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Bewitching stove! Westinghouse Continental Range - $300 (Madison Place)
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Post# 632678   10/18/2012 at 19:26 (4,178 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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Well, can it cook via telepathy? $300

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Post# 632753 , Reply# 1   10/18/2012 at 22:48 (4,178 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Isnt it amazing!

How people advertise without any research, as far as I know a Westinghouse was NEVER on Bewitched!!! I like these very much though!!

Post# 632770 , Reply# 2   10/19/2012 at 00:21 (4,178 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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I know, I don't remember this on Bewitched, but then I don't remember much anymore, that far gone. :-) lol!

Post# 632780 , Reply# 3   10/19/2012 at 02:25 (4,178 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Doesn't the reflection on the oven door look like Samantha Stevens?




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Post# 632782 , Reply# 4   10/19/2012 at 02:39 (4,178 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        
cousins

Heres the Wards version, i posted from a vintage MW catalogue,  


Post# 632785 , Reply# 5   10/19/2012 at 02:48 (4,178 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

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Frigidaire had a version of this too. I'm beginning to smell WCI.

Post# 632799 , Reply# 6   10/19/2012 at 06:52 (4,178 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
No WCI...

About all companies had a high oven range in the 60s, Frigidaire was first with the Flair in 1960,Monarch had the Modernique, Hotpoint had the Hallmark, GE the Americana,Tappan the Fabulous 400, Westinghouse the Continental,Philco had one called the Galaxie, Roper also had one but I cant remember what they called it, all these were way before WCI took over everything.

Post# 632841 , Reply# 7   10/19/2012 at 12:21 (4,177 days old) by Davey7 (Chicago)        

Didn't O'Keefe & Merritt have one too?

Aunt Clara must be posting...


Post# 632853 , Reply# 8   10/19/2012 at 14:29 (4,177 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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I've seen Westinghouse Continental side by side 'fridges, but didn't know they marketed a range with the same name.


Post# 632868 , Reply# 9   10/19/2012 at 16:17 (4,177 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

The Roper brand was "Charm".

Post# 632947 , Reply# 10   10/19/2012 at 23:35 (4,177 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

In the early 60's my parents traded their 1955 Kenmore gas stove for a gas Tappan 400 (I believe it was Tappan). She liked it a lot. But I noticed it was way more flimsy than the Kenmore it replaced. All the metal seemed to be very lightweight on it. Whenever you opened the upper oven door the entire thing would rattle. They kept it until 1979 or so and replaced it with another Kenmore conventional gas range/stove.

But they sure do look dated these days.


Post# 632991 , Reply# 11   10/20/2012 at 09:11 (4,177 days old) by stainfighter (Columbia, SC)        
and...Modern Maid

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and then there was a spin on the brand Modern Maid- where there was a full-size D&M design dishwasher under the burners, all four burners were exposed unlike the other brands that hid the back two... The one we had in our condo - cleaned dishes very well but was LOUD/hurricane-like

Post# 633139 , Reply# 12   10/20/2012 at 22:37 (4,176 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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Ultamatic / Norgeway: I love these stoves and now wonder which is the best made?( Frigidaire?)

Ok, you thought you saw Samantha Stevens, but I think the photos I am about to post will reveal some other revelations. (nose twitch please)


Post# 633141 , Reply# 13   10/20/2012 at 22:41 (4,176 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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I think she had a couple different kitchens, as she had it updated for the later shows...

Post# 633144 , Reply# 14   10/20/2012 at 22:44 (4,176 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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Just some additional details of the stove used

Post# 633192 , Reply# 15   10/21/2012 at 07:01 (4,176 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Best Stove...!

Well, that IS a matter of opinion, here is mine,and some who really are experts, and have more experience than I do.."Hi John! LOL", will disagree , but I love a Frigidaire, I think those old big Radiantube units are un beatable, Also Westinghouse was right up there too,I also love the baking of a Norge, it really is the finest oven I have ever used overall, but, Norges suffer from rust problems, GE and Hotpoint made good products, but the oven doors are the worst to get out of alignment, and those thin Calrod units ,while very fast, always seem cheap to me, My Aunt who had first a Norge "1947, and then a Frigidaire, "1965",installed GE appliances in 1977 in their new house, I will never forget her comment after a few weeks.." I hate that stove, those burners rattle when you walk across the floor!!"Now I must admit, if you are used to a GE or to Gas, you WONT like a Frigidaire or a Westinghouse, those bigger units are slower to heat and are slower to cool off, but they are also SO much better if you use heavy pots,and excell in canning,also in my opinion, a Radiantube unit or Corox unit, on average, will outlast 2 or three GE Calrods!

