11/3/2012 at 00:50 (2,055 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1929 Durant

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Post# 636226 , Reply# 71   11/3/2012 at 20:44 (2,054 days old) by whirlaway (hampton va)        
Mean Dodge

Your right! It makes Christine look like Sandra Dee,and its a wagon with factory air.

Post# 636235 , Reply# 72   11/3/2012 at 22:29 (2,054 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)        
Thats a 49 Desoto,first of the new body style after the war.

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Actually Bobby that is a second series 1949 DeSoto. Chrysler Corp. did not introduce its new postwar cars until after the start of the 1949 calender year so the first '49 Plymouth Dodge DeSoto and Chrysler models offered at the start of the '49 model year were the old 1948 bodies. Coincidentally Buick did the same thing in 1949 with the Special series, they used the 1948 body for the '49 Specials and then waited until the 1950 restyling to update the Special series, where the 1949 Buick Super and Roadmaster got new postwar styling...PAT COFFEY


Post# 636297 , Reply# 73   11/4/2012 at 06:50 (2,054 days old) by whirlaway (hampton va)        
Hello!

I knew that I have a 48-49 Desoto,Thats why I said it was the first new body change,it came out midway of 49,its still a 49 a 50 is very different in the rear and the grill is different.Thanks Bobby

Post# 636320 , Reply# 74   11/4/2012 at 07:49 (2,054 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)        
I knew that I have a 48-49 Desoto

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They way you worded it Bobby I thought you meant that the car in the ad was the first 1949 DeSoto design. To be honest you are one of very few people I know of who know about the first and second series 1949 Chrysler Corp. cars.. It did not help matters that at the time the first series '49s were built the DMV titled them as 1948 models. From what I heard a lot of first series '49 owners were in for a rude shock when they went to trade/sell their car and found out that their resale value was based on what a '48 model was worth versus what a '49 model was worth. I would love to see any pics of your first series '49 DeSoto too. I always loves the water fall grille they used on that car as well as the harmonica grille they used on the corresponding Chrysler cars. Oh and I have always wanted to ask you....your screen name Whirlaway, that wouldn't be a reference to the  Hydra-Matic transmission used in 1949 Oldsmobiles would it?....PAT COFFEY


Post# 636590 , Reply# 75   11/4/2012 at 19:01 (2,053 days old) by whirlaway (hampton va)        
Whirlaway

Since this is mostly a site on automatic washers,what do they do best,or are supposed too,whirlaway the water.So many cars or should I say so few that came out in late 41 and 42 were just revamped in 46.Chrysler used all of its 42s for 46s until mid 49.The only change they had were going from 16inch wheels to 15 around late 47,Ive had total around 25 to 30 Chryslers and Desotos from 41 to 74s and some Dodges and Imperials,1 55 Packard,couple of Cadilliacs.I did have a real nice 49 Caddy limo that used the same body as the 39 but with the nice overhead valve V8 and hydramatic that came with it new.An old man I knew had it and a 1931 V16,huge limo,it was 10,000.00 in 76,but it hadnt been run since 54,to this day I wished I had bought it,it was in excellant condition and what I could have made on it,Oh well hindsight is always better.I will get my brother to help me with some pics he just recently gave me an electronic camera. Thanks Bobby

Post# 636635 , Reply# 76   11/5/2012 at 00:27 (2,053 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

I just hate it when people take perfectly fine vintage cars and chop them into low riders......

I'm just a purist, I guess.


Post# 636642 , Reply# 77   11/5/2012 at 01:09 (2,053 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1958 Ford

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Post# 636643 , Reply# 78   11/5/2012 at 01:11 (2,053 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1923 Mercer

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Post# 636644 , Reply# 79   11/5/2012 at 01:12 (2,053 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1963 Dodge

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Post# 636645 , Reply# 80   11/5/2012 at 01:13 (2,053 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1961 Ford

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Post# 636646 , Reply# 81   11/5/2012 at 01:15 (2,053 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1946 Pontiac

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Post# 636647 , Reply# 82   11/5/2012 at 01:16 (2,053 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
1950 Ford

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Post# 636688 , Reply# 83   11/5/2012 at 07:29 (2,053 days old) by whirlaway (hampton va)        
49 Caddy Series

Whirlcool,I agree with you one hundred percent,The 1949 Cadillac Limo and only the Limo carried over the 39 Chassis and body from the front cowl back the rest of them had the nice Lower modern body,but rather than flathead V8,they came with the nice 331 overhead valve v8 from the factory.I like old cars also to come totally stock,I too hate it when people ruin a nice one. Bobby

Post# 636754 , Reply# 84   11/5/2012 at 14:53 (2,052 days old) by Davey7 (Chicago)        

Ha! I think my mom's first car was a '49 Ford. How different was it from a '50?

