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1955 GE Combo Rescued!
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Post# 624827   9/14/2012 at 07:31 (4,240 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        

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And heading home!

Glam shot-- its in beautiful shape.





Post# 624828 , Reply# 1   9/14/2012 at 07:34 (4,240 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
It has 'ActiVane" washing!!

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4 baffles like Tom said and they have Vent-a-Vane technology. Totally unlike the later Combos!!
Whoohoo!
And since the mechanism is a tranny the tub is EASY to turn,unlike the three belt system!!




Post# 624829 , Reply# 2   9/14/2012 at 07:36 (4,240 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
LOVE the colors

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of the machine, love that Copper look!

The buttons are fab! It has "Omit Dry" option! Again unique to this machine!


Post# 624830 , Reply# 3   9/14/2012 at 07:37 (4,240 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
That'll be the new slogan

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-Omit Dry- please!


Post# 624831 , Reply# 4   9/14/2012 at 07:38 (4,240 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Dryer control

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Sublime -Greg look! My first '50's GE with Automatic Dry control!! WHoohoo!


Post# 624832 , Reply# 5   9/14/2012 at 07:40 (4,240 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Gasket

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is nice and supple HALLALUJAH!


Post# 624834 , Reply# 6   9/14/2012 at 07:41 (4,240 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Did you notice its a

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Combination??


Post# 624835 , Reply# 7   9/14/2012 at 07:43 (4,240 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Schematic

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In One piece now if I can get it home that way!


Post# 624837 , Reply# 8   9/14/2012 at 07:44 (4,240 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Name

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plate info-

Post# 624838 , Reply# 9   9/14/2012 at 07:47 (4,240 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
Omit - Drooling!

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It's lovely! The black buttons are so cool - early, early!
Do you know what the cutoff temp is for regular drying?

The spin portion of the dial is RED! Danger?

So sweet - this will look great next to your '56 washer!!


Post# 624840 , Reply# 10   9/14/2012 at 07:48 (4,240 days old) by moparguy (Virginia)        

AWESOME! Looks great, love the copper color too!
Congratulations again!


Post# 624843 , Reply# 11   9/14/2012 at 07:58 (4,240 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.)        
Yay

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And it would look great with a GE "Combination" fridge/freezer from the same period.

Post# 624844 , Reply# 12   9/14/2012 at 07:59 (4,240 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Greg I love that

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Red Spin= DANGER WILL ROBINSON!!
LOL

Yes Greg its going to shine next to the '56FF.

YAY


Post# 624847 , Reply# 13   9/14/2012 at 08:12 (4,240 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Very nice Jet! "water heater", Niiiice!

Post# 624871 , Reply# 14   9/14/2012 at 10:45 (4,240 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
1955 GE Combo

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Great save Jon, it looks to be in great shape Amazing.

 

   All GE Combos had an omit dry button but it was later [ more appropriately called ] drip dry , LOL.

 

   Jon you do know that the water heater feature won't work because it just uses the dry heaters at the

   top of the outer tub, so that can't possibly work , LOL.

 

   The maximum dry temperature measured at the thermostat sensor bulb is around 280 degrees on the

machines with 6 drum  baffles and is a little higher the four baffle drum machines, but sure to use the

Special setting on the dry control for any thing that has elastic or any synthetic fiber content to prevent falling undies.


Post# 624872 , Reply# 15   9/14/2012 at 10:46 (4,240 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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The red dial indicates how the combo can warp the time-space continuum when it achieves high speed... LOL! Nice capture! Will we see it demolished by a wrecking ball like my poor Lady K's?

RCD


Post# 624873 , Reply# 16   9/14/2012 at 10:58 (4,240 days old) by golittlesport (California)        

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Congrats, Jon! A rare beauty indeed!

Post# 624877 , Reply# 17   9/14/2012 at 11:10 (4,240 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Neat, Jon, I am so happy that you were able to rescue it. Those formed baffles look like the ones in the WP 33" combo. Given their shape, you can see that the motor does not reverse like in the newer GE combos. The red spin area of the timer might be to warn bystanders to be on the lookout for a lurching combo if a floor cup breaks loose.

Post# 624879 , Reply# 18   9/14/2012 at 11:13 (4,240 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
"That does not compute."

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NEVER have seen the rinse cycle LONGER than the wash cycle. OH the wonder of it! Do tell.

 

Omit is a real tickler. Omit me! "We'll have to cancel. I have terrible gas..........."


Post# 624882 , Reply# 19   9/14/2012 at 11:32 (4,240 days old) by moparwash (Pittsburgh,PA )        
what a find!

