1957 Pink Hotpoint Dishwasher, Oven, Stove Top


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1957 Pink Hotpoint Dishwasher, Oven, Stove Top

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Post# 630490 10/9/2012 at 15:15 (4,210 days old) by xpanam (Palm Springs California )
Checkrate/Likes Wasen't someone on here looking for this model DW? CLICK HERE TO GO TO xpanam's LINK on Cleveland Craigslist

Post# 630504 , Reply# 1 10/9/2012 at 16:09 (4,210 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)
Checkrate/Likes so cool never fails not in st louis

Post# 630515 , Reply# 2 10/9/2012 at 16:50 (4,210 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)
Checkrate/Likes 1 *my friend Robyn (1952Crestwood) is the person you are thinki* and she has been notified...PAT COFFEY

Post# 630517 , Reply# 3 10/9/2012 at 17:00 (4,210 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes 1 *Emailed the seller!* Thank You, Thank You xpanam & appliguy!!!! I have emailed the seller with an offer for just the DW alone. I would love the whole set but I'm going to have to drive to Cleveland to get this with a Ford Explorer and all I will be able to bring home is the DW, so everyone Please keep your fingers crossed. If this goes through it will literally be my ultimate DW and from the looks of things it might be in working condition to boot!

Post# 630542 , Reply# 4 10/9/2012 at 19:31 (4,210 days old) by xpanam (Palm Springs California )
Checkrate/Likes YAAAAAAA!!!! 952Crestwood. I hope you get this! Keep us informed.

Post# 630544 , Reply# 5 10/9/2012 at 19:42 (4,210 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)
Checkrate/Likes 1 *pics* for the archives. What program do folks use to get 3 or 4 pics into one post?

Post# 630666 , Reply# 6 10/10/2012 at 14:55 (4,209 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )
Checkrate/Likes Akronman: Just to answer your question: for MAC users: 1)Shift-Command-4 (the number), hold mouse button down, draw around desired photo, release. Do this for all photos. Open up all desired photos, arrange on desktop by pushing the window frame on top around to desired shape of combined photos. 2) Repeat the shift-command-4 keystroke, hold down mouse button and (don't release)...draw around the composed photos you selected, and then release mouse button You'll have a .jpg, that is all the photos in one, to import into applications or this website. For a PC , it's a couple keystrokes, to do the same, but I forget right now what I used to do - someone else might help me out here. It's just a matter of using the mouse to draw around the desired photo, combining all those by arranging them on your desktop to make a square of 2, 3, 4 or whatever amount , of photos and taking another snapshot of it to use as a single .jpg, or whatever you wish. Hope this helps a little!

Post# 630668 , Reply# 7 10/10/2012 at 14:56 (4,209 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )
Checkrate/Likes Nice pink ladies there. In the right kitchen, sweeet!

Post# 630685 , Reply# 8 10/10/2012 at 16:35 (4,209 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *Coming up on 24 hours since I emailed the seller..* no response yet. Hope it's not already gone...or worse... Fingers are getting kinda cramped from being crossed all this time. :-)

Post# 630700 , Reply# 9 10/10/2012 at 17:17 (4,209 days old) by dishwasherfan (Phoenix, AZ)
Checkrate/Likes *Dream Machine..* Good luck & I hope you get it. Bob..

Post# 631032 , Reply# 10 10/12/2012 at 08:13 (4,207 days old) by chris74 ()
Checkrate/Likes *Reversible Roll-R-Rack* What does this mean? The wall oven looks like European models, quite unusual for the US, I believe... Is the top gas-driven?

