Thread Number: 4272
Re: Info written to Kitchen Aid, about not using Stainless Steel in their Dryers: |
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Post# 98307 , Reply# 1   12/14/2005 at 08:12 (6,679 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 98320 , Reply# 3   12/14/2005 at 09:29 (6,679 days old) by agiflow ()   |   | |
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The only problem i have encountered with the powder coated drum is that after years of use the powder wears down to the bare metal underneath. Mine is at that stage now, though the metal underneath has not rusted out. |
Post# 98327 , Reply# 4   12/14/2005 at 10:10 (6,679 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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OK stainless steel is expensive. Life is expensive. Nice things are expensive. Quality costs too. How often do drums change designs? Offer a rebate for SS parts turned-in that are destined for the Krusher. Then, the companies can wash and reuse as is, sell as a used part or salvage the material. Louis, arent most Euro machines built with recycling in mind and have recyling-coded parts? |
Post# 98331 , Reply# 5   12/14/2005 at 10:27 (6,679 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 98345 , Reply# 7   12/14/2005 at 14:27 (6,679 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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in a dryer, I look for: Low-heat opitons Extended cool-downs Stainless steel drums. In imy search for informaiton, I accidentally found that GE has a belt switch that turns off the motor and the heat should the belt pop. *SOLD* I went and got one, since I needed a dryer. I grew up with Maytags and Sears. Never GE W&D. But my first purchased W&D were GE and they were great! |
Post# 98352 , Reply# 9   12/14/2005 at 15:11 (6,679 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 98377 , Reply# 11   12/14/2005 at 19:18 (6,679 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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IIRC not even many or any commercial/laundromat dryers have SS drums. With the cost of SS going through the roof, we are probably going to see less and less of it on all but high end laundry appliances like Miele. Case in point almost all the new front loaders sold in the United States for domestic use except Miele and SQ have plastic outer tubs. Used to be SS or enamelled steel, but now just plastic. This coincides with drum warranties that have pretty much vanished. Time was there would be a lifetime warranty on both outer and inner front loader drums, again most modern front loaders sold today have cut that back drastically. The above not withstanding, considering the average amount of time most Americans hold onto a washer/dryer, the drums will probably out last use. Things might be different if as in Europe major appliances were required to be broken down and recycled. Launderess |
Post# 98382 , Reply# 12   12/14/2005 at 20:54 (6,679 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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My F&P GWL08 and IWL12 both have stainless wash baskets. Well, mostly. The bottom is plastic, I suppose for ease in molding the airdome that is part-and-parcel of the both the "transmission" mechanism and for auto water level detection. There's also a plastic liquid-filled balance ring around the top. So only the basket sidewall is stainless steel. The 1999 DE04 dryer drum is white enamel or powdercoat or whatever. Never had any trouble in the five years I used it, and no evidence of any problems now since it went to live with my grandmother. My IWL12 topload dryer has a stainless drum as well, except for the left end of the cylinder (which is mounted transversely in the cabinet) where the airflow grille and lint bucket are located. I can't say how high-grade SS it may be, but it doesn't appear to have suffered any wear beyond the reasonable fine scratches from rivets and buttons on jeans. |
Post# 98405 , Reply# 13   12/15/2005 at 00:36 (6,679 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 98425 , Reply# 14   12/15/2005 at 06:32 (6,678 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )   |   | |
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Don't most cities these days have recycling programs or at the very least recycling areas at the landfills if you take items there yourself to dispose of. Our landfill does, any major appliances you bring in get dropped off in a special area, batteries and chemicals in another and your green garbage bag household waste in another. If they don't they're losing money because they can then resell them to a recycler rather than covering them with dirt.
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Post# 98434 , Reply# 15   12/15/2005 at 06:43 (6,678 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 98442 , Reply# 16   12/15/2005 at 07:01 (6,678 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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NYC is such a big place (anonymity guaranteed) MANY (dare I say most? )rummage through the "dispose of" piles found in front of aparmtnet buildings. I found a MINT Electrolux (USA)vacuum. Plainly visible. Reason tossed? VERY long human hair clogging hose. Cut a wire hanger with tool, stick in hose(OUCH) and voila. Perfect. Disinfected it deodorized it, left in extreme cold in garage for three days to kill any potential beasties..and perfection. That was a real fumb duck who tossed it. |
Post# 98605 , Reply# 18   12/16/2005 at 08:29 (6,677 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 98737 , Reply# 20   12/17/2005 at 17:00 (6,676 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 98962 , Reply# 21   12/19/2005 at 02:51 (6,675 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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I doubt that zinc heated to room heating temperatures will have any odor, since virtually no zinc atoms will be liberated. There is a condition known as "zinc fever" that is known to welders. That's because galvanized coatings, heated to welding temperatures, causes zinc atoms to be liberated. If inhaled this can cause one heck of a headache, or so I've read. Excessive fumes can also cause lasting neurological problems. This is why most items that need both welding and galvanizing are welded first, and then galvanized. Welding temps are above about 1300 degrees F. A home furnace might heat its ducting to about 200F. Nowhere near the "danger zone". As for the aroma you detect in forced air furnace heated homes... some of it may be dust that is burnt by the heat exchanger. Usually this happens at startup in the fall, when dust that has settled back into the system through the air vents is heated. It goes away after the first run. If it continues, the furnace filter may be leaky, clogged, or too coarse. I prefer to use 3M Filtrete electrostatic pleated filters - while not HEPA, these can actually clean the air of dust, pollen, even some cooking odors. Stainless steel is not only more expensive than plain steel, but it's also harder to work. My Neptune dryer also has that bluing caused by new jeans... for me it's not a problem, although I'd prefer it if mfg's went back to good old porcelainized surfaces instead of this new fangled plastic paint. I agree that a stainless drum looks nicer than a painted one... but... functionally I don't think it makes much difference. |
Post# 99203 , Reply# 22   12/20/2005 at 22:22 (6,673 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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