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Did you also see the Foodarama he was selling?

Post# 624884 , Reply# 20   9/14/2012 at 11:44 (4,239 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Wow, what a find! Congratulations! I'm looking forward to see it next to the 56 toploader!

Post# 624886 , Reply# 21   9/14/2012 at 12:02 (4,239 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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Congratulations Jon! It looks amazing. Yay that you have a wiring diagram already!!

Post# 624928 , Reply# 22   9/14/2012 at 14:25 (4,239 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Congratulations

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Wow, another great find, vintage washing & drying, with a supple boot, programme options and a spinning drum - all that is missing is Artys blanket and Rosalies....Enjoy!!!

Post# 624933 , Reply# 23   9/14/2012 at 14:59 (4,239 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Yay Jon!!!!! Congratulations, its beautiful, and especially wonderful since this machine spins between the wash and the rinses unlike the later non-transmission machines! A rare find for sure!

Post# 624952 , Reply# 24   9/14/2012 at 16:04 (4,239 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Thanks all!

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RCD - the wrecking ball is coming to a theater near you!

John- thanks for the heads up on dry setting, I hate crunchy underwear!! But really I can broil the wash??

Rich- I have to ask did you have anything to do with the guy who ships "hose clamp wrenches" in the new Postal Ad??


Moparwash- I did see the Foodarama and its really in mint shape too, no rust,all the logo badges look great, and supple gaskets right down to the floor! And he also has a similar model in a GE Monitor top which is also immaculate for its age! It has wooden door surrounds.

Mike- The GE will be getting Artey's blanket real soon and a good dose of Rosalie's too,and some vintage DASH!!

Robert - I cant' wait to see the whole cycle!!



Post# 624953 , Reply# 25   9/14/2012 at 16:11 (4,239 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Yeah Tom about the floor cups>>

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a floor cup came off when moving it, were there originally 2 or 4 cups with these machines??



Post# 624969 , Reply# 26   9/14/2012 at 16:57 (4,239 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)        

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The best part of this machine - all of that shiny stuff is real, honest-to-God metal with a chrome finish.

 

None of this plastic "chrome" in 1955!

 

lawrence


Post# 624978 , Reply# 27   9/14/2012 at 17:45 (4,239 days old) by in2itdood ()        
very cool!

Love it!

Post# 624995 , Reply# 28   9/14/2012 at 19:09 (4,239 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Jon I am happy and thrilled!!!!


Post# 625019 , Reply# 29   9/14/2012 at 20:14 (4,239 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

The rinse cycle is so long because there are spins after each rinse.

Post# 625023 , Reply# 30   9/14/2012 at 20:57 (4,239 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
I hope so Tom

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I am reading the 1956 doctrine and it says nothing of spins but I know this is a 1955 machine, the M designation proves that!

Post# 625026 , Reply# 31   9/14/2012 at 21:11 (4,239 days old) by maytag63 (South Berwick, Maine)        

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Very nice, congratulations!

Post# 625027 , Reply# 32   9/14/2012 at 21:15 (4,239 days old) by Maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)        
Nice save, Jon!


Looks to be in great shape!



Now for those who know about GE Combinations, did they ever make a gas heated combination?



Lawrence/Maytagbear


Post# 625033 , Reply# 33   9/14/2012 at 21:53 (4,239 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Gas GE Condenser Combos

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GE tried to make a gas condenser combo, but because it is a sealed system the gas flame kept going out as the oxygen was depleted very quickly, please don't believe a word of this, LOL.

 

Seriously GE only made condenser electric combos.


Post# 625034 , Reply# 34   9/14/2012 at 21:53 (4,239 days old) by A440 ()        

Awesome Jon!
It looks to be in great shape!!!
I know you are super excited!
Brent


Post# 625096 , Reply# 35   9/15/2012 at 07:00 (4,239 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Gas condensing dryer