Post# 633198 , Reply# 16   10/21/2012 at 07:46 (4,176 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
High Oven Stoves...

Although the Flair is my choice for the surface units, the best overall would be the Hallmark by Hotpoint! Unless you have ever seen one you wont believe how advanced it really was....For instance, the oven was lined with removable teflon coated panels....just take then to the sink, wash and presto...your oven was clean,also they had an exhaust system that no one has equalled yet!If anyone could post a picture of a Hallmark it would show some of the features.

Post# 633221 , Reply# 17   10/21/2012 at 10:17 (4,176 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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Norgeway - Opinions are what makes aw.org such a great place to get engaged. I like the teflon panel ideas, but wonder how today's improved teflon or non-stick compares to the old. Maybe they made it better than the pots and pans we owned once, which just deteriorated.

I found a link to an eBay sale of the Hotpoint.

We had similar experiences with GE, so your Aunt's 1977 GE appliances reminded me of our 2005 purchased TOL gas cooktop, Arctica side by side refrigerator, and FL washer/dryers problems in the first 1-3 years of use. "Imagination at Work" maybe- but the reality is..execution at play. I hear "No More GE products!" now ; they used to be great, I guess, in the 60's.

Did you look at different Flair ovens before choosing yours? I mean, weren't there different sizes and year models of that stove? Any problems with yours since owning it? I came across a Flair that, I'm almost sure, was wider than the 30" and had some improved styling(maybe the later models were better looking?).




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Post# 633292 , Reply# 18   10/21/2012 at 16:56 (4,175 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
I Dont...

Have a Flair, but I have owned several in the past, I never have used one.I have always had regular ranges or built ins.

Post# 633337 , Reply# 19   10/21/2012 at 20:28 (4,175 days old) by kevin313 (Detroit, Michigan)        

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Looks like Samantha changed stoves as often as she changed Darrins!! (Dick York and Dick Sargent....I always liked York better!).

I have to agree with Hans about the radiant tubes - I know people are critical because they are a single tube unit, and they don't heat up as fast as Calrods or Corax, but I really like the way they cook - very even and consistent heating, I've found.

The appeal of the "high oven" is understandable, but it's not something I ever longed to have. I guess they felt more "built in" or custom, but I don't want that much heat so close to my face when I'm baking and cooking. Just the same, some of these sure are pretty!


Post# 633355 , Reply# 20   10/21/2012 at 22:11 (4,175 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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As much as I love those Flairs wouldn't the surface units be somewhat "in the way" when they're jutting out further than the adjacent cabinetry on either side.

Post# 633361 , Reply# 21   10/21/2012 at 23:30 (4,175 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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Calrods and Corax vs. "single tube"...?? that's something I'll need to google.

From what I read, they made the Flair line for 10 years ( 1960-1970), some came in other colors like turquoise and pink.

While the cooking surface is a bit heavy and clunky, that upper half is still elegant and pretty even if we might lose a few eyelashes with the oven heat. :-)

they sure have a following, including the link below and www.danlangdon.com/flair.htm...



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Post# 633362 , Reply# 22   10/21/2012 at 23:38 (4,175 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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Petek: How you cook would dictate if you could use these comfortably or not. I just like the retro look, but might find the pullout awkward if moving around alot from left counter to right. Maybe that's part of the reason why the pullout cooktop was phased out for the Flair Twin-30 Ranges(yellow stove ad)?

Post# 633363 , Reply# 23   10/21/2012 at 23:44 (4,175 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        
Flair oven resource page

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For anyone who doesn't have this link, here's a link to where you can download an owner's manual and Frigidaire Service Tech-Talk Manual both FREE..and there's more resources for parts, etc. there, as well. If this is redundant info here on AW.org, oh well - hope it helps someone.