Post# 636765 , Reply# 85   11/5/2012 at 15:09 (2,052 days old) by whirlaway (hampton va)        
Not much!

Parking lights are different,and I think you could get ford-o-matic on the 50s but not the 49s correct me if Im wrong please,but actually identical.Ford was so excited with the new 49s they came out inalmost mid 48.A 48 and 9 were as different as night and day.I always liked them even though I wasnt a Ford person,but from 49 to 56 the Ford line was beautiful.

Post# 636766 , Reply# 86   11/5/2012 at 15:17 (2,052 days old) by nurdlinger (Tucson AZ)        
'49 Ford. How different was it from a '50?

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What I know for sure:

On the front the parking lights in the '49 were not where they are in '50. Instead, they were an extension of the grille bar as highlighted in the image. The area below was just painted metal, IIRC.

What I think I know:

'50 had a gas door that opened, '49 had the filler poking through the fender with a cap like a lot of pickup trucks had.

I believe '49 had exposed trunk hinges, '50 concealed the hinges.


Post# 636767 , Reply# 87   11/5/2012 at 15:18 (2,052 days old) by nurdlinger (Tucson AZ)        
ford-o-matic

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First offered in '51. Interior & dash was different in '51, whereas '49 and '50 were the same I think.

Post# 636768 , Reply# 88   11/5/2012 at 15:20 (2,052 days old) by nurdlinger (Tucson AZ)        
Pontiac Four Door Streamliner

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I don't know what year this is, but we had one just like it painted the same colors when I was a very little kid. My Dad's first automatic transmission, he never wanted anything else after that.

Post# 637344 , Reply# 89   11/7/2012 at 13:21 (2,050 days old) by Davey7 (Chicago)        

Thanks Fellas! My mom's had a stick, which she stuck to until they got their latest car (a '99 Civic).

Post# 637420 , Reply# 90   11/7/2012 at 21:10 (2,050 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        
Memory lane

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wow, what good quality ads - some of these manufacturers I don't recognize...Kaiser and Hudson, I knew, though.

Our family had a late 40's Willys Jeep in 1950-5. The steering wheel FELL OFF when my mom pulled up off Woodward and parked it. I remember many deep snows in the early 1950's in SE Michigan.

Next we had a green early 50's Studebaker. I remember, of all things, the mohair-like seats were so nice and warm in those cold Michigan winters.

Then, we had a 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 XL- got my first look at the Smokey Mountains in 1964, and Florida and no traffic on I-75. Some of you may have remembered that.

Following, came a Turquoise'ish 1965(or 66) Mercury Monterey, which I learned to drive in. Gas was less than 0.25/gal, back then, and again, we visited my grandmother driving south on most quiet and uncluttered I-75. No one on the road. You could get bored going through the pine-tree lined I-75 states.

That 1959 Buick ad reminded me of my neighbor's white '59 Buick LeSabre. Their son and my friend Fred took us for a ride around the block, until he decided he liked driving it...and took it to the newly-completed I-75 in S.E. Michigan, and put to the pedal to the metal..for three or so miles - 110-120mph. Not too smart, but fun! Luckily, there were no cars, no police, nothing but newly minted pavement, that Sunday in 1962.

My grandfather had a turquoise 1955 Ford, that I admired-always a cream puff, til the day he died. It reminded me...one day when working near Dearborn, Mi, I saw maybe 30-40 Fords, all from mid 1950's(many like his) arriving in the front of Ford Headquarters for a probable show at The Henry Ford Museum and Greenfield Village(now just called The Henry Ford). The COLORS were of every type available...and there many...like the washing machines and dryers we all love...so colorful.

I had a 1964 Falcon in 1967 -68. I never saw one of those wagons, though..kind of funny looking. Many of you will know that the Mustang was based on the Falcon frame, just added a new body(a Lee Iacoca idea, I think).