Post# 631082 , Reply# 11 10/12/2012 at 14:22 (4,207 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *First off dear friends.....* It looks like it will soon be a done deal!!! The seller has been very nice and even though I will have to pay a bit more for it than I had hoped to, (and found it does have a few hopefully minor issues), I am just so happy that it appears I will FINALLY have my beloved Hotpoint DW. The seller sent me some really clear pics and in them I see that the red portion of the indicator lens is about half missing, and the hinged detergent door is missing over the cups. The impeller and motor turn freely but the unit has been disconnected since about the 1970s. Hopefully the missing/broken parts will be available through a resource on here, but I can deal with those later. Right now I am planning on my 12 hour round trip to Cleveland, and figuring out when I can go. For Chris74......Hi from the US! The "Reversible" Roll-R-Rack is one of the features I have always loved about these models. From my observations (and I'm sure others more knowledgeable can help me here), a good deal of the older front loading units had the lower rack as the only one on rollers with the upper rack riding on top of the lower one. You had to either remove the upper rack to the counter to load the lower one or you had a hole in the upper rack through which you placed your dinnerware into the lower rack. All kind of cumbersome. These Hotpoints appear to be some of the first (if not the first ?) to offer both racks on separate rollers as we are used to seeing today, and thus the name Roll-R-Rack. The "reversible" part is a neat feature to allow more flexibility in loading either taller glassware or larger plates by adjusting the way you turn the wire part of the upper rack in it's frame. In one position, you can load up to 9 3/4" diameter plates in the lower rack and 6 3/4" tall glasses in the top rack. If you lift up the wire portion out of the upper rolling frame and horizontally turn it around (back to front), this allows you to load up to 10 1/2" diameter plates below with up to 6" tall glasses above. These units (according to commercials of the time) apparently were the earlier ones (if not the first) to offer a place to put a "wetting agent" (like Jet-Dry) to keep things from getting spotted. These were offered in both a gravity drain and a pump drain model. Based on the picture, could anyone on here advise which this one would be? Thanks to everyone who was wishing me well on this. Your support is so appreciated. To xpanam and appliguy, I can't thank you two enough for spotting and alerting me to this opportunity. I will post pics when I get it home.

Post# 631083 , Reply# 12 10/12/2012 at 14:37 (4,207 days old) by turquoisedude (.)
Checkrate/Likes Congratulations!! I hope you have fun with it!! Can't wait to see more pictures and a chronicle of your dream machine's re-birth.

Post# 631087 , Reply# 13 10/12/2012 at 15:07 (4,207 days old) by xpanam (Palm Springs California )
Checkrate/Likes Hi 1952Crestwood thats great news! Please drive carefully and have a safe trip.I have always thought that this was an interesting DW. Hopfully someone here can help you with those minor issues.

Post# 631144 , Reply# 14 10/12/2012 at 20:05 (4,207 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )
Checkrate/Likes *Re Wall Oven...* these were all electric, hotpoint only made electric appliances in those days..as for the reversible Roll R Rack, that was a Hotpoint exclusive feature, the rack would roll out for ease in loading, as for the reversible feature, im not really sure.

Post# 631167 , Reply# 15 10/12/2012 at 21:50 (4,206 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *I'm really looking forward to working with that* Reversible upper rack to see how it adjusts the height just by turning it horizontally. I'm guessing that turned one way, it has some kind of slots that the supports drop down into the frame (just a little) in order to make the room for the taller glassware, and when you reverse the position, the supports must rest on something higher in the frame, to raise it up and make more room under it for the lower rack. My Aunt's was the last of these I had my hands on, and it's been gone for over 30 years now, so this will be a real fun project to poke around and learn about. I don't remember us ever messing with the upper rack as far as changing position. Her's leaked from the time she moved into the house (in 1973), and although a repair person came out, and she used it a few times (that's how I remember seeing the indicator lit up) I think something else died and it was used predominately to rack up her hand washed Melmac dinnerware until it was replaced by a new one around 1981 or 82 if memory serves. It will be nice if this one ends up being fully operational, but I guess I think of it as a throwback to Auntie's, so I'm thinking it will serve as a cool built in drain rack, even if it's too far gone to mechanically restore. I am hoping this one is a gravity drain, so that what water drippage from the wet dishes will just work it's way down the drain, rather than sit in the bottom as I suspect it might in a pump drain style. I will sure post pics Turquoisedude and thanks for your sweet support and good wishes. Thanks for your well wishes too, xpanam! I am thinking I will try to make the round trip in one day by leaving super early, but I'm going to be prepared to stay over along the way home if I find it's too much. One thing for sure. I am going to have this swaddled like a newborn baby in foam egg crating, blankets, bubble wrap and cardboard to ensure it's as impervious to any damage as I can. Thanks norgeway for the additional info on the Roll-R-Racks and the ovens. I wish I had a way to get the oven & cooktop but from what I understand, the seller is going to make them available again, so if anyone is interested, I will be happy to give them a look-over while I am there picking up the dishwasher.