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Post# 633717 , Reply# 24   10/23/2012 at 13:30 (4,173 days old) by Davey7 (Chicago)        

I'm picturing Uncle Arthur's disembodied head saying "don't worry, Sammy, we're all electric"!

And be sure to watch the Paul Lynde Halloween Special with Florence Henderson and Margaret Hamilton!


Post# 633729 , Reply# 25   10/23/2012 at 14:22 (4,173 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington NC)        

Actually, the Flair range AND the Flair twin range were marketed together in the 60's. I have 4 years of Frigidaire range booklets where they were both offered. The Flair twin was discountinued before the Flair.

Post# 634089 , Reply# 26   10/24/2012 at 23:27 (4,172 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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Davey7: Halloween special with Paul Lynde? will look for it...

Lately, the Flair ovens are coming up on Craigslist - so, how about 'nother in YELLOW?


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Post# 634118 , Reply# 27   10/25/2012 at 03:24 (4,172 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

I always thought the the eyelevel ovens would be dangerous,  (think thankgiving turkeys),   not only do you have to reach over the cooktop if pulled out. But to lift and pull out  a heavy bulky item, is not the safest task for people that are shorter or elderly. What made me think of this was the bracket they now give you with every stove so it wont tip over if you pull out a heavy rack, or someone would stand on or fall on the oven door.  ( we were deprived) our mom never let us stand on the open oven door :-).  alr 


Post# 634135 , Reply# 28   10/25/2012 at 07:08 (4,172 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
The flimsy...

JUNK made today needs the anti tip device, a Flair dosent because it weighs a ton!!

Post# 634150 , Reply# 29   10/25/2012 at 08:37 (4,172 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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Well, that Westinghouse D/O U/L hopefully is worth its weight in tonnage!

Amazing how it never caught on as much as General Electric ranges (or even other Westinghouse appliances) yet it was claimed to be a better range than some of its competition in some respects...

Now about that lower oven light switch: Does it toggle back 'n' forth or up 'n' down?

A Sears Kenmore drop-in range (slide in?) had a button you pulled out to turn on & pushed back in to shut off, so does this one, or would it be a simple push-button?

That part of the pic is not easy to see! Nice how clean as if unused this stove also seems to be...!


-- Dave


Post# 634461 , Reply# 30   10/26/2012 at 10:43 (4,171 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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OK, I found a way to answer my own question, not to mention a way to view a couple even better pics of the Westinghouse U/L D/O Continental stove...

Hope that it's OK to post this link:


-- Dave


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Post# 634556 , Reply# 31   10/26/2012 at 18:57 (4,170 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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DaveAMKrayoGuy: That link shows a nice shot of his 1967 Avocado Frigidaire Flair located in the corner. Someone said these stoves were not exactly the safest, as reaching over the burners to pull down a roast of heavy dish wouldn't work for the elderly or some younger chefs(kids). His oven opens from the right(left hinge) and is, I think, in a good location. I agree with his comments -he thinks they're works of art...and many of the appliances of the early to mid century seemed to have much better styling and construction (and colors!)..than after 1970. To me, this stove is good for a main floor kitchen, but I like that he chose to use it in the basement and has a matching refrigerator - BUT WHERES THE PHOTO of it? :^)



Post# 634561 , Reply# 32   10/26/2012 at 19:50 (4,170 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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Hans I totally agree about the Hotpoint Hallmark ranges being the best most advanced hi-oven ranges. I have a 40" model at the warehouse and the 30" here at the home collection with the axillary full sized lower oven, all four ovens have the removable Teflon panels.

 

But as you predicted I will take the thinner GE-HP Calrod elements over the Frigidaire mono-tube elements any day for any type of surface cooking. The Frigidaire Flair ranges themselves were well made mechanically but had far more problems with controls, clocks, and the wiring itself.


Post# 634573 , Reply# 33   10/26/2012 at 20:41 (4,170 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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Combo52 : well, if that's true about the Flairs - I wonder how the Flair owners feel about their ovens - the ones who have owned and used them for years...what problems consistent with what you said, have they wrestled with? :-) It's good info - will keep it in mind, when I go buying, someday, after this present stay over ends.




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