Decades ago, John and I happened on an estate sale in Chevy Chase, MD where the children walked away from the house and left it in the hands of an estate sale agent. It was packed, literally. The ladies, whom we got to know, had to clear the living & dining rooms and then work their way through the accumulation in the rest of the house to bring stuff out to sell. When they were able to open the door to the basement stairs, the basement was packed to the ceiling; there were no discernable stairs. As they got stuff out of there, we went into the basement. The early 50s chest freezer was locked, of course, but frost and ice was coming out between the lid and the chest where the gasket was damaged and growing down the side of the cabinet. The husband had made some arrangement with with the vent from the early 50s Bendix gas dryer that looked like he vented it over and down into the laundry tubs. I think there was some cold water tubing involved, but the best we could come up with was that he was trying to condense the water vapor. It was a sad place. He lived there alone after his wife died. He had portable electric space heaters because the furnace was packed away in all of the accumulation. Lots of cookware and utensils were hung from the kitchen ceiling. I don't know if he used the water heater or not. There was a Jenn-Air range in the kitchen, but he had a two element hot plate on top of it so it might have stopped working. The children had watched his derangement grow over the years. They came back for the funeral, but did not enter the house and left the whole thing in the hands of the lawyer. There was some neat stuff buried (literally) there but it took months to clean out the house and each weekend there were more things to look at. It was an estate sale to which they could have sold season tickets, but it did give us a glimpse of an attempt to fashion a gas condensing dryer. It just did not involve an internal condenser.

Post# 625211 , Reply# 36   9/15/2012 at 17:07 (4,238 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Jon!

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Congratulations on the GE Combination. I guess your collection is complete now.

Cant wait to see the machine when it arrives!

Patrick


Post# 625598 , Reply# 37   9/17/2012 at 08:11 (4,237 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Arrival!

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Finally home safe and sound!

Post# 625599 , Reply# 38   9/17/2012 at 08:14 (4,237 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Got into it yesterday

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she is a 1955 for sure , the first GE Combo and she is different even from the 1956 models that Robert scanned in the ephemera section. This machine is unique for several reasons evidently. First it has its own motor pump, the pump in later models 56>>onwards have direct connect of the pump to the drive motor.

How 1999 to have a pump motor--shades of the future!






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Post# 625601 , Reply# 39   9/17/2012 at 08:23 (4,237 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Another

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feature I haven't seen is Brass water catches for the tub. Later models are rubber or plastic.

GE sure puts its best foot forward on its introductory machines!


Post# 625602 , Reply# 40   9/17/2012 at 08:25 (4,237 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
No rust

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anywhere I can find on this machine, look at the inside of the backplate.



Post# 625604 , Reply# 41   9/17/2012 at 08:27 (4,237 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Up her skirt

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whoohoo

Post# 625605 , Reply# 42   9/17/2012 at 08:28 (4,237 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Found the first problem

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Plugged it in , motor sounded real smooth quite BUT no tub turning!

No.1 belt snapped in the past!


Post# 625606 , Reply# 43   9/17/2012 at 08:29 (4,237 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
new belt is on order

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so I can now go back and finish my other project. pix to kum!!

Omit Dry- people!




Post# 625622 , Reply# 44   9/17/2012 at 10:22 (4,237 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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Very cool Jon.... many CONGRATS on this find and how clean it is!

 

It sure is purrrdy!

 

Kevin


Post# 625630 , Reply# 45   9/17/2012 at 11:30 (4,237 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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That's a really nice find Jon! 

 

Congratulations!


Post# 625649 , Reply# 46   9/17/2012 at 13:43 (4,236 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Gosh, that independent pump motor probably is rated for continuous duty because of the long dry cycle, unlike today's drain pump motors.

Post# 625700 , Reply# 47   9/17/2012 at 16:11 (4,236 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
It's beautiful Jon!

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Don't you love it when you find something as preserved as this is.

I wonder if when the belt snapped this is why they stopped using it?

Could have been the start of the "it's broken, let's get a new one" mentality.

How lucky for you.

All the best! - Patrick


Post# 625723 , Reply# 48   9/17/2012 at 19:13 (4,236 days old) by bendixmark (Winchester Mass)        
outstanding find

Hey Jon ,what a beautiful machine.So nice to find one in such pristine condition.I have never seen one this old before.I like this design with the transmission much better wonder why they didnt keep it.I once had a pristine 1968 Ge combo with the dispenser and all that but I couldnt make it spin,I lost that machine along with many others during a dark period in my history known as the purge of 86.Looking forward to more pictures and congratulations on a wonderful find.

Post# 625839 , Reply# 49   9/18/2012 at 05:34 (4,236 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Congrats

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Will this machine make it down to Chatham ???

Post# 625840 , Reply# 50   9/18/2012 at 05:43 (4,236 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Bendixmark, the change to the variable sheave speed changer assembly was done because it was much cheaper than a transmission, as was the reason for the pump change, no doubt.

Post# 625856 , Reply# 51   9/18/2012 at 07:42 (4,236 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
I also think

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the change may have been made because the power train was almost identical to Bendix's power train. But GE was always more cost conscious so that may have been the motivating factor.