Post# 631217 , Reply# 16 10/13/2012 at 06:20 (4,206 days old) by chris74 ()
Checkrate/Likes *Thanks for the explanation!* But reverse means changed direction from front to behind, not top to down or am I missing the point? Congrats to that great finding!

Post# 631259 , Reply# 17 10/13/2012 at 10:38 (4,206 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )
Checkrate/Likes *I do know..* The earlier Hotpoint DWs used a top rack that rolled out with the lower rack , then you manually lifted it off to load the bottom rack.

Post# 631264 , Reply# 18 10/13/2012 at 10:49 (4,206 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)
Checkrate/Likes *Robyn* Do you remember when you first contacted me about a vintage Hotpoint d/w ?? Wow that seems like a long time ago. I have seen many of these pop up since then and I always thought about you and wondered if you ever got your dream machine. Congragulations, I hope you post some pics with your new machine!

Post# 631273 , Reply# 19 10/13/2012 at 11:19 (4,206 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)
Checkrate/Likes *Congratulations!* Love that oven! Hotpoints had some of the most innovative built-in ovens of the late 50's early 60's.

Post# 631275 , Reply# 20 10/13/2012 at 12:00 (4,206 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
Checkrate/Likes The top rack was raised or lowered depending on whether the little metal tag faced forward to to the rear. The little tab in the center of the upper rack read: Roll-R-Rack This end to front for tall glasses Reverse the rack for large plates There were steps formed in the wires that formed the front and rear ends of the rack that were offset at different places. Turned one way they sat in the frame higher for taller plates and if the rack was reversed, it sat in the frame lower for taller glasses. I showed this to some friends about their HP in 1968 after they had been using it for 13 years.

Post# 631288 , Reply# 21 10/13/2012 at 13:38 (4,206 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *Hi Everyone!* I sure do remember you lebron and yes, it really does seem like eons ago since we "met" through this group. Time goes by so fast. You, like everyone on here, are so nice and so helpful. I wish I could have found one of these locally but the DC area just seems almost devoid of vintage dishwashers, most especially these Hotpoints. Don't know if it's because there is too much transiency with people moving in and out, and things getting updated so fast that all the old stuff is way too long gone now, or what. Thanks for the explanation, Tomturbomatic. I knew about the little tag (that I now see is missing on this one I am getting) but thanks to you, I now know the mechanics of how the turning of the rack made the difference in height. That was funny about those people having their Hotpoint for 13 years and you showing them how that rack worked. I know my Aunt's had the tag, but I think in her case, the "tag to the front" position worked with her dinner & glassware every day and there was never a need to change it. She used the same two sets of Melmac every single day and the same sized Tupperware tumblers & glasses, and it all fit ok, so the rack just stayed as it was. I agree with you Bajaespuma. Hotpoint wall ovens were great looking units. I especially liked the one that was part of the set because it has a nice big window. I'm hoping that someone will buy it and the cook top from the seller to give them a good home. I have several pics that the seller sent me, and I will post those.

Post# 631289 , Reply# 22 10/13/2012 at 13:40 (4,206 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *Upper rack shot.* Kind of strange about the instruction tag being missing but I guess the original owner might have removed it because she felt it was scratching something.