I had a pretty rusted out(in the trunk) 1972, gold 50th Anniversary Oldsmobile Regency with black mohair seats and a Tiffany clock. Owned by a doctor first, it was like a limosine(or pimp-mobile, as they say in Detroit). Loved that car - and saw a beautifully restored one on the web. A very heavy car, it would do zero to sixty in 10.6 seconds or less, but 9-10 miles per gallon. Ouch.

We had a 1968 Cougar, five-speed manual, bucket seats, and fast..and I better stop here - sorry to go on and on...but these are great ads, and bring back alot of memories.

Great quality and interesting - thanks and keep 'em coming, Ultramatic.





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Post# 637442 , Reply# 91   11/7/2012 at 23:30 (2,050 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
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Post# 637443 , Reply# 92   11/7/2012 at 23:31 (2,050 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
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Post# 637445 , Reply# 93   11/7/2012 at 23:33 (2,050 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
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Post# 640775 , Reply# 94   11/22/2012 at 03:12 (2,036 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
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Post# 640776 , Reply# 95   11/22/2012 at 03:13 (2,036 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
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Post# 640777 , Reply# 96   11/22/2012 at 03:14 (2,036 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
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Post# 641036 , Reply# 97   11/23/2012 at 12:41 (2,034 days old) by dirtybuck (Springfield, MO)        

Wasn't the Olds Vista Cruiser built on the same platform as the Chevy Chevelle?


Post# 641066 , Reply# 98   11/23/2012 at 14:51 (2,034 days old) by MikeS (Las Vegas)        
Vista Cruiser

The Olds Vista Cruiser (and the Buick Sportwagon) was built on a stretched version of GM's A-Body intermediate chassis, the same one used on the shorter Chevrolet Chevelle/Pontiac Tempest-LeMans/Buick Special-Skylark and Olds F-85-Cutlass. The Vista-based Sportswagon was dropped at the end of the 1969 model year, but the name lived on as a regular version of the A-Body wagon. The Vista Cruiser continued through 1972 with the roof windows, but the restyled 1973 version was just a regular A-Body with a pop-up sunroof.

Post# 641067 , Reply# 99   11/23/2012 at 15:07 (2,034 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

There was a 56' Lincoln Mark that was sitting for years inside a furniture store here in Houston. It was previouly owned by Elvis. I don't know if it is still there though. The owner of the furniture store collected a lot of weird things and put them on display in his Gallery Furniture stores.

Post# 641446 , Reply# 100   11/25/2012 at 08:44 (2,033 days old) by hydralique (Los Angeles)        

The Continental Mark II is a really lovely car and quite rare, with only a hair over 3000 built in '56 and '57. It was hugely expensive when new, much more than a regular Lincoln. Ford presented the Continental nameplate as being a separate division within Lincoln intended to make truly top of the line luxury cars.

Cadillac's competitor to the Mark II was the '57-'60 Eldorado Broughm, which shared virtually no body parts with the other Eldorados. With the '57-'58 Broughm Caddy went the opposite way from Lincoln: instead of a conservative and hyper-elegant two door, the Broughm was a flashy beyond belief four door hardtop with every Cadillac styling gimmick including big fins and dagmar bumpers. The '59-'60 Broughm, of which about 200 total were assembled in Italy by Pininfarina, was toned down quite a bit but still very Cadillac.

After the Mark II and Eldo Broughm Lincoln and Cadillac decided to permanently abandon upper level luxury cars and concentrate on mass-market luxury. This has led us to today's world where no American company makes an upper end luxury car; Mercedes and BMW have taken up the slack with some help from Lexus and Audi.


Post# 641938 , Reply# 101   11/26/2012 at 23:56 (2,031 days old) by Iowegian ()        

@hydralique:

Not really.

The Lincoln Mk. II can't be compared to any Cadillac. There never was a Cadillac equivalent. Even when Cadillac sold LaSalle's as their more affordable line in the late 1920s.

The Lincoln Mk. II was the American Rolls-Royce.

Historically, Cadillacs have never been comparable to Lincolns. Until the mid 1960s, when both raced to make bigger and wider cars that mobsters and insurance agents could afford to buy.