Post# 625857 , Reply# 52   9/18/2012 at 07:50 (4,236 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
Awesome save, Jon!

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Super cute dials - so detailed and fancy-pants, later dials were much more plain.

No pausing to reverse, I'll bet the clothes never stop moving!


Post# 625858 , Reply# 53   9/18/2012 at 07:52 (4,236 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Early GE Combo

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I also suspect the the transmission didn't work nearly as well as it only has two speeds and it probably would really make this machine jump when it would try to spin an out of balance load. Even though this machine only spins around 200 RPMs because it has no suspension they do try to move a little. The later variable drive system allowed the machine to spin at any necessary speed up to the max speed of 225 RPMs to keep vibration under control.

 

 I suspect that the electric drain pump was done away with for durability reasons as this pump would sometimes have to run for 2 hours at a time with heavy loads in the dry cycle. GE made the biggest improvement in there combos with the final redesign in the 1964 models when they started using the regular GE FF washer water pump. This more powerful pump could easily empty the combo in under 30 seconds and was much better at gets sudsy water water out without suds locking.


Post# 625930 , Reply# 54   9/18/2012 at 14:37 (4,235 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Im not sure I get your point John

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The Duo "jumped' from 50 cycles to 275 in one step. The GE "jumps" from 47 cycles to 208. A smaller jump and a smaller tub.

The Combo does have a small suspension,the tub is mounted on 4 vertical leaf springs and there is a "scissor sensor" which cuts out spin and moves to tumble if it gets triggered by the rocking of the suspension. Also the door diaphragm will act like a damper as it moves against the cabinet with the tub action.


I suppose you mean this machine will just hobble between spin and tumble where the later Combos can "sort of spin" for awhile.





Post# 626008 , Reply# 55   9/18/2012 at 21:07 (4,235 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
You can see the

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"suspension" in the ephemera section 1956 GE Combo Service page 1.

The tub assembly can rock left or right slightly and at the bottom is the scissor mechanism to stop out of balance loads.


Post# 626751 , Reply# 56   9/22/2012 at 08:47 (4,232 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Ahh..correction

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I had said it was a 4 baffle machine, but yesterday I was working inside the drum to tighten the door bolts>>[try that one!!!!] and discovered its actually a 3 baffle machine. So when it gets water and clothes it will be interesting to see just how she tumbles!

Try working inside a machine with a mirror and a light! There are 8 holes in the tub through which only ONE of them you can get at the door screws. At least I didn't have to take the tub out!!! Talk about a bizzare service procedure!!

Today I get back my '56 FF from John who has been nicely holding it for me.

YAY


Post# 626756 , Reply# 57   9/22/2012 at 09:05 (4,232 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Aferim!

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So you're not just a pretty face.

 

Thank you for posting the Electrical Schematic as well. You are now officially the Grand Poobah of Combos! What a beautiful machine. I can't believe I gave up a GE combo (1966-ish) not 20 miles away from you, last year AND I HAD THE TRUCK THAT DAY! Kicking myself. Prejudice is a self-destructive flaw.


Post# 626826 , Reply# 58   9/22/2012 at 14:25 (4,231 days old) by moderncleveland (Cleveland)        

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Very nice! I kow that chrome and copper ... it's a near exact match to our GE fridge -- also a "Combination"! Just think how in the late 50s you could get all new appliances and they would all match! Happy washing!

Post# 626831 , Reply# 59   9/22/2012 at 14:39 (4,231 days old) by bendixmark (Winchester Mass)        
transmission change

I suspect god may have told them to bring in the sheaves.

Post# 627070 , Reply# 60   9/23/2012 at 14:37 (4,230 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Thank you Ken

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I love being the Grand Poobah of Combos!!

The new belt should arrive tomorrow so I can test the machine this week.

It will be interesting to see if the machine just alternates between tumble and spin or can actually get up to speed.





Post# 627071 , Reply# 61   9/23/2012 at 14:43 (4,230 days old) by AutoWasherFreak ()        

All hail to the King of Combos! Nice machine, I will be waiting patiently for a video :-)


Post# 627093 , Reply# 62   9/23/2012 at 16:10 (4,230 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Jon, it was that jump from 50 to 275 that caused the biggest lurch in the suspended mechanism.

Post# 627183 , Reply# 63   9/23/2012 at 21:31 (4,230 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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King of Combos - errh.

Three vanes - maybe it will tumble like a Maytag combo.


Post# 627388 , Reply# 64   9/24/2012 at 20:51 (4,229 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
LOL!

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Greg!! Now you can come back and play!!




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