Post# 631291 , Reply# 23 10/13/2012 at 13:43 (4,206 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *Lighted indicator dial* Maybe not as large or dazzling as the beautiful washer/dryer control panels, but I'm looking forward to seeing this repaired and lit up someday.

Post# 631311 , Reply# 24 10/13/2012 at 14:55 (4,206 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *The interior shot* In looking close I think my impeller has a big chip out of the top of one of the rounded top blades, and the little door for the detergent cups is missing. From reading the brochures/manuals on these that are posted in the manuals section there is a little reservoir for the "wetting agent" to go. On the 1956 version it was in the bottom around the right front corner area. Can't be sure, but it looks like it might be one of those round things in the door on this one. I hope the Calrod unit is ok as I figure that might be hard to find.

Post# 631321 , Reply# 25 10/13/2012 at 15:23 (4,206 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *Even with it's issues...* I am SO excited about getting this unit and will post more once it's safely here to our garage.

Post# 631322 , Reply# 26 10/13/2012 at 15:30 (4,206 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *OH! I forgot the mention the cool coincidence...* About a week ago, Appliguy called and said to check out the manuals section of the group because there was some info on the kind of Hotpoint I wanted posted there. Sure enough I found both the 1956 and 1958 documents. In the 1958 brochure, there was a pink one identical to the one I am buying and......not a week later.......here I am virtually owning the one in the picture. I just love these kind of almost mystic coincidences.

Post# 631336 , Reply# 27 10/13/2012 at 16:17 (4,206 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )
Checkrate/Likes *Hey, 1952 crestwood....* I see in your profile you have a Norge wall oven cooktop set...I sure would love to see a picture of it, As much as I love Norge, I have never seen their built in stuff!!!If you can post a pic, Thanks...Hans

Post# 631453 , Reply# 28 10/14/2012 at 05:40 (4,205 days old) by chris74 ()
Checkrate/Likes *Missing detergent compartment door* Shouldn't be that much of a problem because this dishwasher won't pre-wash, will it? What you should make up your mind about is the thing with the wetting agent. If it leaks during the main wash you won't have dry and sparkling dishes at the end of the cycle 'cause the drying efficiency wouldn't be that high, I believe...

Post# 631472 , Reply# 29 10/14/2012 at 08:14 (4,205 days old) by appnut (TX)
Checkrate/Likes *this dishwasher won't pre-wash, will it?* Yes it does.

Post# 631473 , Reply# 30 10/14/2012 at 08:15 (4,205 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
Checkrate/Likes *The machine provides 2 washes* The machine does a 1 minute shower from the top center of the tank before the drain closes and the First 5 minute wash begins. That is followed by a Second 5 minute wash. It is possible that the one of those gel pacs or some tablet would work in the absence of a working dispenser, but I don't know for sure. This is the least of problems with the machine. Please do not try to operate the motor with the broken impeller. The imbalance in weight between the whole side and the broken side can ruin the motor if it run like this. The rinse agent dispenser is not a mandatory accessory if you have soft water and if it does not work and you have hard water, you can use one of the solid rinse agents. Check with Larry at Modern Parts to see if he has any parts for this machine.

Post# 631513 , Reply# 31 10/14/2012 at 11:30 (4,205 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *Oh, good info, Tomturbomatic! Thanks.* I never thought about the imbalance issue. I won't plug it in or attempt to run it until I get a replacement impeller. I'm so glad you mentioned that since I was thinking of testing it out one day. Once I get this home, and sell off some of my other vintage things to help pay my budget back for this and the trip costs, I will contact Larry as you suggest. I suppose those detergent pack things might work but aren't those formulated for the longer wash cycles of today's machines? As this has the two separate five minute wash cycles, I wonder if the pack would only partially dissolve in the shorter 5 min run, then still be available to "wash" during the first rinse cycle. The more I think on this, the more interesting the questions become. I'd love to read more input from folks on what they think on such a scenario. Since, I'm not going to risk the motor getting whacked on account of that imbalance thing, I will likely start hunting up a replacement dispenser door so as to make it all a moot point. Fortunately the unit won't be pressed into service anytime soon, and will mainly be stored for future use, so I have lots of time to address these issues. However, I will start buying the replacement parts soon as I find them since I don't figure there are all that many parts still available for these. You've likely already found that I posted some cell phone pics of my Norge built ins to your email, Norgeway. When I can get my better camera out to the garage for better pictures of the set, I will post them on the Super forum. Thanks again for all the great input, tech help and support. Robyn