Post# 642053 , Reply# 102   11/27/2012 at 11:31 (2,030 days old) by Whirlaway (hampton va)        
Cadillac Far Better

A lincoln was never the car a Cadilliac was,or Even an Imperial.The Lincoln had a very noisy 8 in the fifties,also a terrible electrical system and not dependable.A dealer once told me when the cutomers would come in to trade off the 60s Lincolns they would all almost cry,hardly anything electrical would work.Yes The Mark 2 was nice it was called Americas firt 10,000 dollar car the only option was AC,but in 5years they had very little resale value,because of the poor drive train.Many people replaced the motors with 331 Cadillac motors,they did the same thing in the 40s with the Lincolns.

Post# 642738 , Reply# 103   11/29/2012 at 22:57 (2,028 days old) by abcomatic (Bradford, Illinois)        
'59 Lincoln

I have a '59 Lincoln Continental Mark 4. The engine is very quiet and no body squeaks at all. Everything works electrically in it except for the clock. It has 56k original miles. Great road car, not easy on gas but then neither was Cadillac or Imperial. Gary


Post# 642812 , Reply# 104   11/30/2012 at 07:29 (2,028 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Gary, do you have pics of your Lincoln?  Would love to see them if you do.

 

Thanks,

another Gary!


Post# 642816 , Reply# 105   11/30/2012 at 07:44 (2,028 days old) by Whirlaway (hampton va)        
Gas Mileage

The Imperials did quite well,mine on the road averaged 17,butin town about 14,that old hemi was actually very good on gas and you only needed to run regular,Ive maybe 10 of them Desoto ,Chrysler and never heard the first one spark knock.But quite heavy the front springs would get weaker with time.The hemi I could get about 20 on the road.The 64 413 17to18 on the road.Most of your town mileage in those days had alot to do with slippage in some of those early automatics,you put an old Buick it would moan and groan and them finally move,but gas was only 25 to 30cents a gallon so who cared.Bobby

Post# 642819 , Reply# 106   11/30/2012 at 08:09 (2,028 days old) by hydralique (Los Angeles)        
Lincoln V-8 . . .

Lincoln was all new for '58, including the engine. It was known as the "MEL" engine at Ford, for "Mercury Edsel Lincoln" as those divisions were intended to use it. In reality, in '59 and '60 Ford used it too as it was a rare option on the Thunderbird. 

 

Edsel had been intended to occupy a non-existent slot between Ford and Mercury and therefore push big Mercurys up to compete with the Buick Electra and Oldsmobile 98 - Ford really wanted a piece of that profitable market. That's why the TOL '59 and '60 Mercury Park Lanes were so large and had the MEL engine as standard equipment. Of course Edsel failed miserably, and most upper line Buick and Olds customers didn't see Mercury as a competitor, so after '60 Mercurys once again were based almost entirely on Ford bits and the MEL became a Lincoln exclusive engine in 430 and later 462 cubic inch versions. The MEL was known as a good, quiet and reliable engine but was for many years the heaviest engine made in the US, making it more appropriate for very large cars.

 

The new '58 Lincolns were the largest unit body cars built at the time and for many years afterwords. While unibody construction can in theory be lighter than having a separate chassis, those Lincolns ended out being extremely heavy as they were blazing new territory. For that reason they needed the 430 at a time when Cadillac only had a 365 (up to 390 in '59) and the Imperial a 392 (up to 413 in '59). Unibody design also helps reduce rattles, which was one of Ford's goals in going unibody on the Thunderbird and Lincoln.

 

Ford generally did not have as good a reputation for reliable electrical convenience items as did GM. I still recall my aunt's '60 Mercury Colony Park four door hardtop wagon with power everything, much of which only worked sporadically. In '68 it was replaced with a new Chevy wagon with manual windows, locks and seats, much to my aunt's relief. However, that Colony Park was used hard by a large family and was pretty worn out by then.




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Post# 642839 , Reply# 107   11/30/2012 at 11:10 (2,027 days old) by JeffG ()        

The racing stripe family in the Fairlane ad are a riot imo. I'm just old enough to remember that craze. Also love the swivel seats in the DeSoto. Thanks to the uploaders!

Post# 643003 , Reply# 108   11/30/2012 at 20:16 (2,027 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
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Post# 643004 , Reply# 109   11/30/2012 at 20:17 (2,027 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
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Post# 643009 , Reply# 110   11/30/2012 at 20:29 (2,027 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
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