Post# 631706 , Reply# 32 10/15/2012 at 01:12 (4,204 days old) by xpanam (Palm Springs California )
Checkrate/Likes *Water fill* Hey Tomturbomatic. It looks like they change to a side fill at sometime. Look at the photo on the right side of the tub from reply #24? And reply #22, looks like just a cap on top?

Post# 631808 , Reply# 33 10/15/2012 at 10:58 (4,204 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
Checkrate/Likes My dishwasher like this fills from the top. The instruction manual says it fills from the top and I think if we had a good picture of the outside of this machine, you would see the copper tube running to the top center of the tank. I don't know what the square thing is. It was not until HP went to the GE style machine, I think, that they stopped filling from the top. In later years, it was a spray from the front corner, but it was from the top.

Post# 631897 , Reply# 34 10/15/2012 at 18:24 (4,204 days old) by xpanam (Palm Springs California )
Checkrate/Likes I thought all HP-DW Filled from the top too! but look at the picture from reply#24 post. What is the inlet on the right side of the tank for? The one with the two screws?

Post# 631920 , Reply# 35 10/15/2012 at 19:30 (4,204 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *I will try to take pics when I get it home....* of all these question areas and see if they can be answered. I am wondering about all the ones that you guys have brought up myself. I thought the feeder tube for the upper spray nozzle ran up the outside of the unit and connected on the top, outside of the tub. I'm wondering if by '58 they enclosed it between an outer shell and an inner tub shell (?). I'm kinda enjoying this "search for the great whats-it" (as in the movie "Kiss Me Deadly") when it comes to all the little mysteries that the pics I have now don't show. Just comparing this one I have bought to other pics I have collected over the years, I can see some changes between the 56, 57, and 58 models, even though they are basically the same as far as racks, the impeller and general outer appearance. Door Handle styles, placement of the Hotpoint badging, and differences in the upper rack frame design are the things that stand out to me most. For instance the name badge on this one is on the door under the handle, whereas my Aunt's 56 and (I believe) a 57 model had the Hotpoint Dishwasher ID on that wide horizontal vent hood over the door. The placement of the wetting agent dispenser went from the floor of the tub on the 56 models to what appears to be the door on my 58. Saturday is getting closer and I'm getting more excited all the time. By the time I do the 12 hour drive on Saturday it might take me a day to recover enough to take and post the pics, but I'll get on it as soon as I feel human again. :-)

Post# 632010 , Reply# 36 10/16/2012 at 03:06 (4,203 days old) by chris74 ()
Checkrate/Likes *I think the newer gel pacs...* ...are formulated for short cycles at lower temperatures meanwhile. But five minutes is of course a very short period. Solid wetting agent, yes but do one put it in from the start? There is no solid Jet-Dry over here in Germany so I can't tell...

Post# 632047 , Reply# 37 10/16/2012 at 06:31 (4,203 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
Checkrate/Likes There are TWO five minute washes so maybe the little brick of detergent would last through the total of ten minutes. The solid Jet Dry is in a little basket maybe 1.5 inches deep and 1 inch wide that is clipped onto the upper rack.

Post# 632108 , Reply# 38 10/16/2012 at 12:44 (4,203 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *Question for you Tom....* From what I have seen in the below video, the little door I am missing covers the detergent for the second wash and allows the first rinse period to complete. Then through weight imbalance, the door rotates and uncovers the detergent for the second wash. If I were to use these solid detergent packs, and with no door to protect the detergent (meant for the second wash) would there be any undesired result of the intended first wash & rinse periods basically becoming one long wash period, while the second wash & rinse period just being one long rinse? CLICK HERE TO GO TO 1952Crestwood's LINK

Post# 632116 , Reply# 39 10/16/2012 at 13:38 (4,203 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
Checkrate/Likes The cycle is not rinse, wash, wash, rinse. It is spray, wash, wash, rinse, rinse. Like most machines with a cycle that begins with a wash, the part of the dispenser holding detergent for the first wash is uncovered. I don't know how fast the little bricks dissolve, but if they dissolve slowly, one might work for both 5 minute wash periods. But before you deal with that, you need an impeller. You also need to see if the motor is any good. HP dishwashers had shitty motors. I know where two are that have not run in years because the owners got tired of replacing the motors which were annoyingly loud when they did work.

Post# 632317 , Reply# 40 10/17/2012 at 10:49 (4,202 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *Thanks for clarifying that for me Tom.* I was thinking it was Spray, Wash, Rinse, Wash, Rinse. With how you described it, I can now see how those tablets might work out, but of course you are right that the impeller and other things need to be taken care of first. I had no idea that this machine was as inferior as all that with the motors. I'm disappointed in that as I was hoping this was a pretty tough unit. Still and all, at the end of the day, my purpose for this machine was predominately as a sentimental, attractive, built in, dish rack for hand washed dishes, so if it doesn't get restored and fully working, I can't say I'm too let down. What I think I may do now, is keep the 1965 Frigidaire Imperial Dishmobile that I was thinking I would sell if this Hotpoint were functional or could be expected to be lightly restored to become functional. The Dishmobile is a "low mileage" unit, and should do fine for the few times I would want a fully working DW. This info about the Hotpoint motors lack of reliability is helpful to know so thanks again Tom.

Post# 632382 , Reply# 41 10/17/2012 at 18:02 (4,202 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
Checkrate/Likes New, replacement motors might prove more durable, but the originals and their replacements in the 50s and 60s were not durable. Part of the problem might have been the construction of these models. Hotoint hints at it darkly in the Detergent section of the owner's manual: Warning: Do not use soap or any detergent other than those recommended above, as foam or suds may work their way into the motor, causing a motor failure. I think moisture managed to work its way into the motor anyway causing many failures. HPs were fairly good dishwashers. They were the first to offer two washes with fresh detergent in each wash. They were early leaders, but were passed by other manufacturers as time went on. Sorta sad.

Post# 632605 , Reply# 42 10/18/2012 at 14:45 (4,201 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *Good to know that there might be replacements..* that aren't original equipment, leading to a return of the problems. If my motor is bad, I will check into what might work in it's place someday. Thanks again for the helpful info. :-)

Post# 633384 , Reply# 43 10/22/2012 at 04:14 (4,197 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *WE MADE IT!!!!* Just giving a fast update to say that I made the trip up to Ohio and back on Saturday. "Harriet" and I made it home safe and sound. The seller was a real sweet person and very helpful. You really couldn't ask do to business with a nicer guy. I will post some pictures soon, but I'm still recovering from the day that started at 2:30 AM, on the road from 4:30-11 AM, then back on the road again from 2-8:30 PM. About 714 miles round trip. Those last few miles were a challenge to stay awake, but I kept thinking of "Harriet" in back and all the years I'd searched for one like her, so it helped. Pics to come soon and thanks again to all of you who have been so supportive and helpful with information. Robyn

Post# 633387 , Reply# 44 10/22/2012 at 05:19 (4,197 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *Oh, and before I forget....* The seller removed the impeller and ran the unit through all it's cycles. My motor and timer works FLAWLESSLY and it's quiet as can be! I was so excited to see and hear it run. The Calrod unit heated up as it should and even after just a minute, the interior was toasty warm. We didn't have any water connected to it, and so it may still show a leak after so many years. I can now finally clear up the mystery about the "square" on the top. I looked up inside, expecting to see the spray/fill thing and there as nothing but the square indent which creates the raised square bump on top. It was explained to me that in some areas, it was a code requirement that you have an "air gap" (like the fill tube in a toilet tank) to protect the city water systems from a possible back wash of dirty water from the unit. Sure enough, mine came from an area that required that, so I can assume that is why there was no top spray/fill on mine. There it was, plain as day the narrow copper tube that came up from the main inlet valve underneath, ran up the side and curved over a larger diameter pipe which comes down, has a trap then goes into the side wall, coming out low on the right inside wall. I can see how such a set up would be kinda hard to execute from the top. Now that I have gone back over the info I downloaded from the manuals/brochures section, I see that this unit was offered with a normal water supply, or with an air gap system to meet with certain codes. Of course not really knowing much about the mechanics of things, it didn't dawn on me until the seller showed me that mine was the air gap type. Pics to come tomorrow.

Post# 633467 , Reply# 45 10/22/2012 at 16:00 (4,197 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *First pic* Ahhhhh. At last!

Post# 633468 , Reply# 46 10/22/2012 at 16:02 (4,197 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *The Inside Dope....* on the spray inlet situation.

Post# 633469 , Reply# 47 10/22/2012 at 16:06 (4,197 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *The cool air gap thingy....* Might be common knowledge to folks on here but this was a new one on me.

Post# 633479 , Reply# 48 10/22/2012 at 17:00 (4,197 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *First view of the Reversible Roll-R-Rack....* in it's upper position with the bottom hidden behind the frame. All stocked with my Aunt's same melmac dinnerware that I used to hand wash and put into her Hotpoint like this to air dry in the 1970's. (Pardon the burnt/blistered purple serving bowl. It is a "signature" of my late Aunt's often hectic life. Just lets me know that this was part of her original set versus all the replacement pieces I've added to her set over the years.)

Post# 633480 , Reply# 49 10/22/2012 at 17:01 (4,197 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *Rack in the lower position.....* with it's bottom showing below the rack.

Post# 633481 , Reply# 50 10/22/2012 at 17:05 (4,197 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *The colorful swirl I remember from my youth...* I can see where this machine might not be the most efficient at getting everything as clean as later units with more standard racking, spray arms etc......but nothing beats that Hotpoint Swirl when you have colorful dinnerware to rack into it.

Post# 633482 , Reply# 51 10/22/2012 at 17:06 (4,197 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *Top rack full...* Ahhh, the memories! And a look to the future when I someday get this installed in a dream kitchen.

Post# 633483 , Reply# 52 10/22/2012 at 17:09 (4,197 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *Close up of the lighted indicator dial....* looking forward to replacing this with a nice new one and getting a new bulb in behind it.

Post# 633484 , Reply# 53 10/22/2012 at 17:10 (4,197 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *Might not actually add any real strength....* but I really love how extra strong this door design looks with that wall around it.

Post# 633527 , Reply# 54 10/22/2012 at 19:44 (4,197 days old) by turquoisedude (.)
Checkrate/Likes *Fabulous, Dahling!* 'Harriet' looks just grand, Robyn. Congratulations!!! The inside speckled tub looks amazing - I've never seen a dishwasher with an interior like this before. The test loads suit the machine perfectly, too. Thanks for sharing the latest pictures!

Post# 633541 , Reply# 55 10/22/2012 at 20:29 (4,196 days old) by westingman123 ()
Checkrate/Likes *So pretty!* I've got to agree, that colorful swirl in to die for! You've even made me rethink my "no MelMac" position. Harriet is lovely! Waiting with bated breath for the test wash.

Post# 633566 , Reply# 56 10/22/2012 at 22:04 (4,196 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *Thanks TurquoiseDude and Westingman123* You guys are so sweet, and your comments just ramp up my feelings about Miss Harriet. As far as Melmac dinnerware, I grew up with the two sets you see here. Windsor Melmac in the "Rainbow" offering with two place settings each in pink, yellow, blue and white. The various serving pieces for that come one each in those same colors like a yellow lidded sugar bowl, blue divided serving bowl, white cream pitcher, yellow platter etc. My Aunt bought those through Jewel-Tea Company in about 1959 or 60. The other set is Royalon's "Corsage" pattern and that was purchased through an offering in Safeway grocery stores in 1964. That set was pretty comprehensive as it has lilac colored melmac tumblers to match, place mats that match the flowered pattern on the plates, matching glassware that put the flowered pattern on clear glass drinkware etc. I have always loved bright, "happy" colors, so these were always a draw for me. Westingman123, I hope you will find a lovely, colorful set of Melmac for your first set. Some people love it, others hate it, but I would recommend determining how "tough" you need your set to be. I've seen some really thick, heavy pieces that should survive an atomic blast, but they are heavy and a bit clunky. I've also seen some really thin sets that aren't worth bothering with but there are so many beautiful colors and patterns that run the gamut between.

Post# 633625 , Reply# 57 10/23/2012 at 05:02 (4,196 days old) by peteski50 (New York)
Checkrate/Likes *Happy Hotpoint!* Hi Robyn, I am very Happy :) you finally got your dream machine. I hope you are able to get it working one day soon. The MelMac really is the topper. Keep us posted and Best Of Luck with this Dream. Peter

Post# 633674 , Reply# 58 10/23/2012 at 09:43 (4,196 days old) by westingman123 ()
Checkrate/Likes *Hey Robyn* To tell you the truth, my Aunt Mildred had a lovely set of MelMac in turquoise. I accidentally left a piece of it on the gas range, resulting in an unsightly scorch. I really caught it for that one, and at the time swore off MelMac forever. Fast forward 30 years, and my darling Aunt has passed from Alzheimers. Going through the farm cabinets, what do I discover but that very plate? I swear, the woman kept EVERYTHING. At any rate, I really like your pastel set, and now will be "on the hunt." By the way, welcome to the group of alliterative naming! Wanda Westinghouse resides in my kitchen, as you can see by my avatar. Oh, the things we applicance people do! LOL

Post# 634010 , Reply# 59 10/24/2012 at 16:58 (4,195 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *Thanks Peteski50....* I've been going out to the garage as much as I can to stare at it, open the door, roll the racks in and out, etc. I suppose it's still that thing of "I gotta go make sure I'm not dreaming and that I really do have my dream machine out there." LOL. Westingman123, scorch marks and melmac....almost goes together like bank and money, doesn't it? Being a big turquoise fan, I bet I'd have loved your Aunt Mildred's set. Over the years I've gathered more sets of melmac than anyone person should ever admit to. It's usually because there is turquoise in it somewhere, or I like the shape or the pattern etc. I've been into that naming of "inanimate objects" all my life. We name our cars (55 Olds named "Elmer", former 59 Buick named "Lana" etc). and now it's crossed over into my appliances. I love the name "Wanda Westinghouse"!! I doubt anyone will fault us for naming them, but I bet I'd get some odd glances when people see me walk by and give our cars or my 50's kitchen goodies a loving pat as well as a loving comment as I walk by. LOL.

Post# 634232 , Reply# 60 10/25/2012 at 15:08 (4,194 days old) by xpanam (Palm Springs California )
Checkrate/Likes Thanks for the pictures 1952crestwood! Iam glad you were able to get this,and solving the mystery about the top fill. Keep us updated on the progress.

Post# 634255 , Reply# 61 10/25/2012 at 15:55 (4,194 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )
Checkrate/Likes *Wonderful!!!* Simply great!

Post# 634390 , Reply# 62 10/26/2012 at 01:41 (4,193 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()
Checkrate/Likes *Hi xpanam!* You realize that without you finding the Craigslisting on this......I would not be in Hotpoint Heaven. Hope you are blessed with every single vintage appliance your heart has desired for as a reward for your good deed! Hi, Norgeway. I have not forgotten about the better pics of my cooktop & wall oven you requested. Should have those emailed to you very soon. Robyn

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